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  • kominskykominsky Posts: 850
    Raftaar, I have a topaz coupe with black leatherette. IMHO, the two look GREAT together. I also get tons of compliments on the brushed aluminum trim. I was tossing around getting the wood, but agree it gets lost in the black interior. In hindsight, I'm glad I went with the standard aluminum. If you want to send me your email, I'll send you some pics (I think I have a couple interior pics laying around, but if not, I'll take some).
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Posts: 2,698
    alpine325 - Thanks for the BMW Circle tip. I checked the rims - I definitely got the style 44 rims. It's the first time I noticed that they have a little more detail and elegance to them compared to the 45 style.

    kominsky - I'd love to see a picture of your car's interior. I think Topaz/black int./aluminum trim is the most beautiful combo I've seen. BTW, the black interior is really charcoal gray.

    As I'd mentioned in a previous post from this morning, I am picking up the car on Friday but the dealer wanted to put in the paperwork today so they can lock in the month-end commission. She offered this morning to put in the wheel locks for free as a 'Thank you' for allowing her to complete the paperwork ahead of schedule. Just goes to show that everything is negotiable. And the biggest trump card that you are holding in your hands is the evaluation that she will be receiving from you.
  • reubencahnreubencahn Posts: 102
    I didn't mean the Contis weren't summer tires. From my understanding they are. But, so are the Dunlop 8080s.

    This is a little out of my depth since I live in Florida, but I understand that the problem with these tires is not simply traction in snow. Summer tires are not formulated for low temps and below 40 degrees lose their flexibility and grip. I'd be very wary of trying to drive these through the winter. One stupid accident will cost you a $500 deductible plus the increase in your insurance rates.

    On the other hand, the grip of good high performance tires is not just incrementally better than good all seasons. It is a difference in kind not degree. Enjoy the ride. You've got all spring and summer ahead of you.
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Posts: 2,698
    I misread your post, I'm sorry. I read it again and I see what you mean - the Contis are in the same category as the 8080s and such. You also helped me realize that it's not just the road condition that matters, it's the temperature as well. I always keep thinking dry vs. snow and you made it clear that the summer tires will not perform well on any surface when the outside temp is very low.
  • dundedunde Posts: 32
    Regarding exterior colors on 325s, I agree the Topaz Blue Metallic looks very good. Infact I have ordered a 325xi Topaz Blue. Very Sporty. Booked on March 30th. Supposed to hit production on May 21st week. Delivery in end of June / begining of July.

    The Topaz Blue color was available but the BMW mauals from the Dealers do not show that and the BMW web site now shows it .. (finally they updated it). The good thing I like about it is that it looks blue from every angle u look at it. The Orient Blue was my second option but at times it looks black becoz its pretty dark shade.
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Posts: 2,698
    Yep, the Topaz is blue from every angle and at any light. Great choice for a sporty color! It's reminiscent of the Nogaro Blue in the S4. I sat in one of these S4's with black leather (it's actually closer to charcoal gray) and I totally love the combo. Bugatti first pioneered that sort of electric blue color back in the 30's when all other sports cars were bright red. Very distinctive! I am still happy with the classy Orient Blue but it's less sporty than the Topaz.
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Posts: 2,698
    Just wanted to mention to all of you that around here in Mass and posibly in other parts of the country, there are all kinds of speed traps at the end of each month and esp. at the end of each quarter. I rarely see speed traps during my work commute but this morning there were two at sections of the highway that are rarely patrolled. Same thing the last couple of days in March. Soon enough I may be able to tell the day of the month by the speed traps on my way to work. Be careful out there.
  • dundedunde Posts: 32
    I remember when I ordered my 325xi that time Automatic Climate Control was part of the Premium Pkg and not as a standard feature. Now the bmw web site shows it as a standard feature. I m just wondering if u dont have PP then do u still have Auto Climate Control in your puppy ?
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Posts: 2,698
    got some options as standard. These include cars that were produced after March 1, I think. The 325 series got the auto climate, cruise control and fog lights as standard and the SP was $100 cheaper. According to BMWNA, they did this to better compete with the Audi and Lexus, which come with a lot more standard equipment in this class. I ordered on March 12 and yes, my puppy does have all of these at no additional cost. Beware of unscrupulous dealers. Some of them may conveniently forget to mention these details to you. They tried it with me and I had to go with a different dealer. Dunde, if you ordered your car on March 30, as you mentioned, you should've had the auto climate for free, otherwise the dealer may be overcharging you as it is. That actually happened with the A4 that we got - we ordered it, some prices went down and the dealer was very honest in pointing these out and keeping the same price over invoice. I think your dealer should do the same but I'd be a little ticked off by the fact that had a whole month to figure out these changes by the end of month and they should've advised you better.
  • uge123uge123 Posts: 100
    What you get off MSRP (or markup from invoice) depends on the market in your particular area. I feel that Edmunds TMV underestimates the discount you can get. (e.g. TMV predicted only $200 off my 325iT w/leather/SP/xenon/metallic/heated seats/moonroof, but I got a lot more than that. If I had the time to go outside of Chicago I would have done better.) If you have the time and the flexibility, Steve Diamond states the he can find a car for you at about $500-1000 markup from invoice, which is great.

