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2000-2011 Chevrolet Malibu

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  • wpbharrywpbharry Posts: 399
    Swamped with work stuff.

    Had no idea this week would be this busy.

    I DO apologize.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    rwisem: Thanks for the great review. Do tell more about those manual automatic AC controls, though!

    harry: It's okay man. We were just afeared your review had been axed, or we all missed it! :)
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Great post, thanks for taking the time.

    Still no 04 at the local dealer. The only 04s they have are Cavaliers. Lot is actually 1/2 empty which is unusual. They must be expecting a big load of 2004s any day one would think as there is virtually nothing to sell?
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    Well, either that or someone is planning on going out of business!!
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    4 wheel discs on the Impala

    I don't recall seeing in the (US) congressional register the bill that was passed which would actually force chevy to do that....usually that's what it takes.

    you know what, if they did that on their own 'accord' (no PUN intended) then I commend them for doing that. Good move, I say.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    Sigh, Reg.

    My 2000 Impala has 4 wheel discs.

    Thanks for playing, though.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    LS always had them. All models do now. Good move IMO though rear drums can be done fine.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    This is post 2500!

    YAY!

    Malibu!

    Waiting for the Maxx!
  • Just returned from a 14 hour trip in my 99 Bu(averaged 32 MPG, if you care to know), and everything was fine, but the seats are not very comfortable - I had to wiggle a lot and changed the seat position quite a few times. In the city driving it's not that noticeable, but during a long trip it gets to you. Oh well
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    which is why its important for even sedans to be 'entertaining' and offer a higher 'driving experience'.
  • ehaaseehaase Posts: 328
    Last week, johnclineii questioned my posting here because I was closed minded on the Malibu (which I am not because I would certainly consider the car at the right price). I stated that people willing to wait could get a well equipped V6 Malibu for around $16,000 by next summer instead of buying one now. Johnclineii said that only the 2004 Malibus selling for $16,000 will be used ones.

    Well, a local dealer is already advertising a 2004 Malibu LS V6 for $18,995 - roughly $3,000 off the sticker price. If they're already discounting the cars like this, I am certain that I was correct in saying that well equipped Malibu V6's will be available at around $16,000 by next summer.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    ... to the more appropriate 2004 Chevrolet Malibu vs. Alternatives discussion.

    Please keep in mind that this is a dedicated discussion to a single vehicle. The discussion I just linked was specifically created for the type of messages I just moved.

    Please also note that moving messages is an extremely time consuming and difficult process. I will not continue to do so; instead I will remove messages that do not belong here.

    So please stop and think before you post. If you want your message to survive and if it involves other vehicles besides the Malibu, put it in the proper discussion.

    Thanks.
  • wpbharrywpbharry Posts: 399
    Hey all, thought I'd let you know that next week on MotorWeek, they'll be testing the '04 Malibu.

    Should be interesting.

    We have 3 PBS stations in WPB; sure many of you have more. They keep flip-flopping the time that it's on and just saw it at 6:30 PM EDT.

    Harry
  • rwisemrwisem Posts: 96
    Here is the control panel. I hate it when the auto system uses fan speeds and airflow settings I would prefer to change. On the new Malibu these can easily be adjusted manually with two easy to grasp knobs. Bottom left position is full automatic on each. We love this flexibility.

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  • all of your pics compare the behinds, and the behind is the saddest looking part of the classic Bu. How about comparing the fronts! I bet my cutie's face beats your little froggy!!! ;-)

    And what is the color of the rear turn signal in 04 Bu? It's not RED by any chance, is it?
  • logic1logic1 Posts: 2,433
    One thing immediately obvious is how tightly the new 'Bu pieces fit together.
  • The current issue of Car and Driver has a flattering review of the new 'Bu. In a nutshell, they said it was well put together, handled competently and provided above average performance and fuel economy.

    Their only two concerns were about the styling and the ability of the car to compete with the reputations of the Camcordes.
  • logic1logic1 Posts: 2,433
    did not have C&D on the shelves this weekend. I hope it shows up soon.

    You see the article as positive. In the Malibu comparo sight, Reg and Venus suggest it buries the 'Bu.

    These magazine distributors have to move quicker.
  • Reg and Venus have a different opinion. For the most part, the article was positive.

    Of course, the Car and Driver staff will fly off the deep end every time they see a pushrod engine or an exposed screw. I think the crude (on paper) drivetrain tainted their objectivity.

