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Toyota Echo

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  • babyboomerbabyboomer Posts: 205
    My son and his wife have driven the ECHO since last Christmas. He was telling me yesterday via phone that they found the "hidden" drawer under the passenger seat. He said that the wife loves all those storage spaces and that car makers should design future cars with plenty of them. But best of all they love the ECHO's ability to not visit gas stations very often.
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,683
    Hmmm I'll wait for an episode of COPS where the perp is driving an ECHO and see if he stashes his drugs under the passanger seat.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    That drawer is great - it holds 12 CDs easy and has a detente so it won't slide out unexpectedly. Don't know why they eliminated so many of all the great storage spots when they updated it as the Yaris for '07.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • dgecho1dgecho1 Posts: 49
    2002 echo with ac, at, 3 in1 cd/radio/cassette, split rear seat, new tires and brakes, spoiler, clock, rear defroster.....84,400 miles....front bumper has a couple of cracks but carfax is clean,...chicago area..thanks in advance!!
    Don
  • dgecho1dgecho1 Posts: 49
    oops! $4500 for this '02 echo
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,683
    If the car is in good mechanical condition $4500 is a fair price. Check and see if the valve clearances have been checked at 60,000 miles. That is an expensive check I think.
  • dgecho1dgecho1 Posts: 49
    NO AC but it is a AT in excellent condition....single owner and clean carfax...opinions? GOOD echos are all selling quick!!
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,683
    I would buy one but Im afraid my ECHO is going to laast another 13 years so they might not be around then... :D
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    European Aygo could be the next Echo. Cute little car, roomy but small for easy city driving and geat fuel economy.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • babyboomerbabyboomer Posts: 205
    This review of the Aygo reminds me of the ECHO reviews. Was there ever a pro reviewer who did not trash the ECHO? Most buyers loved the ECHO but the media did not. Manufacturers rather sell the more profitable SUVs so ads for the smaller models are very limited. I remember seeing my first ECHO at a dealership and since nobody mentioned it I had to ask the saleman what it was. I had not heard or seen anything about the ECHO before that day. Will the high price of fuel be the end of the love affair with the huge SUVs? Will there ever be a luxury car the size of the ECHO?

    http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/toyota-aygo-review/
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    Well the reviewer in your linked article sounds European. I think most of the nice things he says about the Aygo would not be repeated by the speed mavens at the buff books here in the U.S.

    The things that I think are the strongest traits of the Echo - light weight, maneuverability, high fuel economy, low emissions, cheap to insure and run - are not attributes appreciated by the "professional reviewers" in America. Luckily, those traits ARE appreciated by a growing crowd of the buying public.

    I would love to see the Aygo come to the States, whether as the next Echo or just as itself.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,683
    Actually a bare majority of the articles I read about the ECHO eight years ago were positive. Sure there were negative ones (Edmunds most memorably) but many many writers recognized what a great little car the ECHO is. Not that they themselves would buy and drive an ECHO most likely, but they did widely acknowledge its roomy cabin, Toyota reliability, outstanding fuel economy, and spritely engine. It WAS pretty depressing to read the negative ones.
  • babyboomerbabyboomer Posts: 205
    Here is part of the 2001 Edmunds review of the ECHO. What impression do you get from it?

    "What Edmunds.com says
    We don't like the Echo. Check out the superior offerings from Hyundai and Kia.
    Pros
    Good gas mileage, speedy acceleration, roomy and functional interior, likely to be reliable.
    Cons
    Cartoonish styling, annoying gauge placement, tilt-a-whirl handling, deceptively low base pricing. "
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,683
    Superior offerings from Hyundai and Kia? Are you KIDDING me? The Pros are just about everything you could want in a car. Except of course the ECHO has no macho image to tell you you are the hottest thing on the road. I have to admit the ECHO is pretty much in your face if you value that sort of thing. If you are insecure in that area youll have a hard time rationalizing an ECHO.
  • dakedake Posts: 131
    Ha! Yeah, you have to laugh at that. How many of those Hyundais and Kias are still rolling around compared to Echos with comparable mileage?

    Yeah, the Echo's funny lookin', but like you said, if you get your self-worth from how your car looks, you've got bigger issues. I love the center-mounted instrument cluster, and I wonder why all cars aren't made that way - it's especially nice for night driving.

    The one fault in the Echo is it's high roof-line allows it to get blown about a bit on the highway, which could be disconcerting if you weren't ready for it. Beyond that, I love mine.
  • dgecho1dgecho1 Posts: 49
    the echo I have just bought - 05 AT coupe..no AC or PS....seems to have better seals on windows,steers with distinctly less 'float' at interstate speeds than the '00 and'02 I had earlier.....paint is flawless - not even dings on the hood!

    Anyone have experience with both models to know if subtle changes or quality improvements were done in the last model year or two...or is all of this my imagination??!!?? :confuse:
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,683
    As far as I know the only changes were sheet metal ones. That year ECHOs are much rarer I think they only sold 5000 or so the last year as opposed to 50,000 a year the first couple of years.
  • rep5858rep5858 Posts: 45
    I read about the Aygo. It's a joint effort between Toyota, Citreon, and Peugot. It's manufactured at the old Yugo plant in the Czech republic. The car gets a combined 62 mpg. It looks just like a Yaris but has a 3 cylinder vvt-i engine and lightweight metal skin. It also has a 1.4 diesel that gets even better mpg
    Two reasons why I think Toyota is not selling them here: They make more money on the gas guzzlers( still) and the emissions may be a problem, although European governments focus more on emissions than mpg ??
    Toyota is a master at manufacturing reliable fuel efficient cars around the world. I guess American car buyers are not interested in those attributes just vehicles that are mean looking , are fast and can intimidate other drivers.
  • kneisl1kneisl1 Posts: 1,683
    Bingo. Americans are not interested in such a car as the Aygo. That is the SOLE reason. Toyota went out on a limb with the ECHO and it failed in America. Now gas is $3.35 a gallon (diesel $4.24!) and going nowhere but UP! What would the price of oil be today if everyone bought an ECHO (or a car like it) in 2000? WAKE UP YOU BLOCKHEADS!
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