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  • I experienced a similar problem a few years ago with my 2000 MPV. In my case it was an interlock that interfaces with the ignition switch. In my case the switch would go to the off-lock position if i disconnected the battery. I also note that there is a small cap on the plastic steering column cover above the ignition switch. Te cap should pop out and this should provide access to release the interlock manually and then you should be able to turn off the key. I believe the repair cost was ~$150 at the dealer. Although they originally tried to sell me an ignition switch, they eventually did the honorable thing and just replaced the interlock.
  • buzzkbuzzk Posts: 15
    we had the same problem w/our 2004 MPV; code reader [98 bucks from chain discount store - well worth it!] said it was #1 cylinder [most exposed to rain]; I pulled it, as it can be easily reached, & in my judgement the design was blisteringly stupid; it had a VENT hole, for cryin' out loud!! that is SILLY! - lets rain vapors get in there & short out the spark. I've worked on other, similar systems o&o over the years & they ALWAYS sealed the spark plug well against moisture; I cleaned it & plugged it w/silcone,which stopped the problem. then I got a complete set of new coils off e-bay [cheap] which seal around the raised lip at the top of the plug well in the normal, rational, manner & have not had the problem return. [we love the car but have other problems at this time - will ask abt them in a different blog]. Get new coils which are configured to cover, & seal, the raised lip at the top of each spark plug well. they're a pain to install due have to remove intake manifold, but,w/patience, easily done. it's worth it.

    Cheers, BK
  • tcc21tcc21 Posts: 69
    I've blogged on here in the past too about this issue. Everytime I drive my 2003 in a heavy rain or it sits out in a heavy rain, it has the stumble problem as your's had.
    I too went to a local garage and the replacement would be around $200 plus or minus a few with labor. It is the one in front that has the issue on mine. Sounds like you dug right in and got them all fixed with a better method too. It is just nuts that they had this design on all these MPV's! Common sense was not in their vocabulary among some other things on this vehicle!
    Like trying to change the rear license plate lights, or the headlight on the drivers side or other marker lights in front. Why can you not override the auto dimmer of the inside lights to keep them on?? They turn off after 3 minutes and then you have to shut all the doors and open again to start the time cycle over again - bizarre!
    And a kicker one - up thru 2003 - no auto door lock/unlock button on the passenger door! I've had power locks for 25 years and have always had a button on the passenger door as well as the drivers door in my Chrylser, Chevy, Dodge cars! Ugh!
  • jipsterjipster Posts: 5,345
    I bought a brand new 2001 MPV at your dealer Dufferin Mazda. At the same time, the dealer also sold me at $600 a life time rust protection program. During annual check of last year, the dealer found rust on my car and then point me to the provider of the coating product. Eventually, I got a written letter from the provider after their own check, saying no their product had been applied onto my car.

    The rust protection company was the provider, and they didn't provide the rust protection? They owe you a refund on whatever their take was from the dealership. Sue them in small claims if they do not reimburse you. Permaplate is the party you should go after. Might try calling the BBB as well.
  • I have been deceived by a Mazda dealer for years. I complained the case to Mazda Canada but no response. Second time I started with info request about a book so I built a connection with it, then I asked for help to deal with the dealer. But it quickly turned me off. See the communication between it and me.

    Did any one have similar experience and an idea how to have the dealer to compensate my loss?

    The following is the communication between (in a reverse order); and all email addresses and phone numbers are removed according to the policies here.
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    Subject: RE: General Inquiries [INTR:076385]
    Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 06:28:00 -0700
    Hello Mr. Jiang,

    Upon reviewing your correspondence, it is regrettable to be informed of your negative experiences with Manpreet Moti. We appreciate any feedback our customers have about Mazda dealerships and we do review each concern carefully with the dealership's Management, however, matters between yourself and the dealership must be resolved with the dealership. We can review your feedback internally, but to have a matter addressed, you will need to address it with the dealership. Further, if your concerns are regarding a dealership which no longer exists, then we are unable to review further, as there is no one to review with, nor can there be any improvements made since the dealership is no longer in existance.

    Should you have any feedback with regards to your current dealings with Yorkdale Dufferin Mazda, we would be pleased to have you share this with us. Our reviews are internal with the dealership and as such, your matters will still need to be addressed directly with the dealership, but we appreciate your feedback.

    Regards,
    Mazda Canada Inc.

    Subject : RE: General Inquiries [INTR:076385]
    Date : Thu, 29 Oct 2009 04:08:23 GMT
    Dear Mr. Mazda,

    I can understand your dealerships are not your subsidiary companies. But are there any regulations to regulate their behaviors especially when come to your consumers?

