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Perhaps Edmunds should consider this weighty question when screening future road testers. What has Edmunds purchased and employed for its readers?
Ms. Richerns' bio (posted at http://www.edmunds.com/help/about/editors.html) speaks for itself: "After graduating from a college in Memphis, Erin... came to California to pursue delusions of fame and grandeur... Eight months later, while still waiting to be noticed, she happened upon an ad for an Editorial Assistant who could drive a manual and eagerly threw together a cover letter full of sweet nothings and somehow landed the job... Erin readily admits that her background is not automotive in the least -- her parents owned a Fiat and a Pinto concurrently in the late 1970s and she probably paid too much for the aged Camry. But she reads and drives everyday and drags just enough of her job home each night to sicken her partner. Besides vehicles, her interests tend toward books, cake, fragmented films and vegetables.
Erin drives a 1995 Nissan 240SX equipped with an automatic transmission."
Stunning. Doesn't take an A-student to see the irony.
Also noteworthy... Memphis is one of the country's great blues & bbq towns, and this one prefers movies, cakes and veggies. Oh-KAY...
The power, reach, and "credibility" of the media is staggering.
Aim higher, Edmunds. You underestimate your C-student readers.
I write in disgust at the recent Erin Richerns review, and clearly inaccurate, biased Road Test on the 2002 Saab Aero. In brief, I believe the article to be full of factual inaccuracies, comments that would indicate that the reviewer hasn't actually tested the car in reality and tactical omissions that make one wonder at the credibility of Edmunds car reviewers. One wonders whether the article was posted by Edmunds as response to an allegation made on the very active Saabnet forum:-
"A while ago someone from the Edmunds boards came here and posted a negative message about the 9-5 and then started to post negative replies using different names. I caught the IP in the logs and when I brought it up to the Edmunds admin over there, they quickly suppressed the fact - didn't want anyone to know about it. "
Regardless, my comments about the review: http://www.edmunds.com/reviews/roadtests/roadtest/64475/article.htmlare shown below.
>Saab hasn't enjoyed a significant increase in sales over the last decade
Errmm, sorry, but I think Saab would have something to say about that!
>As always, though, numbers are only part of the story: if you're a turbo fan, you'll probably like the Aero's engine — it feels and sounds great above 2,000 rpm, and even better above 4,000 rpm, and it revs more smoothly than most high-pressure turbos.
Probably revs more smoothly than all high pressure turbos! Has your reviewer understood the concept of twin balancer shafts?
>But if you merely want a fast luxury car for $30,000 to $40,000, we think you'll prefer the more even power delivery of a six-cylinder engine.
Doubt it - show me a V6 (*at the same price*) that has a smoother engine!?
>You can get a V6 in the 9-5 Arc (albeit with a light-pressure turbocharger attached to it), but the G35, TL Type-S and 330i (not to mention the Audi A4, I35/Maxima and Chrysler 300M) all provide substantially more naturally aspirated power than the Arc for less money — in some cases, far less.
The v6 is not the engine to go for in the Saab 9-5 - the Aero engine offers more of everything - Torque AND Power - why didn't they mention that?. Guess your reviewer didn't do much research before writing this article. Can your reviewer use a Browser? Try www.saabnet.com .......
>Take the Aero out on public roads, and you'll enjoy perhaps the most refined suspension ever offered by Saab. In the larger context of entry-luxury sedans, however, it's nothing special.
Has your reviewer actually tried anything else? The above (it's nothing special) comment suggests not....
> If this is the way you drive most of time, the Aero will certainly suffice, but you could save yourself some money by going with the less sporting Linear model.
LOL - credibility meltdown. The Aero has SPORTS suspension! It will "suffice"? - get real - how about an unbiased road test Edmunds!?
>In spite of Saab's efforts to position the 9-5 Aero as an athletic entry-luxury car (since its introduction for the 2000 model year), we still wouldn't define it as such, even with the 2002 model's suspension upgrades — stiffer springs, retuned shock absorbers and thicker antiroll bars. When we pushed our test car into tight curves, we noted excessive body roll, as well as a strong predisposition toward understeer when exiting turns.
Guess Edmunds have a different view to pretty much every other road test/user. Could it be that the reviewer lacks credibility?
>Most drivers found it necessary to deactivate the system in order to give the Aero a serious workout, but in case your enthusiasm impairs your judgment, Saab made it tricky to turn ESP off: According to the owner's manual, ESP cannot be shut off at speeds above 35 mph, and even when it is turned off, it is always operative during braking.
Excuse me? "Most Drivers"? Can you back that up with how many drivers you polled to make the claim "Most Drivers"? Absolute tosh. Never had to deactivate it yet! It does it's job.
