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Lexus ES 300/ES 330



  • cavescaves Posts: 13
    My Lexus dealer is Magnussens' Lexus of Fremont, California.

    They are one of the largest Lexus dealers in Northern California.

    I guess I'm lucky,
  • cavescaves Posts: 13
    Forgot one more suggestion for 2003 ES 300

    Place ex tenders in the sun visors. The sun visors do not have ex tenders on them to block sun light for driver or passenger side windows.

    In the pursuit of perfection
  • mvatz1mvatz1 Posts: 1
    I am considering a 1998 Certified ES 300 with 30k miles. Also considering a 2002 Maxima GLE or Accura TL 3.2. I know they are very different cars, but I'd appreciate any input on experience with the pre-owned: service, longevity, etc.
  • Caves; The sun visors can be adjusted. Swing the visor to the side window and pull back. It will go back about 6". On a test drive I did just that and said to myself "What a cheap departure from the little plastic sun visor extenders on my 2000 Solara." Hope this helps.
  • parnolaparnola Posts: 140
    I had a '97 ES which I bought certified with 32k miles and drove it to the 90k mark. Only problem I ever had was the leather looked worn on the drivers seat which they fixed under the warranty. It was a great car, though the new ES seems to really push the car into a higher class - I test drove it last week and did not feel like I was in an ES the way I remember them.
  • hunter001hunter001 Posts: 851
    "I experienced more of California than I ever knew. In LA area it would crisscross a freeway 4-5 times in a 10 mile area by following city streets. Whoever program this system does not like freeways"

    Maybe you need to check your NAV settings. In the Navigation in my Acura 3.2TL, there are options like "Minimize Freeways", "Minimize Tollroads" etc. Maybe your NAV is set on "Minimize Freeways" ?!!! It could be worth checking it out. Your "problem" could have a "solution" as simple as that !!

  • dardson1dardson1 Posts: 696
    Lexus has moved to the slab side look.....mono-chrome....everything top to bottom painted the same color. Lexus has forever used two-toned paint (bottom and top of the profile different colors)....I'm glad I bought an 01. It's only a perception, but visually dividing the profile makes the car look longer, lower, and leaner. The fashion today is to make everything look like a 49 Mercury. I know retro is in, but that doens't make it good.
  • jjpcatjjpcat Posts: 118
    I agree w/ you about the service from that Lexus dealer. My wife and I have bought 2 Lexus from them. The price was great and they really treat us well. They told me they spent $10k on that massage chair. On the contrary, my sister who own a MB and a Porsche has much more to complain about the quality of her cars and the dealers who sold them, e.g., she got Honda and Mazda as loaners.

    I also agree with you about the wood steering wheel. It doesn't look good while it's practical harmful. It seems to me Lexus like that though, because so many new Lexus come with that.

    I am surprised about your gas mileage. For our 98 ES300, we could usually get 27-28mpg for a long freeway drive and we were driving much faster than your 62mph. If we were doing 62mpg, we might have got 29-30mpg. Note that 98 ES was rated as 19/26mpg while 2002 ES was rated as 21/29mpg.
  • Hello everyone,
    I was looking at a '99 ES300 for my wife with 16k miles in Oyster color. It looks virtually new outside and inside. They had it listed at $26.9k and the salesman offered $25.8k + TTL. This is less than the Edmunds TMV (I think about $27k). I know there is a lot of concern about the accuracy of the TMV, especially with a new model out now. The salesman mentioned also that there's a special finance rate of 4.9% for up to 66 months just for certified ES300s and RX300s.

    I have looked at other dealers on the internet in surrounding cities - and they typically had listed prices $1k more than this dealer's list.

    Any suggestions on the pricing of this car would be appreciated. It really is quite a beaty, but there may be dozens more ES300s coming off lease now with the new model out.

  • autos3autos3 Posts: 24
    As the current owner of a 00 Acura RL and a 02
    Acura TL-S, last night we drove to our local Lexus dealer and drove the new ES. WOW! We decided to trade our TL for the ES. Don't get me wrong the TL is a great car, but Acura has room for improvement with the TL. Our car is 8months old and has suffered from several annoying returns to our dealer. Our RL has been flawless and we think the RL, though 7years in current form competes well with the new ES.

