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Volkswagen Jetta 2005 and earlier



  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    I ask myself the same question (even though I have never had hoses come out of my car). But I don't think that was the point of the post. Still, I am trying to figure out the same thing.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Why bother installing the sway bar on the Jetta? You are only going to get rid of the car. And wouldn't it be total irony if you got a lemon G35? That wouldn't be ha-ha funny, but it would be funny though (if you know what I mean).

    And since you hate the car so much anyway, why don't you just run if off a pier or something?
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    I've worked on cooling systems many times. If you don't put the clamps back on, one of three things might happen.

    #1, it will slowly leak. You will smell this and see steam from the coolant evaporating on the hot radiator.

    #2, it won't leak at all.

    #3, it will blow the hose off and you will definately smell it and see it right away.

    Either way, you should notice this before any damage occurs.

    My aunt's brand new Audi A4 needed new heater hoses at 180 miles becauase of faulty clamps that were too tight and ripped holes in the hose.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    Because I'm still looking at another 5-6 months minimum with the Jetta, so why not enjoy it? $225 clams on a 28mm Neuspeed sway bar seems like a small price to pay when I'm carving down the twisty, fun roads of north county.
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    Since you're leasing the car, are you taking the sway bar off after you turn in the Jetta? I've never looked at leasing before and was just curious what happens in a case like that....or say you added air intake for example.
  • sarah233sarah233 Posts: 161
    my first oil change is coming up. should i take it to the dealer, or will any place be OK??
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    I can't see returning the car at the end of the lease. I'll in all likelihood sell it long before then but should my simple mods make me love it and I hold onto the car, I'll definitely sell it outright at lease end (unless it's worth less money than my residual!).
  • justinjustin Posts: 1,918
    i am no mechanic, but, the first time we had a cold morning that fall, i was driving to work, and the car started smoking. the temp guage went way up, and yes, there was green liquid all inside the engine. and yes, i could smell it burning, but it all happened in a matter of seconds. the dealer said that since that was the first time i had the heater on, it had something to do with it. they showed me what they installed, the little clamp thingy literally is no bigger than a bottle cap. because it was missing this thing, it allowed something to happen that shouldn't have happened. it was 96, don't really remember, but the dealer was fairly amused that a car could get delivered without engine parts installed.

    taking my jetta in tomorrow for the 5k service at VW. i am at 5150. went over.
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    That's very strange that it happened in a matter of seconds. It should take a while without coolant for the temp gauge to budge. I've never heard of something like that happening instantaneously. When you warm your car up in the morning, your engine is basically running without coolant because the thermostat is closed. That is how your car heats up. It doesn't make any sense for you to lose coolant and have the temp gauge shoot up right away. I'm calling B.S. on either you or the dealer who told you that.
  • apatiaapatia Posts: 36
    Do you want to know my first thought when I opened this forum?...

    "oops, did I click on the protege link by accident?"

    At any rate, I WAS considering getting a jetta, but now I don't know. This is the first forum I've seen were most seem to >dislike< the topic vehicle. I think I'd see more love in a pinto forum (if edmunds had one).
  • AnakinAnakin Posts: 410
    I can pipe up and say that I've thoroughly enjoyed my Jetta since last September. I have the 1.8T with Tiptronic. I have had no problems at all.

    One thing you have to consider is that in a message forum like this, you'll hear a lot of complaints because people come to message boards to talk about their problems. Most people don't come to message boards to talk about their car operating properly unless they're car nuts. :^)
  • xudxud Posts: 32
    My advice to you is: test drive all cars you are interested, including the Jetta, then you make a decision. Don't be to much influenced by the negative opinions in the forum or the Consumer Report reliability ratings. Buy the car that you like. For the Jetta the reliability is not a big concern for 2001 or newer models since it is improved and is now rated average - to me it's acceptable.

    I learned my lesson for paying too much attention to CR and other people's opinion. In 2000 I was about to buy a new car, at first Jetta was on top of my list, but my friends (and CR) persuaded
    me to buy an Honda Accord EX automatic. It was a big mistake . I did not like the Honda at all. It's slow and boring, and its seats were uncomfortable. I ended up selling the Honda within a year and bought a 2002 Jetta 1.8T 5 speed. What a difference! I enjoy driving
    it. So far my Jetta (now 6 month old) is problem-free except a couple of rattles - but they've been fixed under warranty.
  • jpcjpc Posts: 10
    I currently have about 80K on my 98 Jetta TDI and have had only one issue with the passenger electric window motor going (I hear this is a common problem with Jetta's.) All my older diesels were retired at about 180K-190K (83 Rabbit, 84 Jetta and 89 Jetta) more due to poor body conditions (i.e. rust) than anything engine related. The TDI's are great engines but the folks over in Europe have it even better. Their TDI motors run from 110hp up to 160hp(6cyl). I'd love to get one of those 6cyl TDI motors. Have you looked at getting any used TDI's ?
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    One of my bartenders at TGI Friday's was asking me about Vee Jetta's. He is "believe or not" selling his 99 Honda Passport, to his step-dad(he is sick of the bi-weekly $35.00 gas fill-ups). I believe, he is interested in the turbo sedan. His question was, where in Germany is the turbo Jetta manufactured? BTW, he loves the Jetta styling, however which variation of the Jetta gets the best gas mileage? What grade fuel do they use?

