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Mercedes-Benz S-Class



  • broonbroon Posts: 7
    I'm looking at trading my 2000 E430W4 for a Starmarked 1998 S500 that just came in off lease with 28xxx miles. Love everything about the 4Matic E class, but need more room for kids, stuff, etc. Don't like the new S and don't want to spend that much money. The 500 I'm looking at doesn't have ESP, unfortunately.

    Any drawbacks to this trade you can think of, money issues aside? Would be giving up 4Matic, ESP, and TeleAid, but not sure how much they'd be missed. I think the S500's weight and ASR should make it perform well enough in the limited winter we have here in Missouri.

    Appreciate your input.
  • All I can say is that the former S class model is the flagship of the Mercedes line. It is without question the "king of the road".

    I absolutely love its room and road worthiness.
    I like you chose it over the E class because I wanted absolute safety, size and road presence.

    I think that once you own one you will be a true believer in this S class as The True Classic Mercedes Experience !

  • rexconde1rexconde1 Posts: 278
    So you did it.. Got the CL500...

    I'll post that pic of the CLK, I got the pics back a couple days ago.

    To all I wish a Gutfahrt,
  • I have had a few problems with my 2001- S430 that I took delivery on Nov.2000 in Scottsdale. I have listed them on a previous post. Most have been solved to my satisfaction EXCEPT for the SMELLY A/C !!!! The car has been in several times and they have replaced the heater box assembly and the drier ,but used all the rest of the original parts to put it back together. I am still getting a MAJOR NOXIOUS VINEGAR SMELL. I use the car almost every day. It is the worst when I first turn on the A/C, and then sometimes it goes away, but most times it lasts the entire time the A/C is on. I am told by the dealer (who really doesn't know what to say) its "perculiar to AZ" in that its some type of mold and fungus that is growing in the system due to our weather. (But our weather is dry?) After reading other posts of people with SMELLY A/c's, it seems that people with Cadillac's and Toyota's in other cities (Florida) , are also having this problem. It has been suggested that the mold is growing NOT in the heater box, but in the DUCTS and or EVAPORATOR COILS or CONDENSER COILS . To spray lysol into the outside vents only masks the problem and doesn't get rid of it. It has been suggested that TRUE OZONE may get rid of the fungus and mold but too much would also RUIN the interior. Others have suggested shooting CO2 into the vents. I am at my wits end, and I am seeing the dealer again on Fri. This has never happened in a car I have owned. I have lived in Michigan, Washington State, Hawaii, Florida and now Arizona. I previously owned a 97 E420 and never had this problem in Hawaii or Washington which is where mold and mildew are a way of life. Apparently this problem is not unique to Mercedes, or Arizona. However, the fact that this is happeneing in the most expensive car I have ever purchased is really very upsetting! Especially since it started happening within the first 5 months of ownership. If anyone else has experienced this problem or really KNOWS of a solution PLEASE let me know! Thanks a lot!
  • broonbroon Posts: 7
    I totally agree with you...took the S500 home last night for wife to check it out...she hated it, said I could only have it if she got to keep the E430. No deal. :-(
  • shoesshoes Posts: 131
    I am looking forward to Robert's photo of the new CLK, which we saw just prior to driving on the Mercedes test track in a BUS. I was so excited I forgot to take off my lens cap and never got the photo.

    Hey Robert, tell your Dad he needs to get that CL55, it is head and shoulders above the E-55 in terms of quality. He is a mature guy like me and will appreciate the ride more.
  • I live in Phoenix too and we have the smelly AC problem with our 2001 Yukon XL. My 2001 740iL doesn't, (so far). Check the Suburban/Yukon XL and Tahoe/Yukon sections under the SUV board. There have been lots. Our Yukon XL just started this, I haven't tried to fix it yet, but I checked the interior air filters and they and the evaporator were completely clean and fungus/mold free...joe
  • Would someone please tell me how much does 1 cd for my naivgation system will cost? I'm very upset to pay that much for a navigation system and still have to buy cds.
  • benznutbenznut Posts: 104
    I just saw an S500 today that blew me away. It had 19 or twenty inch chrome AMG (i believe) tires, no AMG body kit. The front end was modified though. The star, instead of sitting above the hood, was in "alla CL" fashion in the middle of the mascarine. The star was not as big as those in the CL, it had a diameter of about 3.5 inches. It looked extremely nice, even though I am not a fan of tricks like that. The EBnz looked really nice.
  • Mlbames:

    I was upset too about MB's penny pinching tactics too. I believe all these "small" things will help erode MB's competitive edge.

