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Toyota Echo

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  • sluglineslugline Posts: 391
    Keep in mind that buyers in the Phillipines have a different array of cars available for purchase, but I thought the ECHO-lovers here might find this review of the 1.3L five-door hatch interesting:

    http://www.carz.com.ph/test_mar01.htm
  • janbeejanbee Posts: 127
    I dont know if it was the U.S. or Canadian Toyota site but it had a maintaince schedule on it...check it out...I think it was in the owners section (I have a feeling it was the Canadian site I saw it in but Im sure they would have it somewhere on the U.S. site)
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    The US site does not have the maintenance schedule. Your car should have come with a book covering that. Service intervals are at 5000 miles or 7500 depending on driving conditions. I personally, suggest 3000 or 5000.
  • janbeejanbee Posts: 127
    As I was waiting at a red light, I turned my wipers on to wash my windows. there was a leaf draggin along the drivers side wiper so I opened my window and grabbed the leaf as the wiper passed upwards, well I musta grabbed the wiper along with the leaf cause the wiper went way up over the side pillar that runs along the window. It ended up leaving a scratch along the pillar and now the one wiper doesnt work. It seems like it snapped out of place. A buddy of mine is a mechanic at honda, so if it doesnt rain tomorrow Ill get him to look at getting it to work again, but how will i get rid of that scratch?? And do you think the wiper will be more than just snapping into place???
  • kaz6kaz6 Posts: 331
    Thanks for the link to the review! It pretty much sums up my feelings about my Echo! It's amazing how much power there is past 2nd gear!!!
    Cliffy, what is your recomendation based on? I was told that the owner's manual/schedule of maintenance has to pass muster with legal so the mileage recomendations are conservative...
    btw...how do you like your Tundra? My friends have one and rave about it!
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,683
    5k miles or four months:

    change oil and filter, rotate tires, inspect the following: air filter, ball joints, drive shaft (boots) brake linings, steering linkage and boots, nuts and bolts on chassis and body

    at 15k intervals do the above plus inspect the exhaust system. Hold a rag over the tailpipe with the engine running. If there is no back pressure you have a hole. Dont let pressure build up for long though or you could blow the muffler off!) also: inspect brake lines and hoses

    30 k miles or two years: 5 k service plus: replace air filter, replace coolant (I dont know about this one, Toyota says the car comes with "long life" coolant, but two years is a normal drain interval) replace spark plugs (but you can get platinuim ones that last 60k) replace manual trans oil, inspect fuel tank cap gasket, inspect fuel lines and fuel system for leaks. I would also suggest replacing brake fluid/clutch fluid at this point also, but the manual doesnt call for it.

    60k miles adjust valves
  • janbeejanbee Posts: 127
    well I got my mechanic friend to look at it, and it was sooo simple. all he did was take the cap off the base of the wiper and tighten the screw (I had no idea that this cap came off to reveal the screw) Now I just have this scratch about 1 1/2-2 inches on the drivers side pillar, he said it seemed quite deep and that I should take it to a body shop, and they would prob have to rebuff the whole drivers side pillar, my poor baby....I also noticed while washing the car today that in my right rear tail light I have a dead ladybug and in the left light is a dead bee...how the #$^% did they get in there?? LOL
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,683
    I took off the black plastic cover that goes over the valve cover yesterday in a futile effort to locate the block drain for the coolant system. (the SM shows the drain on the front of the block in one illustration and on the rear of the block in another) On the valve cover I found a fastener just like the ones that secure the plastic "tray" around the inlet vents to the interior which are just below the wipers. It seems the assemblers dropped this fastener onto the valve cover before installing the secondary cover. So for $13,100 (bottom line) I got an new ECHO AND a spare fastener! I wonder what else is in the car?
  • mccallrmccallr Posts: 19
    I purchased my 2001 5-sp, 4-dr, Echo last week and the only quirk I noticed was that you can't swing the passenger-side sin visor without hitting into the rear view mirror. The driver's side visor is fine. Does anyone else have the same problem? The only workaround is to unsnap the passenger side visor and move it around the rear view mirror before flipping it up or down. I'd appreciate any feedback. By the way, my first tank of gas resulted in 43.7 mpg (around town). I really enjoy the car.
  • lgoldinlgoldin Posts: 90
    Hi all. I am looking for the small car for my parents with the lowest cost of ownership for 4 years. I narrowed my choice to Elantra and Echo. Since I live in Canada and they live in Nebraska, I have no idea what should I expect there in terms of price. I am looking for 4 years lease automatic, with power lock. Can anyone from Omaha area suggest good dealer and what deal I can get there with 0 down?
    Your input would be really appreciated. Thanks.
  • I ended up letting my roommate drive my car last night. I figure after ten months of her sitting in the passenger seat, she should get to have some fun. And plus I only let her drive a mile.