    I doubt the change of ownership of Dufferin Mazda dealership is just a game to evade its responsibility.
    Why does it continuously check my car every year without notice of this change?
    They promised they would contact the PermaPlate (provider of antirust coating material) and let PermaPlate send a person to my garage to fix the rust when they found the rust. Later, manager Manpreet Moti always said she would contact their person inside PermaPlate to resolve my case. Every time when I finally reached her, she always said 'busy busy' and promised would call me back very soon, even once said within 15 mins, but she never did even once. She asked me all documents and personal info every time but never gave me any words in written.. Moreover she used to suddenly hang up the line claiming I was recording the talk.

    She never responded to my messages and emails. She never picked up my call before my several attempt and hours' waiting on line.

    Do you accept this kind of dealers as your terminal sensors to your customers? Do you acknowledge these fraud and rascal behaviors? Will you still just await there and see how this evolves on?

    Wish you do somethings to protect your image.

    James Jiang

    Subject: RE: General Inquiries [INTR:076385]
    Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 11:19:29 -0700
    Hello Mr. Jiang,

    Unfortunately, we are unable to provide information regarding Dufferin Mazda due to privacy regulations and we are unable to forward your concerns to Dufferin Mazda, as we no longer have any ties with them. Further, please note that Mazda dealerships are independently owned and operated.

    Regards,
    Mazda Canada Inc.

    ---- Original Message ----

    Subject : RE: General Inquiries [INTR:076385]
    Date : Tue, 27 Oct 2009 17:53:30 GMT

    Thank you, Sir.

    Please provide me some info about your dealer Dufferin Mazda, like owner name, phone number or email, so I can contact him or her. Or forward my message to him or her, let him or her contact me.

    We like this car. We brought life time rust program and life time oil change and maintenance program for the car as well. Please help to solve the case so we could still consider Mazda next choice and recommend to friends.

    James

    Subject: RE: General Inquiries [INTR:076385]
    Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 06:53:49 -0700
    Hello Mr. Jiang,

    It is regrettable to be informed of your situation with the rust protection. Unfortunately, Mazda Canada does not offer any form of additional rust protection or coverage and would not have any information on this. You would have to review with the rust protection company and the Management at Yorkdale Dufferin Mazda. We recommend your direct contact with the General Manager, Mr. Subhojit Das (people call him Das) at XXX-XXX-XXXX, as he would be in the best position to determine if Yorkdale Dufferin Mazda is able to assist you. We can confirm that Yorkdale Dufferin Mazda is under different ownership and Management than Dufferin Mazda and as such, records belonging to Dufferin Mazda are likely unavailable to Yorkdale Dufferin Mazda.
    Regards,
    Mazda Canada Inc.

    ---- Original Message ----

    Subject : RE: General Inquiries [INTR:076385]
    Date : Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:26:28 GMT

    Thank you, sir.

    I will contact them for the book.

    Here is another issue. To simplify it is:

    I brought a brand new 2001 MPV at your dealer Dufferin Mazda. At the same time, the dealer also sold me at $600 a life time rust protection program. During annual check of last year, the dealer found rust on my car and then point me to the provider of the coating product. Eventually, I got a written letter from the provider after their own check, saying no their product had been applied onto my car.

    Now the dealer says that the owner changed and cannot find any records about the application of the product, and refuses to issue any paper as required by the provider, neither do anything to fix the rust.

    Right now, the dealer has a new name Yorkdale Dufferin Mazda. The others are same.

    Can you tell me what should I do and what can you do?

    James Jiang

    Subject: RE: General Inquiries [INTR:076385]
    Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:05:35 -0700

    Hello Mr. Jiang,

    To locate your nearest Mazda dealership, please visit: http://mazda.ca/eng/dealers/dealerlocator.asp. Based on the provided postal code, your nearest dealership is Scarboro Mazda. Speak to the Parts Department.

    Regards,
    Mazda Canada Inc.

    ---- Original Message ----
    Subject : RE: General Inquiries [INTR:076385]
    Date : Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:56:43 GMT

    Hello Sir,

    I have attempted several places but nothing found. I am living at M2J (postal code). Can you tell me where (Address and phone number) I can purchase it for my 2001 MPV LX ?

    Thank you.

    James Jiang

    Subject: RE: General Inquiries [INTR:076385
  • buzzkbuzzk Posts: 15
    we got a full factory shop manual from Mazda when we bought the car. Unlike manuals for our Toyota or our Subaru, the price was reasonable [I think it was abt $100.00 + or - & it's one large book]. VERY detailed, tho occasionally the trouble-shooting sections are not very realistic... but, IMHO [do most of my own work] WELL worth having...

