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Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans

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  • Thanks for the info about mbworld, Monakh and Mall610.

    I will definitely check that out. It's between the CLK coupe 320 and the E320 for me.
  • Martin H.

    Yes, I had tentatively come to the conclusion to just replace the burnt out bulbs, since the hook tool will hopefully make removal of the instrument cluster a simple process. I will report on my experience with it. The burnt out bulbs are one (or more?) behind the right face of the speedometer and one behind the clock time in the multifunction display.
  • I understand how it works but where do the two glass plates go? Can they both be opened at the same time making it so there is no roof? Or can only one be opened at a time? Anyone with a new E-Class that has this option, or anyone that knows, please respond.

    Thank you
  • rowlandjrowlandj Posts: 254
    The back panel is stationary and the front glides up and over the back when open.

    JR
  • wstehwsteh Posts: 8
    Mark,

    I'm 6'2" and like to sit upright. In any car with a sunroof my hair will touch the roof and it is very annoying. The resale is not an issue if you are uncomfortable every time you drive the car.

    Since I'm not in the market till spring, it is interesting to note that Volvo has removed the standard sunroof from several of their cars in the last month or two. However the Lexus GS300 and BMW 5-series seem to have a standard sunroof beginning this year. :(

    Regards,

    Wayne
  • mark156mark156 Posts: 1,992
    Wayne, I'm surprised that your head will touch the roof in an E-class, even with a sunroof. 6'2" is not that tall. Are you putting the seat all of the way down? Anyway, I hope you find what you are looking for.

    Mark
  • monakhmonakh Posts: 16
    I am about 6'1" and I have had to move my seat way up just so I can see the hood and I still find I am a few inches from the sunroof (I have the pano).

    So, I too, am surprised that 6'2" hits the roof.

    By the way, I love my E500, and I am keeping my finger crossed about this one not being a first year experiment. Mine looks flawless, and I hope it acts it too.

    --monakh--
  • jfz219jfz219 Posts: 63
    The talk about limited headroom reminds me of my first experience with the seats in my 2000 E320. The leg room was OK, but not great. Then I noticed that the passenger seat went back much farther than the drivers side. Moving the seat all the way forward re calibrated the controls and allowed the seat to move all the way back. This may be the reason that some of you have little headroom and others are puzzled. Try adjusting the seat all the way up and down. This may change the range of adjustment of the seat.
  • jfz219jfz219 Posts: 63
    The original MXV4 tires are nearing the end of their service (39,500 miles). I prefer a quiet ride with good rain performance over cornering prowess. Should I be looking at the Turanza LS-H, or the RE950 instead of the new MXV4-Plus? (Size 215/55-16)
  • sddlwsddlw Posts: 361
    Tire Rack and some of the folks in the discussion board "Aftermarket Accessories-Tires, Tires, Tires" rates the Turanza LS tires very highly. But these are relatively new tires on the market, with not much history to draw on. The ratings across the board for comfort and handling were higher with the Turanza LS-Zs than the Turanza LS-H. The only negative for the Turanza is snow traction. Check out


    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/index.jsp


    and look under "grand touring all season".

  • wmbiffwmbiff Posts: 11
    Has anyone knowledge of integrating a replacement phone (even if it means changing the wiring or existing harness) into the factory installed stereo/phone. I have replaced (at $600) one lost handset (motorola Star Tac) in my Y2K E class; and my spouse has a 99 C class with phone in need of repair. Hers is an older phone model (big clunky, and not great as hand held even when new) but the dealer still wants over $600 to replace.

    Any suggestions?

