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Saab 9-5 Sedan

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  • saenz74saenz74 Posts: 1
    I recently purchased a 2002 9-5 linear wagon and have noticed two particular noises that are kind of annoying.
    1. When I shut off the car I hear a noise coming from the engine (I think it's the a/c compressor shutting down??) It's not a fan but rather a low rumble that dies down after about 2 or 3 seconds.

    2. When I make a quick turn left or right a noise from the steering column. Not a scraping noise but again like a rumble.

    any advice or anyone with similar issues?
  • manamalmanamal Posts: 434
    Thought I would relay a negative onstar experience...

    I was in a 9-5 SE wagon. Was hit broadside by
    a caddy doing about 50. Airbags deploy....
    no call from onstar.

    So much for GM promises....
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,850
    Wow, I hope you're OK, manamal. I wonder if the malfunction occurred with the car, the Onstar installation, or if the defect was in the Onstar alone?

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  • dskidski Posts: 414
    Well, it's not a perfect world. Sorry to hear about your misfortune and I hope everyone is okay.

    You obviously own a computer so you know how todays technology can sometimes fail and let us down. I'm sure you've experienced similar failings with your Cell Service as well.

    I'd bet the OnStar system has a pretty good track record in these matters but don't forget, it may not even be OnStars fault. They also have to depend on a Reliable Cell signal and Service to work properly. Maybe it was Verison's or WorldComms fault. If you were in a Dead Cell service, it's not really anyones fault. Have you considered that possibility? OnStar is pretty clear about explaining their dependibility on Cellular services and any damage to the equipment in a crash.

    Best of luck hope they fix the car fast for you.
    Drew
  • manamalmanamal Posts: 434
    dski, kerstie_h:
    I know that onstar works in the area of the accident: the other vehicle was a '01 caddy, and
    onstar called him. My guess is that the impact severed a cable in the car or something.

    By the way, the car is not reparable. Everything
    right of the center console is damaged. (the center console was crushed). The car has been replaced with a Toyota minivan.
  • bmwjoebmwjoe Posts: 136
    I have a 2000 9-5 wagon. On a recent trip I had to go over 10 speed bumps in the driveway of the place I was staying. I alway went over slow with the clutch in. The front end made a "grunch" noise when it hit the bumps. The rear was quiet when it went over the same bump.

    Is this normal? I have the 30k service coming up. Any thoughts on what to say to the dealer?

    Ride Safe,

    Joe
  • dskidski Posts: 414
    If it were me, I would report this situation to Saab. The fact that the Caddy's On-Star worked might mean your system was dissabled from the crash. Saab may very well want to examine why it failed and where it was damaged so as to improve the system. They have a history of improving small Safety related designs for existing owners. Our first 900 was recalled for a safety improvement that was NOT a result of any Government intervention rather a discovery on Saabs part to make a small improvement.

    If there is something that can be improved to keep On-Star functioning after a collision, We current owners sure would appreciate it being addressed.

    Drew
  • jb7227jb7227 Posts: 86
    Looking to replace my wife's 2000 Lincoln LS V6 -great car, no problems - just want a change. She loves the looks of the 9-5 - and i just started doing my research. It appears that there are some great deals out there - i'm looking for premium package, auto trans and met. paint. What should we be paying? I figured this is a good time to buy since they must want to clear out the 2002's. Any hidden rebates (to dealer, etc.) that i should know about? Any advice would be appreciated!!
  • peterson33peterson33 Posts: 24
    We are looking at the 2002 Aero, metallic silver, touring package and automatic. The deal we are being offered in $35,600 to buy, that is with a GM Supplier discount(which anyone working for a GM supplier can get, eg. if your company provides hardware or software to them), the current $3000 incentive, and $500 loyalty since we have a Saab 9-3.

    Or we can lease it for $467 month, 3 yr. 12k mile lease($20500 residual, 1000 down). To me the lease is almost $3000 more then just outright buying it, can anyone explain why that might be? Does this sound like a good deal?
  • zeusalexzeusalex Posts: 1
    I just purchased a '99 9-5 with black paint and realizing this car does not have clear coat. I previously had a black '97 900 that didn't have clear coat either. I have heard that Lexus does not put a clear coat on their black cars either. Can anyone explain this to me?
  • dskidski Posts: 414
    I'm guessing the $3K difference is in the lease factor or interest. Are you comparing the Purchase Price as a Cash Deal to the total lease payments added up?

    If you compare a LOAN on the $35K to the lease deal, you should come up with the Lease being cheaper unless you get a very low or no interest loan. Wether or not it makes sense to pay cash for expensive cars is another story.

    Drew
  • rudikamprudikamp Posts: 34
    I need some advise on which of 2.3 turbo engine is
    more reliable, the light-pressure or the high-
    output turbo.I intent to keep the car for atleast 6 years.Thanks for all the information.
  • manamalmanamal Posts: 434
    Looking at SAABnet 9-5 bulletin board
    (www.saabnet.com), it seams that the
    2.3 HPT engine is more reliable than the
    2.3 LPT engine. The primary isues seem to
    blue smoke (blown turbo). The V6 lpt also
    seems to be reliable.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    The HP is a more reliable engine. I have seen several miley LPTs (70K+) and a few with as low as 45K miles that have been smokers.

    Never seen an HPT like that.

    Bill
  • I have a '01 95 with about 28k miles. Since purchasing the car, both headlamps have failed, both fog lamps have failed, both front turn signals have failed, the center rear brake lamp has failed, the dome light has failed, I've had to replace the brake pads, and now the lighting on the radio is failing.

    I've never had this many failures in all my other ars combined (mostly Acuras & Toyotas).

    Is there a problem with the Saab electical system?

