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BMW 3-Series 2005 and earlier

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  • djocksdjocks Posts: 124
    I have a 330i on lease ending in 5 months. My budget is for a 3 series but i am desparately needing more room. Interior quality is very important. Would you consider a bigger sedan like a maxima or maybe buying a used large luxury sedan?
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Posts: 2,698
    Depends on what kind of space you need. Leg room, cargo, shoulder room, everything? You should look at the Infiniti G35 sedan - they are bigger inside and are pretty good all-around cars.
  • amt7565amt7565 Posts: 165
    I strongly recommend the Infinity G35. Great cars!
  • CrevelsCrevels Posts: 37
    Also don't forget that the new 3-series is coming out next month and it's increased in size. It's comparable in size to the old 5 series. If you're only looking for a little more space (leg, shoulder, etc), then you might want to just stay in the 3-series line. Cost shouldn't be much more than what you're paying now and the new 325 is going to have almost as much power as your existing 330.
  • tenet1tenet1 Posts: 354
    Well I would just live with the cramped 3er :) No really, there are other cars that are bigger and yet fun to drive, but do you want to give up the fun factor?
  • djocksdjocks Posts: 124
    I am definately going to wait until the next 3 comes out and I can go sit in it. I drove a g35 for 2 days. A friend and I swaped and it certainly fulfills some needs. I do believe the Bimmer is more fun but I am going to look heavily at the G35. I am also going to consider the acura TL. I live in the northeast so the front wheel drive is both a curse and a blessing.

    believe it or not, I have also given some consideration to the X3. Seems like right now you could load one up nice and get a good deal on a lease. Not to mention, that roof is kick-[non-permissible content removed].

    The biggest problem i have is keeping a budget I can live with and my need for a family sedan. i would prefer to stay in the money ranges of the new 325's but it is hard to do when the g35 offers so much for the same price. the 325 i am sure will still drive tighter but there is no questioning the bang for the buck.

    I have also looked on line at large lux's. Like used infiniti Q45's and older style M45's, ES 330's and passat W8's. A lot of decisions coming but it will come down to the size of new 3.

    I wish i had more space and guts and break down, buy a used accord for work and put a Z4 next to it!

    thanks all for allowing me to vent, djocks!
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Posts: 2,698
    One thing I really like about the 3-series is that it is the ultimate compromise. Really, it's a great all-around car. Fun to drive on the street and track, practical, comfortable, luxurious, it's everything. Even the E46 has plenty of room in the back for 2 child seats. My wife's only gripe with it has been that it's too low and it's too hard on her back having to lift our son in the back. Luckily, he is old enough now to be able to climb in and out himself. I personally would much rather have just one car that is reasonably good at everything. I spend at least an hour a day in the car and it's some of the best quality time I get on a weekday. There's no way I'd want to spend that one hour each day in a lame SUV or a boring Accord...
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    As if you don't have enough options to have to sift through, have you considered the new E90 Estate Wagon? Might be just the ticket for your growing family. ;-)

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • grantchstrgrantchstr Posts: 371
    I just leased a 325xi at a way cheaper deal than the G35.......why pay more?
  • tenet1tenet1 Posts: 354
    Shipo - Please do not spread the word. I am eagerly awaiting it for myself and would hate to see a wait list at the dealers ;)
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Word? What word? ;-)

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • eebanaeebana Posts: 2
    My wife and I are buying our first BMW. It will be for her. She is interested in a 3 series.

    I am trying to convenience her to go the pre-owned route. I don't really see the need for spending 40k on a car- I know it is a BMW. No need to clown me.
    My goal is to keep it sub 30k.

    Is that reasonable(pre owned)?

    Should we go for a 2005 or even wait for the 2006?

    If we do go pre-owned. what is the latest year, model, and miles you would reco?

    Please advise.

    Thanks....
  • eebanaeebana Posts: 2
    My wife and I are buying our first BMW. It will be for her. She is interested in a 3 series.

    I am trying to convenience her to go the pre-owned route. I don't really see the need for spending 40k on a car- I know it is a BMW. No need to clown me.
    My goal is to keep it sub 30k.

    Is that reasonable(pre owned)?

    Should we go for a 2005 or even wait for the 2006?

    If we do go pre-owned. what is the latest year, model, and miles you would reco?

    Please advise.

    Thanks....
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,575
    '05 3-series sedans have big incentives on them right now.. You can buy a new '05 325i for $4500-$5000 off of MSRP or a new '05 330i for $7000 off MSRP..

    That might not get it to sub-$30K, but definitely in the $31K-$35K range for a brand new car with full warranty and free maintenance included... Four years of worry free driving...