    BTW so far the shift problem was fixed adequately by a software flash done for free by the dealer [after we found out abt it from a private owner - Mazda NEVER notified us!!!!] & the throttle position sensor cut out the engine but didn't give a code on either of my code readers [check engine light stayed OFF] had to use old fashioned reasoning & experimenting to get the hint it was the problem. The truely idiotic spark coil seals, that allow water in the plug well & short out the spark, were replaced by reasonable priced coils I got from ebay that have a [heaven forbid!] normal, rational, effective seal that prevents water entry.. the factory system is so utterly idiotic it beggars the mind.. they actually designed in a VENT!! which, of course allows water & particularly atomized water or steam from hot engine in rainstorm to enter & trash the spark [see my other posts] I'd advise NEVER use OEM coils unless they've improved the design. In any case, good luck!

    Cheers, BK
  • buzzkbuzzk Posts: 15
    A few yrs back I saw quite a lot of issues w/rust in almost of the major automobile brands; at least a major portion of it was caused by DEALERS selling aftermarket so-called corrosion prevention systems [ofetn quite a few hundred dollars - cost the dealer very little, like the upholstery "stain prevention" systems & "pinstriping"] not endorsed -or even desired- by the manufacturers; As I rercall, at one point Honda corp was quite unhappy w/problems caused by this; besidess being often truely un-needed, they also often gunked up the drain chanels all companies put in to prevent water accumulation, CAUSING [dirty?, salty w/road salt?] water retention &, in turn, causing the corrosion they were sold to prevent. Certainly other manufacturers also had this issue. On top of that if such were sold a lot in a given town, it would "prove" rust is a problem in that climate w/many brands of cars, giving a "reason" to sell even more harmful "rust protection." something to think about next some slick talking dealer's salesman tries to sell you a car. - Check w/the manufacturer before buying such garbage.
    Our 2004 MPV appears to have litle if any rust - the chanel in the bottom of the sliding door opening has a rather silly plastic drain plug w/a tiny flap that is easily stopped up to the point of uselessness - easy to remove, once you find it, [front of the chanel] to stop water accumulating & sloshing there... & we have NO aftermarket so-called "corrosion prevention" system..

    Cheers, BK
  • My 2002 MPV has served me well but the miles are high and I'm beginning to look for a replacement. If there were such a thing as a new MPV, I'd buy one in a heartbeat. Since there isn't: What the closest thing to an MPV now? I have tried a Kia Rondo, Toyota Highlander; looked at Mazda5. Nothing comes close yet -- especially in hitting the "sweet spot" for size, utility and flat-floor capability with 2nd row seats removed.

    Suggestions?
  • jipsterjipster Posts: 5,345
    Well, you may try finding a lightly used 20006 MPV.
  • Yeah a 2006 MPV is like a newer and improved MPV and I always see nice 2006 MPV's with 30-40k miles for $7-10k.
  • jipsterjipster Posts: 5,345
    My wife really likes our 2004 MPV LX with around 68k miles. We would also look into buying a new one if they were still available. They really are a one of a kind minivan. Excellent quality. I think if Mazda brought it back, currently being sold in Japan, with better mpg, it would be a sales winner.
  • tcc21tcc21 Posts: 69
    I have a 2003 MPV and wanted to replace the burned out light in the rear heater/AC control panel in the back area. Found out you cannot replace the bulb in it. You need to BUY A WHOLE NEW ASSEMBLY for $170 - part only!!! Another dumb thing about these great little minivans! I'm not sold on the 'quality' aspect of these. I have 130K miles on mine and there have been some quirky things thru the years; the tranny, the catalytic converter going out, the water problems with a poor design of the coils/spark plug covers, bulb replacement issues - rear license plate - tear door apart to replace! Front suspension total replacement. Etc, Etc. Sorry, I'm not a believer in 'bring back the MPV to USA motto. I had two Dodge Caravans in the 90's and they were similar in quality to this unit overall. Oh yes, the premature rusting of the front door on the bottom and around the rear wheel wells!
  • jipsterjipster Posts: 5,345
    I have 130K miles

    That's a lot of miles for any car. The burned out light in the back area... not really needed. Agree coils were poorly designed... mechanically does have a few problem areas (mostly minor). Overall quality of materials, fit and finish, ride, handling are far above the Dodge Caravan.. and at least equal to that of the Sienna and Ody.