    Snow tires: What part of the country are you in? I've driven M-B's with all season Conti's that have been horrible in the snow, both with and without traction control. When you add snow tires, driving in snow feels like dry pavement (or at worst some rain). Even with AWD, in Chicago I would go with snow tires.
  • holeinoneholeinone Posts: 48
    Giving that the 2002 models will be out just around the corner, does it mean if I can't get good deals comparable to $1,500 over invoice at my dealer, I might as well get the 2002 model at say $500 off MSRP? Also, does one generally get a better deal with the 330 than 325?

    uge123, can you tell me who is Steve Diamond and how is he going to get deals at $500-1000 over invoice? Thanks!
  • waileawailea Posts: 22
    Wanted to let you know my dealer was as cool as they come. I had initially ordered a pre March 1st 325i with SP,HK,heated seats, CD. He called me back a few weeks later and said that BMW had changed some options and made them standard (in my case ACC and CC) and reduced the price $100. He wanted to check if we wanted him to place a new order for the upgraded car. HECK YEAH! He said he would take the original car and put in dealer inventory.

    Funny thing was my wife went to have the car programmed for Auto Door Lock and Daytime Running Lights and saw our original car we ordered with a "Sold Sign" on it.
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Posts: 2,698
    Wow, that's what I call a dealer! You are very lucky, indeed. I wish they were all like that. BTW, your options are almost the same as mine - I think the only diff is the xenons that I got.

    I'm also going with the automatic door lock. I thought it was after 5 mph but the dealer claims it's 2.5 mph. Same thing I guess but definitely a great safety feature. I've had DRL on my Jetta VR6 and I don't like them all that much. It's probably safer with DRL but I figure if I wanted lights, I'd just put them on myself. Also, the dealer convinced me to go with the 2-phase unlock for the car. I drive by myself 90% of the time and I think it makes sense for security purposes.
  • for the sf bay area-ers who got their cars from east bay bmw, who was the salesman you've talked to???

    seems like you guys got pretty good deal from them.
  • veekay1veekay1 Posts: 180
    Does anybody know what the scoop is on the finance rate after today?
  • phenegarphenegar Posts: 5
    I ordered my 325i in mid March. They told me I could get the 5.9%. Am I still locked into this rate? BTW my car has not been ship yet. It was on a train in Germany going to the port on April 9. I will be picking my car up in NC. Does anyone know when the next ship bound for this part of the US will leave?
  • 1x1x1x11x1x1x1 Posts: 3
    According to BMW's web page, the standard 330i comes with 17 inch wheels (17x7.0).

    Somebody please help me with my question: is it possible to install 16 inch rims on the 330i?

    (Or could it be possible that all 330i/Ci with SP owners are such daredevils that they think high performance tires on icy winter roads are a rather perfect setup to try their driving skills?)
  • alpine325ialpine325i Posts: 209
    Brave1heart, The 44's are HOT! To me they look agressive and more "modern" with the sharp edges. Cool, free wheel locks! I paid $24 for the "non-key" type. I feel alot more secure with them on. I also got the etched glass security option, $200. This detracts theives so they have alot of trouble "parting out" the car because the glass has serial numbers permanently etched into the glass! When I went to pay for my car, they offered the etched glass option, $200, the paint sealer option $200, and a 4 year/ 50,000 service option $400. I went with the etched glass option only :o)
  • errickson1errickson1 Posts: 17
    I think BMWFS can/will "lock-in" your rate for 60 days after you place the order. After 60 days, you would get the prevailing interest rate.

    BTW: I am told that if your vehicle is coming from SA, the delivery time is taking longer...because of mfg deficiencies? NO! ...because the port in SA is on the east side of the country, which means the ships are taking MUCH longer to arrive hear (ie travelling south around the tip of Africa and all that).
  • kominskykominsky Posts: 850
    pretty good prices for those looking for clears, arm-rests, alarms, etc

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