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BMW 3-Series 2005 and earlier



  • brave1heartbrave1heart Posts: 2,698
    I stopped by the dealer to pick up a bottle and could not believe they charge $16 for a gallon. According to the manual, "never use anything other than factory-approved, nitrite and aminofree extended-duty antifreeze with corrosion inhibitor..." I'd think the ones you can pick up at a gas station cost a lot less and are essentially the same, no?!?
  • platypusplatypus Posts: 192
    I respectfully disagree with 1pierce. A 3-series wagon (or any sport wagon for that matter) makes a whole lot more sense for the 90%+ of SUV buyers who don't take their vehicles off road. Take a 325ixT, A4 Avant Quattro, A6 Avant Quattro, or Passat Variant 4Motion, and you've got a vehicle that does 95% of what an SUV does, has superior handling characteristics, and doesn't impair the vision for the rest of us out there driving cars.

    I've got my sights set on a Passat W8 wagon with 6-spd manual transmisson. 0-60 in 6.2 seconds (est.), 270hp, 273 ft-lb of torque at 2750 rpm, AWD, 20/27 mpg (est.), and 36 cubic feet of cargo capacity, all in a package for under $40K.

    Throw the kids in the back seat - strollers and other gear in the cargo area and you've got a vehicle that will run circles around any SUV. Would be a nice complement to the 330, which is still BTW at the body shop awaiting a new roof from Germany. :-(

    Wagons kick a$$!
  • brave1heartbrave1heart Posts: 2,698
    yep, the SP5000 really are that good.

    Wagons - I really like them too, esp. the Avant and the iT. I'd seriously consider one when we need more room for the family.
  • mschukarmschukar Posts: 351
    Count me in as a wagon lover. We have a Volvo wagon which we chose when we came to our senses while looking at SUV's. Safety was a major consideration and SUV's just aren't as safe as good cars.

    I was initially looking at 3 series wagons but opted for the sedan due to the added cost, the rack mounts standard on the sedan and I liked the looks of the sedan better.

    Our next vehicle will likely be another wagon or a minivan.

  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    I myself like SUVS. My last one was a JGC LTD with Quadradrive, my current one is a Mountaineer. It's all about what you like and want.
  • seivwrigseivwrig Posts: 388
    3 series pricing is available on

    and on Bimmerfest, go to the General discussion area for pricing

    Have fun!!!

  • bmw323isbmw323is Posts: 410
    I like the looks of the BMW wagon as well. A friend has one for taking his dogs with him. A nice rubber mat in the back and he was set. Ten years from now, you'll see more wagons being sold than SUV's - just like when wagons were popular in the 60's. That's America - back to the future!
    By the way, is a Subaru Forester a wagon or SUV?
  • div2div2 Posts: 2,580
    You're getting gigged on the BMW coolant(I pay $13/gallon), but I won't use anything else in my Bimmers. It allows you to run three years between changes and it is one of the best coolants out there. There are a few decent OTC coolants out there, but I'm sticking with the BMW stuff.
  • tchootchoo Posts: 93
    1pierce: I find the Goodyear's to be a mediocre tire. They're ok in the dry, but don't give much warning at the limits. I've had it break free on a sharp turn without any aural feedback whatsoever. They're not terribly good in the wet, but passable. I have 15K on them right now and they seem to have lots of wear left, even the rear tires. They came OEM with my '01 325Ci. I was a little disappointed I didn't get the Conti's but I've heard that many people didn't like them either. My winter tires - Dunlop Winter Sport M2's perform better than the Goodyears in all respects. When the Goodyear's wear out I was thinking of swapping them with Kumho Ecsta MX's, Sumitomo HTR, Dunlop FM901's, or Potenza RE950's. Did you say that the Potenza's are worse than the Goodyear's?? I've heard nothing but good things about them?
  • Did I read the 2003 info correctly. Full maintenance for 4yr/50k miles! That is a great change. They can keep the rest of the changes.
  • tenet1tenet1 Posts: 354
    Never fear. I picked up my '01 in the middle of September last year after a long wait. I could have waited another month to get an '02 but it really doesn't matter.

    Disagree on the wagon. I think it looks cool. I will look to get one of those or a used 5er wagon sometime in the future.
  • esq1esq1 Posts: 20
    Hey! There are a few of us wagon owners out here. 1pierce is right about the wagons being rare, but I love my 325xiT. Interestingly, I didn't get the premium package because my wife didn't want the moonroof (and the kid in the backseat probably wouldn't have enjoyed it too much either). Now, there's no choice. I wonder if lack of buyer interest in a moonroof option is why they made the moonroof standard. Switching gears, I had Goodyear RS-As on my first post-college car, a Sunfire GT (which was a lousy, but fast, car). The Goodyears were awful on wet pavement. Even at slow speeds, I'd slide like I was on ice.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,395
    A 3 series wagon (and other wagons that brave1heart mentioned) is definitely something that would appeal to me. I'd definitely take a wagon over an SUV or a minivan. Many wagons handle better than SUVs or MiniVans, offer lots of cargo room, many offer AWD, and some even out handle their sedan counter parts, not to mention I like the styling. Even though a wagon may weigh more than than its sedan sibling, the weight over the back is more evenly distributed.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • jean7of9jean7of9 Posts: 192
    Does anybody know when we should expect the 03 prices for Canada?
    Also is it possible that Canadian and USA 3's are assembled on two different lines. While USA 3's come pre-wired for the Homelink module (BMW's own garage opener)Canadian 3's are not pre-wired. This option is neither provided by BMW Canada nor it is possible to retrofit the USA module. Only the the fivers are indulged with this.
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    I have to admit, I really like the German wagons. My wife isn't too wild about wagons, they make her think of a mom-mobile. But It is a good alternative to a minivan or SUV. She does like the German wagons better than any other wagon, but that isn't saying a whole lot.

    Our people hauler is a 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited with the Quadradrive to take us skiing. I'd rather take the BMW though. But it just doesn't have the storage for 4 people's ski equipment (including clothing).

    Maybe if just me and wife go... :)

  • aldubyaaldubya Posts: 38
    Talk about charges for bmw coolant! I took my 325xi in for my first oil change (15k miles)and was advised to have the tires rotated. When I asked what the charge for that service was, I was informed, $100! The local tire store charges $40
  • erickplerickpl Posts: 2,735
    I had my tires rotated on my xi to alleviate a vibration. Cost me $20.00.

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,395
    I believe if you check your owner's manual, it clearly states that BMW advises against rotating the tires. It nmay be different on the xi modles though.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • abcnycabcnyc Posts: 101
    Any suggestions in taking care of a small scratch/ding on the door. Touch up paint is not necessary. Is thee anything that can polish or buff it out ?
  • 1pierce1pierce Posts: 284
    tchoo: I have the RE950's. They are better in every way than the RS-A's, except that I think they give way sooner than the Goodyears in hard cornering. It might be in my head, though. It could be the lack of aural warning you mentioned with the RS-A's. I did break mine loose several times without much warning (but, in retrospect, I knew I was driving in too deep). I don't remember them squealing very often, which is what I like about Goodyears in general. The 950's may actually grip better, but they squeal at or near the limit, which I find really annoying. They sure do ride quiet and smooth, though, for all the handling you get from them.
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