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  • Here is what my mom said about the insurance:

    "It sounds high, however, there are other variables--his liability limits and deductibles. I f he has low deductibles the premium is going to be higher regardless of other factors. But still you are talking about $2500 per year and that seems out of line.

    A lot of people don't consider some things claims (which are) and others forget that there was another accident or claim."

    You might have known this already, but I thought I would pass it along.
  • azechoazecho Posts: 12
    Well, last week did I say it was bright and sunny?
    It has been sunny and raining and raining and raining....3 days in a row.. Hope we don't need a canoe...

    Well the echo was checked out for safety, to see whether it was safe enough to drive on the road after the wrecho. She checked out with a few minor adjustments. Still haven't replaced the tires, but they are coming...(goodcarma) the recall issue, we have to have the headquarters ok.. our service rep had a puzzled look maybe that's why he mentioned the skidding..... That we're also looking into, since it was made in the time frame. What have we got to lose?

    I have to admit... for being in a wrecho the Echo sure did well. The body just shifted, dent on the bumper,( actually its a hole) and the engine is doing great... a few plastic parts broken... but nothing to interfere... when we get the sliding issue conquered, I will be thoroughly impressed. She is back on the road till she goes in to get her body fixed.

    Echoluvrst. ...don't worry you'll be famous... they all be quoting your quote in agreement... I know there is a high performance school here in AZ, had a friend that was a mechanic for it. Was supposed to get an afternoon on the track(free!) and speed legally and it never transpired.... pout :( He quit to be a Mechanic on the Super truck series)... hm well. I was going to call and see what it cost to send my daughter.. But I am wondering, will she try to do what (shylocxs) did? Echo just zips and like (lynnanne 1) who was sooooo tempted to race what was that again? She won!

    djmick2 - it's got to be the 18 year old thing..
  • sonatafansonatafan Posts: 171
    Just a word of advice about the "wood" trim found on ebay. These kits are actually thin peices of plastic that you have to use a hairdryer and 3M adhesive to stick onto your dash and other areas. These are not made to any manufacturer standard and are definitly not endorsed or used by Toyota. The asking price on these is usually "$99 for what dealers charge $600!" but what they don't tell you is that what you get from the dealer usually takes the place of existing trim peices and has the wood grain sections permanently attached. Then again, some people like to put bumper stickers all over brand new cars too!
  • You live in KC? Cool! If you would, look at my profile and send me an email. Since I am still looking for a local dealer to buy my Echo, I would love to hear about your dealer experiences.
  • Azecho,

    The tax on e-mail is one of the oldest and longest lived hoaxes on the internet. That is the reason that big companies are not complaining.
  • sonatafansonatafan Posts: 171
    HA!!! They would have to rewrite the ENTIRE internet mailing system! They would have to try to reconcile multiple protocols and - how would you even begin to tell people they couldn't sign up for their millions of free anonymous email accounts each day! If they were going to do something like that it would have had to been started at the VERY beginning!
  • azechoazecho Posts: 12
    I had just received it the last time I posted... It was the first I had heard it!

    Thanks Echoluvrst and Sonatafan, for saving me from taking up a cause that wasn't there... So there isn't a prop whatever? HUH?

    By the way, someone had earlier mentioned scratches that showed black on the bumper of the echo... has anyone tried the touch-up paint Toyota offers that matches your car color, for the tiny booboos???
  • I used touch-up paint for my Seafoam blue Echo and it matches just fine.

    Mong1-I am also 24, I have a seafoam blue, 5 speed manual with body cladding and a spoiler. I think we have (or will have) basically the same car. I'm not a Chinese guy in Kansas, though:)
  • gaiffemgaiffem Posts: 11
    I cannot use my removable roof rack to mount my canoe on the Echo. The humped roofline isn't a problem, but the edges of the roofline are sloped just enough so that the clips on the roof rack don't hold. Pity :( So when I need to go canoeing I call my son and use his Camry. He doesn't mind since he then gets to borrow Dad's car again.

    I'm not sure how good an idea it would be having a canoe on the roof anyway. Adding more topside weight and more flat area for crosswinds (either natural or from the BIG trucks) could cause problems.

    While towing is not recommended for the Echo, if I had only one car available I'd strongly consider a lightweight trailer and hitch setup over roof mounting. The engine certainly has enough power and torque to handle a canoe and trailer. And with a manual transmission, proper shifting techniques would minimize any possibility of overheating the tranny. With an auto transmission, I'd be somewhat more careful about hills and the like. The only major issue I can see with a trailer setup is that with a light rear end, what would happen if a tire blew out on the trailer? Would it "whip" enough to tear the hitch off, or just make for a very interesting driving experrience? Hmmmm.