    Logic - wait until you see the Prius ad. The placement is incredibly annoying.
  • tgp1810tgp1810 Posts: 112
    I was up at the dealer on Saturday looking at the new 'Bu (he had 12 in stock). I've liked this car from day one but I must say that it looks 10 times better in person than what it does in the pictures. rwisem, would you mind posting some pictures (int and ext) of your 'Bu at night? I'm curious to see what the IP looks like.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    All I see is a bunch of red X's! Must have taken the "or nothing" route! :)
  • deminindeminin Posts: 214
    We drove past the local dealer yesterday, and they had a new LT on the lot. It was gold with the light cream leather interior, same as out '03 LS. First impression is quite positive. The car looks much better in person than in pictures I've seen. The side sculptering actually looked quite good in this color..I suspect the lighter colors will be the better sellers. The perfed seat panels are probably a good idea..ours can get kind of sticky on a hot day. I didn't see any LH cup holder on the dash...that's a shame..I've kind of gotten used to having a cup of coffee close at hand on a longer drive. The sticker price was $23.5K, and they had a note on the rear view mirror for $2K rebate or 0% financing. This car looks quite good, and if it shows anywhere near the reliability we have enjoyed on our '03..over 10K miles now with Zero problems...it may well be a car to pull some sales back from Japan/Europe.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    I thought the review was really fair, not overly "kind" as some have said. An interesting analysis of the Malibu. (Even though, as a Camry fan, it is INCREDIBLY frustrating that the auto mags refuse to recognize that the Camry's V6 HAS NOT been the 192hp version since Feb of this year. And sorry, but the 2004 3.3L V6 will smoke the 'Bu).

    ~alpha
  • Alpha - the C&D article was fair and, taken in its entirety, flattering. There were more positive comments contained in the article than there were negative ones. And, in my opinion, the negative comments were for mostly minor issues.

    Is it better than a Camry, Accord or Altima? No. Is it better than everything else in that class? Yes. Once the out-the-door cost is considered the Malibu, from a value perspective, may actually take third place from the Altima.
  • wpbharrywpbharry Posts: 399
    Am STILL overwhelmed with problems (appliance gremlins for one thing) and other work things.

    Not complaining to ANYONE, but for a bit of relaxation, I just spent FOUR HOURS reading through all of the posts in the 4 Malibu discussions and in Pontiac GP SINCE 10/1!!! If I were retired, fine, but as I mentioned to a missing-in-action member earlier today, I can't do this that much anymore. The info (well, most of it) is great, but a bit overwhelming.

    As far as my long (and integrated) review, still on the hard drive (well, the 2/3ds I got through, but to meet appropriate TOS standards, what I have requires editing, and I don't have the time for that these days).

    On a more postive note, MOST of the info that was going into the review is already here among the various posts by myself and others. So, I don't feel THAT guilty.

    A few issues about the new Malibu that I need to mention before getting out of here:
    1. I admit that I probably was wrong about the tilt wheel lever, since I never use it on my car, and can't remember the last time I had to readjust it from someone else's use of it.
    2.(hit enter without being done, d'oh) Despite raving about the step-up in interior quality, I was not so impressed with the sound of the door slam quality. Either the car I drove is a bad example (but no squeaks or rattles, as I mentioned), or mine is unusually tight, but nevertheless, it wasn't impressive.
    3. AND NOW THE BIG GRIPE THAT NO ONE HAS MENTIONED (of those that have driven it, and I can't believe it, and it's not so good). You get in, start the engine, foot on the brake, and then what? Folks like me with floor-shift automatics are in for a shock. NO, you don't press the +/- button to shift out of park (Chevy's gonna have a BIG headache over this one; +/- shouldn't be where it is; +/- only works in "L". So, how do you get from "P" to "L", or from "P" to anywhere? I REALLY felt stupid (had I been alone, would've had to call Roadside Asssistance or OnStar). Even with my height, I totally missed this. You can't see this in pix, but there's a fairly large button on the dash side of the shift lever, in the center, that does what the side button used to. I CAN'T believe that one. Obviously, if you own the car, no biggie, but heaven help anyone unfamiliar with it that drives it. Uh oh.

    Later, all.
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    i wouldn't call the C/D review flattering. I would call it 'pleased with the progress it made but its still not there'. Basically they are saying its worthy of consideration now and somewhere in the pack, but you wee they also mentioned how they will need to continue the big bribe.

    Look at the bright side, at least it wasn't another Ion debacle.

    I think for 2004 its a good showing to get chevy back in as an option you can defend, but when 2007 let's hope they come out with another new iteration and don't wait till 2011 for the next new Bu.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    WHICH big bribe are you talking bout:

    *cash back to buyers

    *cash back to dealers and other incentives

    *cash to, er--make that huge amounts of advertising in buff books and wonderful trips for the writers, editors and publishers thereof?

    People talk about not trusting Consumer Reports, but to their credit I have never heard of CR accepting such things. That doesn't mean they know snot about cars, just that they haven't been boughten and paid for...
  • venus537venus537 Posts: 1,443
    i'm nit picking here, but i would say C/D doubts the malibu will be able to compete with the Camcordes on more than just their reputations.
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