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  • tenet1tenet1 Posts: 354
    If you want to stay under 30k then why even think about the 2006. I agree with kyfdx...the 2005's have great deals on them and since you were ok with pre-owned, now you can have a new one. My friend is looking into one and while we were looking, the dealer offered to make me a "sick deal" on a 330i SP (6-8k off sticker). This is without haggling. Almost bought the darn thing

    Now the deals on the 325s are not as good but will easily get you down to 30-31k. Find a dealer who has many 325s in inventory and look for lightly optioned ones, then start negotiating. This should bring you into you price range. Nothing like that new car feel.
  • coby03coby03 Posts: 55
    kyfdx,

    Couldn't recall the final verdict, are you coming to the Cleveland event this Friday for the "unveiling" of the new 3 sedan? I've finally gone through all my "wheelings and dealings" and am picking up the 330Ci ZHP tomorrow. Now that I'm officially going to be a member of the BMW fraternity, I've decided to attend. Based on my work schedule I can only be at the Noon Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame unveiling ceremony and then later I'll be down at the reception at the Sheraton at 6:00PM with the wife. I live about 30 miles east of Cleveland so it will be too convenient to pass on the opportunity. You've been such a big help to all on this board, I'd be happy to buy you a drink and show you some Buckeye hospitality. Let me know. Thanks.

    Ken
  • jamesspotjamesspot Posts: 57
    Wife's age, attitude, willingness to drive stick?
    You should be able to get a good, used 325i for $20k- still under warranty would be a good thing. Lots of them were leased for 3 years.
    A 325i with auto and moonroof is a soft-riding, comfortable small sedan with luxury features and is the ultimate young wife mobile until you need to car pool or have older kids.
    A 325i with stick and sports package is for someone who wants a "practical" sports car with four doors.
    A 330i adds grunt to the motor and a few features at an increased price.
    OBTW - my mid 40's wife "tolerates" my 330i ZHP: too low, too stiff, too small, too fast, too hard braking for her taste. Loves her Toyota minivan: hauls our family and all of our stuff in comfort, equal mileage to the BMW, softer ride and way more room. It's dentist chair or stretching out on the living room couch. She chooses the spring down couch. Our 13 year old son says "In 3 years Dad, you can get a new BMW and I can drive THIS one!" Ha!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,575
    No, I called and canceled last night..

    I was scheduled for the "3 drive" at 0900, and just couldn't justify the 9 hour round trip to drive in a parade, even though I'm off work that day..

    Thanks for the offer, though!! Your events sound like more fun than the parade. I've heard the reception is pretty nice.

    regards,
    kyfdx

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  • albellalbell Posts: 185
    I am closing in on my 1 year, smile-filled anniversary of my (leased) 04 325 convertible. As I have only 6000 miles on it, the car is not calling for maintenance, and I cannot seem to find whether the BMW schedule requires it at 1 year regardless of miles or just when the car tells you. Advice?

    Thanks.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    The mainentance thing is weird. I've called BMW many times about my car and maintenance even though it still has not requested it. Each time they tell me to call when the car asks for it. Odd, to say the least. I've had the same oil for like 16 months!
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,575
    Every BMW service department that I have talked to, will do a complimentary oil change on the anniversary date, whether you have reached the service interval or not.. Generally, they do not reset the service interval when they do this, so that your car will still call for the recommended service at the proper time..

    regards,
    kyfdx

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  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    There's the rub, my aniversary date is still 1.5 months away! I got my first oil change 7 months after getting the car - like 12 or 13k miles. 16 months later I'm at 25k miles and the obc still says 1100 miles until service. I'll get it done in May even though I'll probably still be 700-800 miles from service.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,575
    I think you can get it on any one year anniversary of your last service... The intention is not to go over 12 months without an oil change..

    So, if your last service was November of '03, then you could get an oil change in November of '04, even if your interval wasn't up, without re-setting your interval..

    regards,
    kyfdx

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  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    Huh, unfortunately the dealer said otherwise. Shrug.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 28,575
    Yeah... too bad you don't have any other dealers to pick from :surprise:

    I know, I know... it is leased.. who cares?

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  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    You said it, not me. :P

    And actually, I don't have other dealers that are local. The next closest is a pit called BMW of San Diego and the place is a little slice of hell run by a bunch of doddering fools.

    After that we're talking at least a 25 mile drive.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    "After that we're talking at least a 25 mile drive."

    Hehe, around here a dealership within 25 miles is considered a local dealer. ;-)

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • div2div2 Posts: 2,580
    "Hehe, around here a dealership within 25 miles is considered a local dealer."
    Same here! It's no big deal really-it builds character (not to mention solid DIY skills).
  • webby1webby1 Posts: 209
    My dealer advised me the same.
    Regards,
    Webby
  • xkssxkss Posts: 722
    Get a 2005 3 series. They are offering great incentives on them. Plus, it looks far better than the new 3 series with its flat dashboard.
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