    Thanks,
    WB
  • Hi wsteh. I'm 6'2" and I have a pano roof in my E500 and there is plenty of room above my head. Maybe your seat is not all the way down or it's motion is restricted. I love the pano roof. It allows so much light into the car and my kids love having glass above the back seat. It's my favorite option. Good luck.
  • I, like wsteh, like to sit up straight when driving as it's better for my back. I guess it depends on how you have your hair that it will graze the top of the cars with sunroofs. I have the same problem, as most cars, I can't fit into without whacking my head against the sunroof. The mercedes cars I seem to have no problem. Even in a CLK cabriolet!
    Other cars I've tried that I've had no problem are:G35 sedan, A4, A6, CLK, E-class. Haven't tried the BMW's, but for sure, I don't fit in a 3 series. Maybe I'll try a 5.
  • mbdrivermbdriver Posts: 426
    Has it occurred to anyone that a headroom problem for someone 6'2" could be related to a person having relatively short legs and a very long torso? All persons who are 6'2" tall are not built the same.

    Just my 2-cents worth -- I'm 5'11" and have NO headroom problem.
  • aggie76aggie76 Posts: 265
    I'm one of those short legs (32" inseam), long torso guys and have loads of fun finding headroom with most cars. It does happen.
  • Hi
    I'm currently on a search to find my first MB. I'm driven to the E320 4-matic as my preferred vehicle. I have seen and driven several of them and found one today that I really liked. What I noticed different about this one is that the leather seats were solid leather, unlike all the other 2000 models I've seen have solid leather edges, but perforated center sections. Can anyone tell me why those seats are different than all the others?
    thanks!
  • footiefootie Posts: 636
    Kbharris - you didn't ask for this advice, but I usually give it to anyone in the forums that are indicating that they are buying their 'first vehicle' of a brand with high maintenance costs. If you already know what follows - go for it and enjoy.

    MB's are expensive to maintain outside of original warranty. Parts and labor are high. 4Matic means more parts to care for and potentially higher service costs. A good extended warranty usually pays for itself.

    Consumer Reports has the E Class as 'below average' in reliablity for the 99 - 00 model years. 01 was 'average'. Extended warranties for MB's are good math and need to be factored into your ownership costs.

    See if you can get the service records on the car and a StarMarked MB warranty till 100K. StarMarked is a very comprehensive warranty program offered by MB dealers. If you are buying from a dealership you should be able to get it for <$2K as I remember. If you aren't, take the car by a MB dealer to see if you can get one before you buy.

    Good luck and enjoy!
  • Footie
    Thanks for the tip. Yes, I have already taken an Extended Warranty into consideration. I'd like to get a Starmark Car, but it's hard to find one with the options I'm looking for (all of them ;) ). I was unaware that you could get MB to protect a car they didn't sell on the Starmark Program. I'll call my dealer today and see what they a have to say.
    However, do you by chance happen to know what I'm talking about with the seats being a different leather?
  • footiefootie Posts: 636
    I am not that familiar with the different leather styles.

    There was a version of interior trim (lower priced) called MB-Tex, and I think I remember that it was perforated on the back and the seating area but not on the sides, but I am not sure. I test drove a 99 E300TD a couple of years ago with it, and it was indistinguisable from the leather to me.

    Just a guess.....good luck.
  • mbdrivermbdriver Posts: 426
    kbharris1 - I think you might be mistaken about the leather in the 2000 E320 you're looking at. I have the same car, with leather seats, but only the seating area and back are perforated leather. The sides of the seats, I believe, are vinyl. The only other leather area is the covering of the side air bags in each door.

    My interior is "ash" (light gray). I use Lexol leather cleaner followed by Lexol leather conditioner about twice each year, and a McGuires high-quality vinyl treatment on the dash and all other vinyl areas of the interior, which still looks new.