    Can't wait til Saturday to pick up the new car!
  • tgif888tgif888 Posts: 351
    What is your trade-in value of your TL-S?
  • lenscaplenscap Posts: 854
    I'm sorry to see you don't like the look of the new Lexus models. You may like it, but the two-tone look is clearly out of style. Lexus used that to imitate Mercedes, which had the different color lower cladding on most of their models when Lexus came out in late 1989.

    Now, however, that look is simply out of date. Mercedes no longer uses that look and Lexus is clearly moving away from it as well. The monotone look is certainly not retro as most cars never had the lower cladding to begin with.

    Also, not all Lexus models had the two-tone look. The original SC300/400 and GS300 (except white) never did.

    My 1995 ES300 is black with a gray lower body. I liked it in 1995, but now it just makes my car look really dated.

    As we all know, looks are very subjective.
  • autos3autos3 Posts: 24
    Our TL-S is Pearl white/Black non-nav w/8k for mileage. The trade value was $28,000.00. We paid $30500.00 new. MSRP on the ES was $367??.00
    and we are paying $35,250.00, not a bad deal in our eyes.
  • lenscaplenscap Posts: 854
    I'd say you made a fantastic deal on the ES. Here in my area (Chicago) the dealers are not budging off of list.

    What did you like so much about the ES vs. the Acura?
  • gambhirgambhir Posts: 64
    I read something on mileage on a trip in california a new owner took--th mileage will improve--wait till your first service--after a few refills it will be improve

    Also my car has arrived from japan--expected to arrive here at dealership next Friday--so I can hardly wait--will let you all know when I get it
  • cecconceccon Posts: 22
    I have a 93 es 300 with 154,000 miles on it. The only non-routine maintenance on the car involved the air conditioning going out at 140,000 miles, whioch cost aropund $1,000. It still runs well and looks great. I could probably get another 50,000 miles out of this car.

    On a different note, I looked at the new es 300 a few weeks ago, and did not care for the design of the front end. I was passing a dealership today and went in and looked at the car again. I have totally changed my opinion on the design, and think the design of the front end is ahead of its time. I felt the same way about the front end of the Mercedes e class with the round headlights. I didn't like it at first, but now think its one of the best looking cars around.

    I have now decided I'm going to try and lease a new es 3000. Do you think I could get a lease for around $500 a month on a 5 year lease, with no cap reduction?
  • autos3autos3 Posts: 24
    We will miss our TL-S, but we also have a 00 RL.
    We have returned to our Acura dealer with the TL for the following...the pearl paint on the front/rear bumpers in so miss-/-matched to the rest of the car, particularly highlighted when the car is less and 100% clean...also, with fall season in full bloom in upstate NY our fan for the climate control has been clogged 2times and will sound like a jetplane when turned on, ACURA states this is a "normal trait" to the TL's climate system and will probably clog again...the front seats make tons of strange noises...the sunroof when fully opened vibrates...ABS brake sensor replaced...and seals around the front windshield coming off.

    None of these small inconveniences have left us stranded, but we CERTAINLY have come to expect more from Acura, we have owned several since 1986.

    One other small complaint I have is the TL's Xenon headlights. Comparing them to our RL they are note the same. The RL's appear to us to be brighter, and remain "bluish" during the entire time they are on, the TL's are blue for 30 seconds and then appear almost halogen from inside the car, also the RL's xenons seem to pick up sign reflectors better than the TL's. I know this may seem trivial to some, but to us they are not the same type bulbs, and have become spoiled by the RL's xenon headlights. Anyone have any feedback on the 02 ES xenon bulbs?
  • rebelskrebelsk Posts: 65
    I am trading in my Acura RL for the 2002 ES 300 and was wondering how you compared the two cars in terms of comfort as well as performance.
  • lenscaplenscap Posts: 854
    I think your message was meant for autos3. He's the one with an RL.
  • autos3autos3 Posts: 24
    What year is your RL? I feel our 00 RL is on
    par with the 02 ES. This says alot for the RL, which is 7 years into its current form. I look forward to my drive to work everyday with the RL. It is comfortable, solid, reliable, and yes, fun to drive, and with a killer stereo. Our new 02 ES has the ML sound system, but I think the BOSE system in the RL competes well.

    Neither the RL or 02 ES will win many drag races, but clearly, these cars are meant to be lux crusiers, not sports sedans. I believe with our 00 RL and 02 ES we have the best 2 entry-level lux sedans available, and if Acura introduces another rebate, ($5000.00 when we purchased our 00) on the 02, I will be the first
    in line at Northeast Acura to purchase another. I quess you can tell I love the RL.
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