    That said, I think a trailer hitch on the back of an Echo would be safer than a roof mount with the added advantage that you'd be able to put a lightweight boat propeller on the hitch (when not actually towing)and explain to people that the additional thrust from its rotation gives you three more miles per gallon. ;)
  • sonatafansonatafan Posts: 171
    I have the black sand pearl paint and used my Toyota touch up paint on the rear bumper where someone scraped it (anonymously of course). The paint looks very good. I like the metallic flake type black paint on my car because it blends the touch up in better.
  • I am still looking for a dealer where to buy my car. I will definitely have to factory order my Echo since I want basically every bell and whistle (including ABS, but not power windows). I will post the color, body style, and option codes later on.

    I have been down to Kenny Thomas in Olathe where I took my test drive. I have also been to Superior Toyota and I have been in contact with Jay Wolfe Toyota, but have not been able to find the time to drive by. Jay Wolfe is closest to my house and has given me the best quote, but price and how I feel I will be treated after the sell is what will help me the most in determining a dealer. Recent ads make me want to look at Molle Toyota and Adams Toyota in Raytown. Thanks for the warning about the high documentation fee charged by Superior. That is one point I will be negotiating down at whatever dealer.

    You can ignore the comments about the Echo looking girly. Those comments were made by our resident pot stirrer and I think he was making those comments to get a reaction.

    Regarding the high insurance cost, how is your credit history? Most people don't know that bad credit can lead to higher insurance premiums. Really bad credit can lead to a denial of insurance in fact.

    After we get our Echos, would really love to meet you and MelodyEcho. Perhaps we can start a KC Echo car club or something. : )
  • I just had a chance to read the "new" review. I thought it was much better written and a lot less objectionable. I still object to the Civic being characterized as larger. The Civic is larger in one or two categories, but overall the Echo is the larger of the two.
  • vadpvadp Posts: 1,025
    Who's reaction am I seeking? (Don't tell me yours).
    The Echo looks girly. It's not necesarely a bad thing. Lots of guys drive chick's cars. To each of his own.
    How is your daydreaming about the Echo? I'm sure it always appears in pink.
  • rra123rra123 Posts: 2
    Hi,
    Can anyone post a comparison of Echo and Civic

    I am specifically comparing 4-dr Automatic Tx Echo
    with DX Civic 4-dr Automatic Tx

    Things that are important to me are :
    1. Reliability
    2. Safety
    3. Fuel-economy
    4. Cost
    I do not care at all about Looks, fun-to-drive,
    Frills such as Power-door,power-locks or cruise-control or even A/C

    The lower cost of Echo is offset by the fact that it not available without all the frills (so I have to pay for all upgrade packages)

    Also the impression i get is that Echo is susceptible to Cross-winds. Can it lose balance or go out-of-control if let's say I am driving at 60 to 70 mph on Dumbarton or Bay bridge and it is a windy day
  • sonatafansonatafan Posts: 171
    If the Echo could go out of control in a crosswind wouldn't Nader be able to dust of all his old notes and start a new crusade??
  • I rear ended a lady who suddenly changed her mind about entering traffic yesterday evening. Echo is okay, a dent in the passenger side of the bumper and some scratches on the hood. Her car was worse. 1987 Honda Accord, her driver's side rear fender was pretty crinkled. It was rusty and it didn't hold up too well. The State Trooper only gave me a verbal warning. I've never had a ticket and this is my first accident where it was my fault.

    :( :( :(
  • mong1mong1 Posts: 32
    Oh, you have been to Jay Wolf Toyota? They didn't call me, just a reply that someone will contact me soon and if I have any question I can write them back or call them.... somehow I feel that they're going to ignore me because I asked for a quote of RAV 4 last week....

    You said Jay Wolf have best quote, could you tell me what price? Is my quote fair or can be better, $13600 for almost everything.

    I have almost perfect credit. I used to pay my credit card clear until few months ago where I just graduated and was jobless... now that I got a job and I'm clearing my credit cards.... I don't own a lot though, just about 3 thousand.... not that bad right? Statistics show that average American own $6000 dept.

    I'm watching Dateline NBC now and they talk about how SUV have problem with rollover... I'm glad I didn't get RAV4 (can't affort also)... I'm driving a 91 Tracker now and I always have problem with turns, especially during bad weather. Oh, this friday, I'm not sure which news program, either 20/20, or Dateline, they will talk about what should we know about hidden fee when buying a car... I'm going to buy a car on saturday so definately will not miss this show.... I believe is 20/20 because I remember Barbra Walter.

    Hey, give me whatever quote you have, would you? I just don't have time to go to all the dealers. Thanks.
  • The paperwork fee varies greatly from dealer to dealer in K.C. It WAS a factor in my decision to buy at Molle. The paperwork fee was very minimal.
    The Edmund True Market Value data was helpful. That and the information about the dealer holdback on the Edmund site.
  • wenyuewenyue Posts: 558
    It was your fault, yet the cop only gave you a verbal warning?! Man, the females of the species can get away with just about anything... GEEz! ;)
  • echozechoz Posts: 15
    We are about to purchase a new Echo sedan. The only question I have is whether to pay extra for the power pack or not. It includes power windows, mirrors, central locking, velour trim, CD player and 60/40 fold down seats.
    I'd appreciate some thoughts on the matter. Thanks
    PS This is an option on the Australian Echo.
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