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Mazda MPV

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  • strange3strange3 Posts: 14
    about the rental vehicles, although I was initially told the one I drove was part of a "sales fleet", not a rental. I found out it was a rental from carfax. I took it home overnight and noticed a fender had been repainted too. The dlr and carfax didn't mention this.

    I think we'll pull the trigger later this month on a new '03 LX. Did you take advantage of $2k cash back and/or 0% financing to get the $20,600 price? Thanks!
  • mchuchramchuchra Posts: 25
    To get the $20,600 price, I negotiated a below "invoice" price and then subtracted out the $2k dealer dollars on top of that. I did not get the 0% Mazda financing with this deal. At that price, that was not available, apparently. There's only so much you can squeeze them!
  • sweet_subiesweet_subie Posts: 1,394
    see that MPV both LX & EX costs 4,000 to 5,000 less than MSRP..

    Here is a fixed price dealer near DC.
    http://www.fitzmall.com/carfind/search.asp?lstMake=MAZDA

    showing this to any dealer would embarass them & weaken their negotiation position.
  • audia8qaudia8q Posts: 3,138
    What if the dealer says..."go to washington dc to buy the car".....who would be in the weaker position then?
  • sweet_subiesweet_subie Posts: 1,394
    See the internet delivered price option at this dealer......i think he will deliver to you with some shipping charges....

    as long as you are like 10 hrs within DC area....may be it is a worth a trip ! no hassle nothing just buy the car & happily drive back home, pay tax in CT(where you live) !

    or you can haggle with the local dealer...? which one sounds better to you ?
    BTW, i can easily embarrass the dealer with that & i have !
  • lsinclsinc Posts: 270
    We just purchased an '03 MPV LOADED. Moon roof, 6 cd changer, towing package, appearance package, traction control, auto sliding doors. We purchased it for $100 under dealer invoice and also took the $2000 cash back. With our trade and taxes etc. added on, we walked out the door with the van for just over $22,000. I think we did really well. This was done under the S Plan and was probably the easiest car purchase I ever made.
  • tccmn1tccmn1 Posts: 278
    Just a note to update everyone on my MPV Experience. So far, 2500 miles and lovin' it!
    Don't care about the screw up on the audio deal...learning to live with the LX version of the top of the line stereo system instead of the SUPER STEREO SYSTEM.
    Only thing I notice is the higher rpms the engine seems to idle at. Sometimes it sounds like it's really rev'd up. Tach shows about 700 rpms at idle, which is suppose to be correct...maybe my fan is running all the time too causing a rush sound? I'll check that issue out. Otherwise, mpg holding around 20 in the city. I love driving this thing more than my wife's 99 Camry now. My wife is too timid to drive the MPV..she doesn't want to put the first scratch on it...hee-hee.

    Wish there was a light on dash that would come on when FOGS are on...not sure why they don't have that. It's easy to forget their on after a while. They have a light for TCS, OD, etc.

    LSINC: I think the $22K out the door price with a trade is pretty good. Mine was $26,300 out door with no trade - loaded LX much like the one described PLUS $1600 Ext.Warr. and hitch. Sold my old 95 DC Mini for $3K, so that would be approx.to your deal. I got the $2.5K cash back at the time in Feb..
  • sweet_subiesweet_subie Posts: 1,394
    TCS works very well in boston snow area...for my 02 MPV.....
    but i must say ford engine is a bit noisy !
  • acedriveracedriver Posts: 131
    Congrats on your great MPV deal!! Here is what I was quoted:

    2003 LX MPV with 6 disc, 4 seasons package, and a roof rack, power doors, trac control, dual air.
    With the $2000 rebate is $22,151 + TTL,Reg

    With your deal, the quote which I got seems higher. Could you specify your options in detail i.e what do the towing/appearance pkg contain ?
  • dwsmhadwsmha Posts: 35
    Is this a good deal? $1,223 for a 7year/100,000 mile full extended warranty from CNA? Been debating on an extended warranty since we have the factory-installed DVD player, and it sits outside alot. (Not sure what the years of heat/cold will do to the DVD player)
  • sweet_subiesweet_subie Posts: 1,394
    1.
    pricing is good only if it is 0 deductible. I received the same 7 yr/100k warranty with 0 ded for $1200.