    She prefers automatics and my Echo is a manual, but she was very pleased with how smoothly the shifting went.

    Don't tell her, but I think she drove the car better than I do.
  • I just turned 30,000 miles on my '00 and thought I'd check in. I'm averaging around 35 MPG in leadfooted short-distance commuting (around 10 miles one-way). I've had no problems whatsoever. The ECHO is just plain fun to drive (and to own) and I'm still in love with the car. If you're looking for a brilliant small car, this it it!

    Happy ECHOing!
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    I just distrust the ability of oil to do its job beyond 5K miles or 4 months. I suppose if you did exclusively highway driving, that might be different but for most users, that is not realistic. I guess its a personal preference, but I still do mine every 3K miles.

    As to the Tundra, I love it. My lease is up next year and I'm already planning on another one. There is nothing like in a pickup.
  • I have had my little red echo for exactly one year now. I love it as much as I did the first day. I have about 8,000 miles on it. Which I think is pretty low mileage for one year. I have taken it on two long distance trips and it did great. Only boo-boos I have had were a few paint chip spots from rocks thrown on my hood and one tiny ding in the drivers door that only I can see. This is a great car. Everyone who rides with me tells me how suprised they are with this great little car.
    Also, never ever get wax on the body cladding. I got Turtle Wax paste on it (actually my daughter did). Windex did not take it off, but rubbing alcohol did. However, it made the cladding look washed out, so I used Armor-All for rubber and plastic on it. The cladding looks showroom new.
    If you live in KC and drive an Echo,it is probably me that waves and honks when I see you in your Echo.
  • Where in the heck have you been? You have not posted in so long and neither has the other male Echo owner in KC.

    In case you are wondering this is the former Echoluvrst. Remember that I too live in Kansas City. I changed my name in honor of my Echo.

    Yes, I finally got my Echo. Not sure if you knew that or not. It is a 2001 in black sand pearl with four doors and a manual transmission. I have had it since the last weekend in December. Almost ten months and slightly over 16k miles. Still loving it.

    I have to go, but can I suggest one thing?

    STAY IN TOUCH AND NOT SO LONG BETWEEN POSTS.

    Happy Echoing.
  • kaz6kaz6 Posts: 331
    Cliffy, Consumer Reports did a study of motor oil in NYC taxicabs. What they found was that even with 7,000mi intervals there was no significant breakdown of viscosity nor engine wear.I believe they did 3k,5k, and 7k groups.
    They also reported that as synthetics go, Mobil 1 was the only one to provide added protection under extreme heat. They found other brands to be corrosive to the engine. I suppose that's why Porsche calls for Mobil 1 oil.
    I watch the color of my oil and the color does not seem darker at 5k intervals. I use Mobil 1 5-30.
    Btw, do you know if there will be any hatch versions of the Echo coming soon? I wish there was a 5-door available. Matrix looks good too.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    Call me old fashioned, but I'll continue to do my oil at 3 to 5K intervals and I lease mine.

    As to a possible hatch back, I haven't heard of anything in the ECHO line. There will be a Corolla coming this winter that will be a "sport wagon" version. I realize this isn't a hatch back, but will offer the benefits of one. It will be called the Matrix and there will be a couple of versions of it, including one with the 180 hp Celica GTS engine, 6 speed transmission and all wheel drive. I think there will be a more budget conscious variant as well. We'll have more details in December.
  • kaz6kaz6 Posts: 331
    As always, thanks for the info! Now if only the dealership I bought mine at were as helpful!
    Yes, I saw the Matrix but I think it's out of my price range for a small car. :(
    If anyone out there has upgraded to 15" wheels on their Echo, please let me know what you got and the results re: mpg and ride. As the Echo is so light to begin with, I'm thinking of buying plain steel wheels in larger size.
  • janbeejanbee Posts: 127
    If anyone is interested in one I saw one advertised on Ebay for $24.99...
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