    Is it normal to run through a set of Saab brake pads in 25k miles? I've never had to replace brake pads at less than 40k before.

    I love the car, but I'm considering selling it before the warranty period expires. Thoughts?
  • manamalmanamal Posts: 434
    Headlights fail because of the daytime runing lights. Can't comment on the rest.
  • edisaacedisaac Posts: 15
    Looking at getting a 9-5, probably the Arc model. Like to know what people are getting out there. Went to the dealership yesterday and the salesperson was telling me that Saab has a very attractive lease package, I think the payment came out to about $375-400/month. I told her that I would most likely put on more mileage than a lease typically allows. However she said that shouldn't matter much because with the money factor used (?) and the residual value at the end of the lease the numbers favor leasing, even with the 0% financing. Apparently they can't discount(rebate) much on the 0% interest. Help.
  • cstowecstowe Posts: 96
    I am looking at a 1999 Saab 9-5 se v6 turbo, loaded, auto, 41K miles, silver, black leather, ventilated front seats, heated front and rear seats. I have set up a time to drive it on friday here in New Orleans. The dealer has it listed for 19,999 and will Saab Certify it for something like $599 more. How does this sound? What do you think I should offer? This would be my first Saab, what about reliability, maintenance costs, etc. Comments welcome from all!
  • bbf65bbf65 Posts: 29
    what's in the saab's engine(s)?
    timing belt or chain? (I4 and V6)
    also, am trying to decide between the Saab 9-5
    and the Infiniti G35.
    all input welcome.
    thanks.
  • manamalmanamal Posts: 434
    2.3t (and 2.3T): timing chain
    3.0t: timing belt (first replacement "free" @60K)

    Can't comment on Infinity 35 (except, it is
    a lot smaller, I think).
  • dskidski Posts: 414
    I'm on my Third Saab and haven't had the kind of trouble you've had. I must be lucky. I will say, however, that our '02 model does have some kind of odd electrical glitch that will be addressed in the 10K service. At this point I'm not concerned.

    As far as the brakes go, there is no simple answer as to what normal life is. ie. I got almost 50K out of my New Montero and the dealer was amazed claiming that on average owners are looking at their second pad replacement by then. I drive 80% highway in that vehicle and No Aggressive driving.

    Have your driving patterns changed at all with the Saab? Many people will claim they haven't changed but when taking time to think, they sometimes will admit to driving the Saab in a more "Aggresive/ Fun" manner than with their other cars. Driving in that manner is expected more from the likes of Saabs and BMW's etc than with Honda's and Acura's. The First Step is Admitting it then accept that the results are a happier existance and Shorter Brake Pad Life. :)

    Drew
  • I talked to a saab dealer in Frederick, MD who said Saab was offering dealers $6700 in incentives 95 linears w/ premium packages - they were only passing about 5k on to customers. Has any one heard of this deal before? Anyone with good pricing or dealer info in the DC area and loan info would be a champ if you wrote back. Thanks!
  • cstowecstowe Posts: 96
    It is true. I saw a sheet for the GM supplier discount program that offered 6750 rebate on 2002 9-5 (Linear only).

    Am I a CHAMP now?

    3500 back on 9-3se
    6000 back on 9-3se convert.
    6750 back on 9-5 linear (no mention of prem package)
    5000 back on 9-5 linear wagon

    This is from the GM Supplier Discount website but the rebates are typically the same ones everybody gets.
  • stgreenstgreen Posts: 74
    A few questions:
    1) how do the preferated seats really work to keep one cool?
    2) how is gas milage on average for those who have the ARC and the AERO?
    3) over the long haul, day in and day out, is the suspension on the AERO? - too stiff? too jarring?
    4) whats the 'winter wheel package' (16 inchers) like with the AERO? ((how does it handle in the snow?)

    thanks in advance.
  • Hey cstowe,

    You're a champ! Thanks. When I told the dealership I was posting this note they said, well, we can do the full $6,750. The power of communication! Thanks!
  • manamalmanamal Posts: 434
    try international saab in Falls Church, VA
  • edisaacedisaac Posts: 15
    Any rebates available on the Arc models?
  • bg729bg729 Posts: 6
    I am a school teacher and a new Saab is out of my league, but a local dealer has a used /preowned fleet vehicle- Auto Arc 6 cyl.- that is a certified preowned 2001 Saab with 21,000 miles for around $25,000.
    What have been your experiences with certified preowned SAAB's? Is the warranty as good as it reads???Am I missing something?
    My brother feels that 21,000 miles in a year is hard driving and I will be facing the expense of new brakes and tires sooner rather than later and these are exclusionary items?

    He also says that when the warranty runs out, I will not be able to afford maintenance or repairs which are notorously expensive. Is that true??

    I looked into the cost of an extended warranty and it is $2000-ouch!

    Is anyone driving the Arc /
    auto 6 cyl? How is it behaving itself so far??

    Thanks in advance for any thoughts and advice.
  • manamalmanamal Posts: 434
    21000 miles in one year probably means that it was primarily run on the highway, which is not hard driving.

    By the way 2001 v6 was called the SE. I had a 2001 SE wagon...bought new for 30,500. Totalled it after 6 months (was hit broadside by a caddy doing 50 mph). I did not buy another saab because we really needed a minivan (children...).

    The certification gives you a 100K warentee. Should be no need for another warentee. Also, V6 seems to be a good engine. I have not heard of any problems with it. (I did not own my car long enough to encounter any problems). The 2.3 LPT engine does seem to have issues with turbos/blue smoke (HPT 2.3 does not have this problem).

    Once thing to consider, though is that SAAB maintence and repairs are expensive. Even though you would be paying 25K, down the road expenses will be much higher than many other cars. Price out the 60K tuneup, for example.

    Also check www.saabnet.com
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