    2.
    frankly, i regret taking that warranty. one of the best things about MPV is it is cheaper than others....if you pay $1200, then you are jackng-up the price

    with MPV finish(after owning for 2 yrs), no need to pay that much extra....it is really a trouble-free van !
  • sweet_subiesweet_subie Posts: 1,394
    can anyboday help me out with a good navigation system that is made & fitted for my 02 MPV ???
  • bottgersbottgers Posts: 2,027
    I placed my MPV order 3-4 weeks ago. I was told by the dealer that mine was scheduled for an early May build date. Should I be worried that our build date will get pushed back to June?
  • tomj5tomj5 Posts: 209
    We ordered in Feb. We are supposed to get it next week maybe.... This is the third delay...
    Figure 12 weeks for an order. If it gets stuck on the docks for more installations add two more weeks. Dealer says factory is maxed out.
    TJ
  • I know that the van is small, but can it hold flat sheet material, it doesn't have to fit flat but I need something that I can haul the occational sheet of plywood or drywall.

    Thanks in advance
  • rutger3rutger3 Posts: 361
    IMO, extended warranties are mostly a profit maker for the mfg. The MPV is very reliable. You are purchasing a 'life insurance' policy for a worst case scenario. Why give more to them then you have to. Sure the engine or tran could go,but the chances are very slim.
     Why wait for a made to order vehicle when there are so many on the lot to choose from. You can also usually get a better price on an in stock vehicle since it is costing the dealer every day it is on their lot. I like to see what I am getting before buying,plus no hassels with delays which always seem to happen on factory orders.
  • lsinclsinc Posts: 270
    Here is what we got: '03 MPV LX - 4 season package, GFX package (sporty front and rear fascias; side sill extensions, traction control and side air bags package, roof rack, rear bumper step plate, wheel locks, CFC-free rear air and heat with front and rear controls, power sliding rear doors, power sliding moon roof with retractable sunshade (the moon roof also tilts up which I didn't realize until we bought it), In-dash 6 disc CD changer. We have the grey cloth seats and the exterior color is Sunlight Silver Metallic.

    The total MSRP was $27,085
    Our S Plan Price $24,803

    Under the S Plan it was $100 under dealer invoice. We also took the $2000 cash back instead of the 0% financing so that brought it down to $22,803 out the door before trade in and taxes etc. They gave me a whopping :o $1,800 for my '95 Mercury Villager that had 103,000 miles on it.

    I hope this helps. I have to say that it was easy, no negotiating over price. I love my MPV and am glad that we chose it over the Sedona and the Honda. The Honda is way over rated and they are getting to be like the Chrysler MV's in that every other MV is a Honda. The Sedona is a really nice MV and the price is awesome. We just don't trust KIA at this point and I didn't like the fact that the Sedona doesn't have the tumble under third row seat and ABS is an option. It also get's awful gas mileage and I have heard that any body repairs are costly.

    My 2 cents; I really feel for a small family (2 kids) looking for a 5 star rated vehicle in safety and great reliability the MPV is the way to go.
  • acedriveracedriver Posts: 131
    Can someone enlighten me what is the S-Plan or E-Plan which I keep reading about ? Is there any link to the Mazda website describing it ?
  • tomj5tomj5 Posts: 209
    Dealers in Arizona have only have ugly white and weird color(Ok if you are color blind) stripped plane Jane cars. That is why you order.... (When I was looking in Feb)
    TJ
  • lsinclsinc Posts: 270
    The S Plan is offered through the Ford Partner Recognition Program. For instance the company my husband works for has ties to another company that get's fleet cars (company cars) through Ford. Since Ford engines are what runs the MPV, we were eligable for the S Plan. The E Plan I know nothing about. My guess is that it is for employees of Ford/Mazda??
  • hucksterhuckster Posts: 1
    Ace, is the GFX package a readily available package? I too can use the X plan and after getting over my mental hump of driving a minivan I really like the MPV. We are in a Volvo V40 wagon now and love that car but w/3rd kid expected need the seats. I think the MPV offers all the "neat" stuff that the Honda comes with (big thing is that rear seat that disappears)and the middle seats that can be a bench or split. Compared to Honda and new Toyota (love the new Sienna) is seems to be a value. Is it a cheap car? The Sienna was impressive but way over priced for the high end options plus no S plan disc. Your comments?
  • acedriveracedriver Posts: 131
    I think my company has some Ford partner discount too. I will look into it - Thanks Isinc.