>As we eagerly pressed the throttle to power out of turns or glide down empty two-lane straightaways, our steering inputs and our gusto were immediately checked by heavy amounts of torque steer (not unusual in high-power front-drivers but especially pronounced in Saabs), the drive wheels veering outside of our intended path.
Ahh, so the reviewer didn't drive the car at all! There is practically no perceptible Torque Steer on the 2002 Aero. What car were they driving?
>Overall, the cockpit has a cozy, almost cramped feel (as if you were sitting in coach class)
LOL. This is a car with MORE interior room than anything else in it's segment. I guess your reviewer knows how to spell "Hidden Agenda"
" in consequence, we found that there weren't enough places to stash small items like cell phones,"
Doh! Saab provide in their Accessories catalog a very nice Cellphone mount, not to mention door mounted pockets. Guess what? The Audio system is pre-wired to enable you take/make calls through the Stereo. As standard. Did that get a mention? No...
" garage door openers (HomeLink isn't available) and tins of mints."
Reviewer didn't find the seat pockets in the front of the seats then? Either they didn't drive the car, or they didn't do much research here. I suspect the former, picking up on out of date reviews by other testers of older models. It certainly wasn't a 02 they could have been testing. (or for that matter, any MY - they've all got these pockets)
> The cupholder situation isn't any better; you have your choice of a funky holder that deploys from the center stack or another that's only available when the center console lid is open.
A cupholder that has been acclaimed by more Designers than this reviewer has driven cars apparently. I suspect Saab have made more sales through the design of this cupholder than any other more important feature - such as Safety, safest in class. (But how important is this anyway! - it's a car, not a fast food joint! Perhaps the reviewer is more familiar with the interiors of MacDonalds?)
"Still, we had a couple of small complaints: First, we wish the telescoping steering wheel provided a greater range of adjustment; and second, a sedan in this price class needs to provide height-adjustable seatbelts (which are already a staple among economy sedans)."
What a surprise. Again the reviewer shows a lack of research. What's wrong with the telescoping adjustment? It has plenty of range! And height adjustable seatbelts. LOL, the reviewer didn't note that they are height adjusting
More than a "religious" thing, I simply cannot accept that such a GREAT car, recognized as such by ALL recent reviews receives such an obviously flawed and insulting review from a obviously inexperienced driver.
GO BUY THE LAST ROAD AND TRACK. "Real reviewers rated the car 4th out of 12". The "Engineering Editor" of the mag even made it HIS pick!
To add to my disappointment, when I read the name of the reviewer, I said to myself: great to see a women writing a review. Might have a new perspective. BOY WAS I WRONG!
Erin: reviewing cars is a serious job. Less informed people RELY on reviews such as yours to get informed. You cannot treat your readers like this.
siwatkins did a great job of commenting this review. I just would like to add a few items.
It is an insult that security aspects (best in class!) have not been give appropriate coverage. THIS IS ONE MAJOR REASON WHY WE BUY CARS: TO PROTECT US!
"One common feature that Saab has not picked up on is a head curtain airbag system for front and rear passengers."
Oh, there are no side curtains? You know why? They are dangerous!
"Safest car ever tested" please read:
Last year, the Saab 9-5 was given a top, four-star crashworthiness rating by EuroNCAP after the inclusion of a new pole impact test. Following the tests, the EuroNCAP consortium stated that the Saab 9-5 was the safest car they had ever tested. The EuroNCAP consortium is comprised of the Swedish Road Administration, the British and Dutch Ministries of Transport, the EU Commission, FZ<caron>dZ<caron>ration Internationale de l'Automobile (FIA), Allgemeiner Deutscher Automobil-Club e V (ADAC), Alliance Internationale de Tourisme (AIT) and International Consumer Research and Testing (ICRT).
What about the SAHR system which limits the movement of the head in a rear-end crash? Please read from the same source.
For the full detail on the 9-5, please visit:http://www.saabnet.com/tsn/models/2002/(Thank You Saabnet)
Yes, SAAB has come a long way. And 2002 sales are the best ever. If car companies that improve tremendously their cars cannot be recognized and applauded, then write off the whole US car industry!
EDITORS OF EDMUNDS PLEASE READ THIS: Hire who yo want to test drive cars. But you ARE responsible to ensure that the content is ACCURATE AND FAIR. You clearly dropped the ball.
A VERY well informed 32-tear old car fan, who drives a stunning 9-5 Aero (2002) Silver Gray (3rd SAAB in 7 years) during the week and carries his little family in an Honda Odyssey EX-L 2002.
I am seriously wandering if I will log in here ever again.
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