    Anyway, I was quoted by my dealer that it would cost $150 per CD. He then talked me into buying the new kit that includes 11 CDs (9 CDs for US & 2 CDs for Canada) for $300.

    As much as I love driving my S500. I gave this round on Navigation System to Lexus430.
  • Thanks!!!!!!! I agree with you 100%. I would had rather brought the cds up front then to be nickel and dime to death!
  • rexconde1rexconde1 Posts: 278
    Did it have the Eyes of the CL? or the standard S-Class Eyes?

    IT could have been the Brabus Version of the S-Class.
  • benznutbenznut Posts: 104
    It had the standard S class eyes, which in my opinion are far better than anything else mercedes has. It was not a Brabus model, hence the normal badge S 500. Also, it had no sport package at all, just the standard S class trim. One thing I noticed was that it had extensive wood treatment (burl walnut, with a black interior) in the center console, armrest, steering wheel and cupholders. The interior was absolutely gorgeous.
    The grill, i have to say was unique, in that it made the Benz sedan look like a coupe. The standard S class grille with the 4 inch star in the middle looked as if factory-made, and looked extremely nice. I only wish the three pointed star was a little bigger. Atop the grille, where the traditional star usually sits, was just the mercedes emblem that you would find in the same spot at the CL coupe, since the stick-up star was deleted. The tires were chrome, AMG i believe, thin five spoke, really huge, with very low profile tires. While the tires looked the nicest I ad ever seen, I am doubtful as to the sacrifice in the ride.
  • Mercedes claims they have a new type of filter for the A/C. They put this new filter in my S430 on Fri. Oct.5. My car has been ODOR FREE since that time!!!!!! FINALLY!!!!
  • Vinegar smell is back. Well, I had 6 nice days of fresh smelling a/c. Will continue to look for a solution!
  • sshowittsshowitt Posts: 137
    My sister is looking for a 2000/01 S class sedan with low mileage in either the NYC area or the Palm Beach area, any leads, please feel free to e-mail me with the information, i.e. pricing, mileage, colors, 430/500 options and pricings.
    Thanks Steven
  • benznutbenznut Posts: 104
    The new 7 from BMW looks appealing with all the innovations, and other than the rear end, the styling really grows on you. however, nothing is going to make me get over the S-class sedan. The Benz is just too beautiful of a car, top notch comfort, sporty and innovaative. My favorite if money was no object: S600!!!
  • benznutbenznut Posts: 104
    I have recently read that the V12 in the new SL 600 that will come in about a year will have 406 hp instead of the current 362. I take this power bump will apply to the rest, so the S600 and CL600 will also have that much power. Is there anything in the press that can confirm this? This certainly would make good sense, with the BMW 760iL having 408 hp. When would this update take place?
    Waiting for responses, Thank you!
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Well Mercedes' engine plans aren't clear to me anymore. They used to follow a very strict and logical progression. Now I don't know. They have a new 6.3L version of the new V12 that develops 440hp, but that still doesn't touch the new 476hp of the 5.5L Supercharged V8. It has been confirmed that new AMG V12 will be installed in the CL and S cars to make the CL63 and S63. Nobody knows if they'll replace the regular "600" version of these cars or will they sit atop the S and CL range? Assuming the S55 and CL55 don't get the new supercharged version of the V8 they already have. It's a big mystery right now. I do like all these new engines though. The current 600 and 55 cars are too close in power right now anyway.

  • benznutbenznut Posts: 104
    I doubt the S/Cl63 will replace the 600s in the flagship positions. As refined as these engines may be, they still are "tweaked", which menas that they are probably not as smooth and quiet as the regual V12. I doubt MB will want to take those attributes away from its flagships. They might offer them like the 55s, as a performance version. Therefore, I do not think the supercharged version of the AMG V8 will find its way in these models.
    However, as you said, there is no way to understand what they are thinking. They might have the 63s as "special" models which may be offered just to high heeled buyers in europe.
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