  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    They aren't made in Germany. The TDI gets the best gas mileage, followed by the 2.0L and 1.8T which get similiar mileage. The 1.8T and VR6 use premium fuel.
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    What? Well where in North America are the Turbo Sedan's manufactured?
  • 8u6hfd8u6hfd Posts: 1,391
    Engine is made in Germany

    Point of Assembly, it can be Germany, Mexico, or Brazil. My Golf was assembled in Brazil.
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    Now I'm confused is the Jetta Sedan(turbo) manufactured in one of three places? I'll tell the kid to go see the dealer, lol? This board is to confusing...
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,862
    All Jetta Sedans are assembled in Mexico. The turbo? The TDI is a turbo and the 1.8 is a turbo, which one are you asking about? All Jetta Wagons are assembled in Germany. All of the VR6, 1.8 and TDI motors are sourced from Germany and the some of the 2.0 motors are sourced from Mexico. German assembly or Mexican will not assure you that you will not have MAF, window, or rattle and creak problems, so why worry about the assembly location. The quality and expertise of your local dealer is what needs to be investigated. VW has some very good dealers and some very, very, terrible dealers. The biggest problem VWoA has right now is the lack of consistency of the dealer network.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    Just to add to the confusion, the manual tranny for the North American Jettas comes from Brazil.

    All non-wagon Jettas come from Mexico. In my opinion the best products from Mexico are food-based. But that's just me. As you've read elsewhere in here, the Jetta is now considered average for reliability. Wahoo. That's impressive. Not.
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    Ditto that. I love carne asada burritos (even if they are messy and fall apart). Yum!
  • sarah233sarah233 Posts: 161
    that protegextwo is feigning confusion to make fun of us jetta folks?

    "His question was, where in Germany is the turbo Jetta manufactured? BTW, he loves the Jetta styling, however which variation of the Jetta gets the best gas mileage? What grade fuel do they use?"

    Just seems like the two biggest issues recently discussed on this board were where the cars are manufactured and what grade fuel they use. I think someone is trying to cause trouble... ( :
  • protege_fanprotege_fan Posts: 2,405
    It may be a legitimate question. To keep this on topic, I recently got to see my g/f's cousin's Jetta 2.0. Very nice interior! I didn't get to take it out for a spin though. I like the folding key idea...I've had my share of pockets wrecked from my keys ripping thru them.
  • 8u6hfd8u6hfd Posts: 1,391
    To answer protegextwo's question on which gets the best gas mileage: TDI will by far, gives you the best gas mileage.

    Grades of fuel:
    2.0L: 87 octane
    TDI: Diesel No. 2
    1.8T & VR6: 91 octane for optimum performance.

    Point of Assembly: See window sticker.

    Top Fuel cars: just wondering, do they even run water as a means of a coolant?
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    No, they don't run water because even a 6000 hp motor will not overheat in a matter of seconds. When's the last time you saw a top fuel car with a radiator?
  • 8u6hfd8u6hfd Posts: 1,391
    I don't watch top fuel

    I watch WRC on the Speed Channel
  • newcar31newcar31 Posts: 3,711
    I don't really follow top fuel either, but I have seen them at Brainerd International a couple times. Even if you don't like drag racing, it's worth it to see them in person at least once. They are the loudest thing you will probably ever hear in your life. They are violently loud.
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Posts: 2,698
    Does anyone who has purchased a 2002 GLS 1.8T have a copy of the invoice and if you do, what is the base invoice price for the car? Dealers in Mass are quoting a base invoice of $18,719 for the manual and Edmund's is at $18,353 - a difference of $366. I think that base invoice includes Mass emissions of $99, so the remaining difference is $267. Is there typically a regional advertising and marketing fee (MACO) on the Jetta models? I am thinking that may explain the $267 difference...

    Other than that, we are getting a price of $200 over invoice - how much have recent owners paid and in what region do you live? Thank you in advance for your help.
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Posts: 1,265
    Thanks to all whom responded in a helpful fashion. I assumed, all Jets were manufactured in Germany. Duh, bad? My bartender, Jason K. at TGI Friday's is 86ing his Honda Passport(a gas piggie). We had a cool conversation about the 2002 Jet sedans. He likes the Jetta and is going to our local Vee Dub dealership Sunday to check out available stock and prices. I told him, that I corresponded thru the intra-net with some real Jet life owners. BTW, I believe he is shopping for the 1.8l turbo sedan 4-cl, however maybe it was the TDI? Is that a diesel? He is the one, who told me that all Jets were manufactured in South America? Geeze, I was wrong. My bad, for asking my Jetta questions here. In the future, I'll e-mail my good friend Vocus (Paul), directly. My opinion only, this is truly, one very nasty board.

    -Larry Kline
  • vwguildvwguild Posts: 1,620
    The difference is $117.00...Port Prep = $25.00,
    FloorPlan INTEREST Reserve = $92.00 and probably
    $150.00 for a Regional Ad fee...They are accurate,
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