    Hope this helps. And I agree with footie -- find a Starmark car from a MB dealer with the extended warranty to 100,000 miles! IMHO, it's worth spending the extra few bucks!
  • linardlinard Posts: 59
    Just a quick clarification issue, I'm absolutely sure that MB uses leather for the whole seat in cars with full leather. The exception are the ones that have part leather standard (e.g. the C240 and the E320 wagon).
  • I have a 2000 E320, and I bought Yokohama AVS dB 255/55ZR16 tires from Tire Rack for $101. I love them - they are fantastic! They are one of the quietest performance tires you can buy (dB). Check them out here: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=AVS+dB
  • linard is correct about the full leather with a couple of exceptions. Along with the E320 wagon, the E300 diesels also had the non-leather (MBTex) as standard. For what its worth, its pretty damn hard to tell the difference, the MBTex is the best "fake leather" I've seen. And, my local dealer claims it has better wear properties, so it's in the wagon as a more "rugged" surface.
  • mbdrivermbdriver Posts: 426
    linard, jawanda -- thanks for the info. Makes sense.
  • I've got a 2003 E320 on order. I'm considering the larger 245/45 R17 H tires for it that come standard with the E500. I'd stay with the standard dual spoke rims as opposed to the 5-spoke.

    Does anyone know of a reason why this would be problematic? Note that I'm not getting the airmatic suspension.

    My desire for the larger tires is purely cosmetic. They appear to fill the tire well better than the 225/55 R16s that come standard with the E320. My only concern is that they will somehow negatively impact the ride.

    By the way, I'm not talking about the optional high performance tires. Anyone have any insight?
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    I might be concerned about the difference in ride quality and treadlife of the larger low profile tires. I say "might" because I do not own or have specific experience with the new E-class. However, in the case of the old E-class, a friend has a 2001 E430 "Sport" and he has complained about the short treadlife of the larger tires that came with the sport package. Apparently, Mercedes did not upgrade the suspension and the lower profile tires tend to wear on the edges because of body roll. In the case of BMW's "sport" packages on the 5-series, the suspension is upgraded as well, not just the tires.

    Perhaps the new E class suspension produces less body roll than the old one so that the tire upgrade you are considering would be OK.

    I would also be a little concerned about the difference in ride quality, given that the E320 is a "luxury" car. My Honda S2000 uses "50" series W-rated tires on the rear and although that's great for a sports car, it's not the ride I would want with a luxury sedan.
  • stvirstvir Posts: 13
    A tire's treadlife depends on its treadwear rating and not on its size/profile. For example, a high-performance/sport "W" rated tire will wear much faster than an "H" rated tire of the same size/profile.

    When buying a tire, look for it's treadwear rating ... the higher, the better.
  • So if both tires are H rated, with one being the 245/45 R17 H and the other the 225/55 R16 H, I should expect similar wear?

    Is there any other reason, assuming no difference in wear in the tires above, that the larger tires would be undesirable?
  • microrepairmicrorepair Eastern MassachusettsPosts: 508
    Like aggie76, I've got a 32" inseam, which I never thought was "short".. Overall I'm 6'3" and have lots of headroom issues with cars, mostly the luxury ones.! I fit fine in my 96 E but cannot sit properly in the new S or the new E with a sunroof. The newer BMW 5 is comfy but the Audi A4 is a joke. I can't even get far enough into it to sit down. The Infiniti G35 is line to line with my noggin, but the Nissan Altima is fine. Thumbs down on the XJ6 and the BMW's from the mid 90's. However, I have tons of room in my wife's Matrix and a Neon and many other small cars including the prior chassis C-Class (the new C is marginal like the E and S). So what vehicles do the pro football and basketball players buy with their millions of dollars? They sure don't fit into most luxury cars, so they must all be driving Excursions and Suburbans??
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,769
    The general rule is that the higher the performance rating, the shorter the treadlife.

    A great resource for researching tires is tirerack.com. They have lots of information wrt to proper tires for your vehicle and real life consumer feedback.

    As for the ratings listed on the side of the tire, keep in mind that those numbers are valid only within the specific tire manufacturer. A 420 tread life on a Michelin is not equal to a 420 tread life on a Goodyear. Also, tread life is dependent on proper tire care, inflation pressure, road conditions, and your style of driving.

    Good Luck.
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