    Other than having 2 coils replaced under warranty, our MPV has been problem free (knock on wood). Still on original set of brakes. The good thing about future generations of any car or van is they have a chance to correct those problem areas.
    So, bringing the current generation of MPV to the U.S would be a good idea, provided they can increase mpg as noted in previous post.
  • aa0526aa0526 Posts: 27
    I have 133K miles ... drove it cross country at 122K.

    The problems I had are not minor - and have been due to 'wear'.
    1. Mass Airflow Sensor
    - This was frequenty misdiagnosed by many technicians as O2 sensor, coils, tranny etc. My friend's Sienna has his MAF frequently cleaned ... but after two cleanings, I finally replaced mine ... and the car runs like new again.

    2. Control Fan PCU assembly
    - There was a recall on this which I did avail of. So the lifespan of my control fan PCU is really only 70K ... which is on the low side but still attributable to the regular lifespan of an electronic pcu.
    - Now the car runs very quietly ... no more of the engine fan turning on/off which was quite noisy.

    BTW - 1 and 2 were replaced at 115K and 126K miles.

    Other than that - the rest were the regular maintenance issues.
    - Brakes - will have them replaced this week
    - Shocks and struts - will probably need one soon
    - Car battery
    - Spark plugs - replaced at

    I do use Mobil1 and do follow a 6,000-7,5000 mile interval.
  • tcc21tcc21 Posts: 69
    Thanks for the reply. However, I don't think 130K miles is a lot of miles on any car these days. I have many friends who think that it's in mid life at this point. Most are going for 200K miles. I guess I don't have friends who can replace cars every couple years like I use to. Kids in college, etc. Anyway; I do think it's nuts that you need to replace the whole assembly to have the control panel lit. My passengers in back can't find the controls during our long dark MN. winters! The Tranny issues, CATALYTIC CONVERTER REPLACEMENT? (minor?) are not reasonable issues. That coil design is not a cheap fix either and I hold my breath during every rain storm I drive in for it to happen again! 2003 was the 4th year of this unit and should have had some refinement by then. True the 2002 was the first year of the slightly revised model - new engine, front/back cosmetics and tranny.....but still! Don't get me wrong, the styling was why I bought the unit NEW over Toyota and Honda - plus it was $3K cheaper too. Maybe this is why? I'm hoping to get to 190K if possible. My Camry's - two of - had flipped the 200 mark and were good to go before I sold them.
  • tcc21tcc21 Posts: 69
    One more thing; the rust. My MPV showed signs of rust on the passenger lower lip within the first 24 months! Mazda did cover it with a lot of groaning at that time. They said that I would be on my own thereafter. Now, I may be picky, but rust on today's cars is becoming a very seldom thing. To have a virtually new car have the rust issues around those terrible joints in the metal and around the rear wheel wells is not right! I see many other MPV's from the 2000-2003 era here in MN. with rust in that wheel area. Sad method they used to wrap the metal in the lip of the well.

    Oh yes - one more item I've had - the rear heating coolant tubes that rusted totally away!! Mazda did cover their replacement but what the heck! When we pulled the liner out of the rear well we did not see ANYTHING there - the tubing was all gone! What are they thinking? I was losing coolant out the back for a while before I saw this item as a recall!
  • the driver side window just stop working. what do i do to fix it.
  • aa0526aa0526 Posts: 27
    Sorry ... my 2002 MPV has not had that problem ... well, I hardly use the windows anyway.

    But that sounds like an actuator issue or could be mechanical.
    Do u hear a sound when u press the up/down button?
    Are the gears engaging at all?

    If there is no activity at all, then the issue is not mechanical.
  • tcc21tcc21 Posts: 69
    My 2003 MPV's drivers window is VERY slow in the winter time - at going up. I had them check it a couple years ago and the dealer said it was the old 'normal' thing! Ugh! I swear some cold mornings - as I park in a ramp - mine won't go up either. It groans really hard. I heard that some Toyota Sienna's have had the same issue too!! WOW! The previous generation version. So, Mazda is not alone.
    I checked an 06 they had on the lot and it was a bit slow too...so it's the way they're made I guess.
  • My 2003 Mazda MPV ES with 88,700 miles on it has started idling very rough, but only when warmed up. It starts in the cold fine and runs great after that, except for idling. My check engine light is on and the codes are P0171 and P0174, System Too Lean Bank 1 and Bank 2.

    The Auto Zone guy (who read the codes for me) told me it is probably the O2 sensors but another forum said it might be a vacuum leak. Thoughts?
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