    Huckster: The GFX package was not on the quote which I got. I think you wanted to ask the question to Isinc !
  • lsinclsinc Posts: 270
    You are more then welcome! :) Keep us posted and Good Luck!
  • lsinclsinc Posts: 270
    The GFX Package is easy to get. It just enhances the way the MPV looks making it more sporty looking. I have parked next to MPV's that don't have it and feel mine is a sportier looking van. It's kind of funny, I didn't want to drive a mini van and before my Villager we had a sedan which was bright red with oversized tires - very sporty. Even with two kids, we outgrew it but I have to say I held on until the very last possible moment. Now, I love my minivan and wouldn't drive anything else.

    The MPV is cheaper price wise then its counterparts. I was able to test drive an Odyssey for 2 days. It was an '02, very bare bones - i.e. no power sliding doors, no cd player, no traction control. Because of the popularity of the Ody it was priced at $25,000. Granted it only had 6K miles on it but I still think that is high. I still don't get what all the broohaha is over the Ody. I didn't like the way it handled. The rear end felt swishy. The Sedona felt the same way.

    Anyway, I'm getting carried away. You can get a very loaded MPV for less then the Ody or the Sienna. The MPV is very well put together. No cheap interior items and it has 10 cup holders and the flip up tray inbetween the front seats. If you go to the Mazda website you can actually build an MPV with all of the options you want and it will give you a pretty accurate ball park price. I think it's simply Mazda.com.

    The other thing I wanted to tell you is that some people say that the MPV is too small especially if you need the third seat. I have to say that with the "well" that the third seat folds into, you can get quite a bit of stuff stowed in the back. My Villager was bigger then the MPV but I can get more in the back with all of the seats in place.

    When we were shopping for our MPV all I really wanted was the roof rack and the Moon Roof. Our MPV had the auto sliders and I have to say that I love this feature. You can open them 3 ways; with the keyless entry, from the inside or if you just pull up on the door handle they open. You can also push a button to shut the feature off and use them manually. It's a very nice feature when you have kids. I also like the second row seats being apart. I can actually move from the front to the back of the van with ease.

    Wow, I do get carried away. Sorry it's so long! Yikes! Good Luck!
  • sweet_subiesweet_subie Posts: 1,394
    i agree with everything you said.........if i can get all this with HOnda/toyota engine - that would be the best.........

    still this ford 200hp struggles a bit & a little noisy esp. in idling......
  • lsinclsinc Posts: 270
    Just my two cents. I don't find that the engine in the MPV struggles at all. It has more power then my Villager had. I also find it to be a quiet engine and the shifting is very smooth. We do have the towing package so maybe that's why??
  • tomj5tomj5 Posts: 209
    Very interesting observations. I agree on the ody and toy. Nice cars but not that nice for the prices..
    I ordered the 4 seasons for the extra cooling. The major weakness of Fords is too small cooling systems.
    According to my perferred shop mechanic, we just bought Fords. I hope he is wrong....

    TJ
  • mxylplik2mxylplik2 Posts: 19
    Did this expire? I can't find this anywhere on the incentives and rebates section of this website for the MPV.

    I only see the special financing rates. If it did expire, any chance it will come back? When?

    Thanks.
  • eddie777eddie777 Posts: 33
    Very impressed . . .

    I think it had good acceleration; I think the power is adequate now with the 200 horses. I can see how the old 170 horses might not have been enough.

    I thought the build quality was very good. It had a very refined look and feel. The nice thing about a 4 or 5 yr old model is the maker has had a lot of time to refine it and work out any bugs.

    And as anyone who has an MPV already knows, it comes in a nice compact size. We have two kids, and the space it has is more than enough for us. Why buy more space than you really need? You'll just have a harder time finding parking.

    My only reservation is that Ford Duratec. Yes I know this has been beaten to death, but I still second what sweet_subie says: put a Honda or Toyota engine in this baby. To me it will then be the near-perfect MV.
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