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Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans

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  • I am doing valve job on my MB 260 and i would apreciated if anyone could give me torque specification on tightening bolts on head :cry:
  • Go to the MBCA site. Better yet join the club .
  • I am getting a new 09 E550 the end of this month and am thinking of purchasing the factory extended warrenty. What is the coverage? Does anyone know the price? Can you deal on the Price? Any suggestions?

    Thanks for your help.
  • rramonrramon Posts: 5
    My car is a 2001 E320 with 134000 miles. I have had some minor issues but recently when driving on the freeway the car seems to slow down as if it is going to stop. If I am maintaining 60 MPH, the car will suddenly just slow down and when I step on the gas the car will not respond for a short interval. I had the dealer check and replace the transmission fluid. He also did a "transmission service" and stated that the transmission was fine. For some reason this seems to happen only at night. I have a concurrent problem in that I am told the left and right taillamp sockets( not the bulbs ) are burned out and need replacing. Could there be a connection since the driving problem seems to be at night when the lights are being used? Could there be a short?
  • After 11,000 miles the front disc Brake rotors were 2mm below minimum spec. I purchased the car certified pre-owned at 34K miles (now 45K). The dealership charged $275 labor and $104 parts (they paid for 1 of the rotors). Is this to be expected? Does this mean that every 20K I will need to replace the rotors? Shouldn't this be covered?
  • This is a wear and tear item. I have 30,000+ mi on my 2005 E320CDI and am not even close to needing replacement. Your driving requirements and style will dictate wear milage.
  • kevinc5kevinc5 Posts: 204
    Sounds like you had 45,000 miles on the rotors My 2000 E320 averages about 60,000 on front rotors and 25,000 miles on pads. Why did the pay for one of the rotors?
  • microrepairmicrorepair Eastern MassachusettsPosts: 508
    I have owned a 96 and a 2001 E320 and could never get more than 30K out of the pads and sometimes could get two pad sets out of the rotors, but not always. MB uses very soft pad and rotor material so that they wear away quickly and keep the heat build up to a minimum to prevent brake fade. One side effect is that the wheels get covered with brake dust very quickly. When my 01 E320 had about 60K miles and needed it's second set of front pads (the rears on my cars always lasted twice as long as the front), I did some research and found some aftermarket pads and rotors by wither PAG or PBR (can't remember which, I don't own the cars anymore). They were about 30% cheaper than the OEM parts, worked every bit as well, gave off almost NO dust at all, and lasted about twice as long. That's called a WIN, WIN, WIN, WIN in my book.
    On the other hand, your dealer did that work at really good prices. Normally you would be paying about $6-700 total for the front pads and rotors at most dealers..
    Brakes are wear items as someone else mentioned and Mercedes will only pay for rotors if they fail prematurely due to a manufacturing defect and 45K miles is not premature to them. And a friend of mine had all four rotors replaced on his 2001 E320 when it was less than 4 years old with just 26K miles and Mercedes refused to pay for any of it even though the rotors had voids in the casting that were causing the premature wear..!!!
    All of which is why I just traded my 01 E320 for an 09 Mazda6 GT sedan.. We retirees can't afford the repair bills on a Mercedes after Starmark runs out.... :(
    So I'm off to the Mazda6 forum... I'll miss the Mercedes ride, but not much else...
  • revrasrevras Posts: 59
    I will be leasing a E350 before the end of the year. The dealer is discounting the sport package equipped models( no charge option) . I am curious bout the differences in comfort, handling, tire wear and other opinions on the Sport option package vs standard luxury package. I like the looks but dont want to sacrifice the ride quality and am curious how much it is affected. Thanks
  • kevinc5kevinc5 Posts: 204
    I've been considering purchasing an E350 in early '09. My understanding is that the sport package is a no charge option regarldless of where you buy. The sport package gives you a stiffer suspension with more expensive performance tires which wear faster. Also, the setup is staggered (rear tires larger than the front), which eliminates your ability to rotate. The additional cost of tires could add up. Check the specific tire sizes supplied with each option on the MBZ site, then check replacement tire prices on a site like Tirerack.com.
  • hi, did you get the E350 yet?... Because i have a 2006 E350 and I love it. It is a very comfortable car. It gives a very nice ride as well. :) hope you like it or will like it when you get it.
  • kevinc5kevinc5 Posts: 204
    I've put my E350 plans on hold. I may go with a CPO. Also, 2009 E prices should be better as the 2010 approaches...and that Hyundai Genesis has also caught my eye.

    As the market continues to slide I'm starting to like that dent in my 2000 E320 trunk lid...may keep it.
  • HAD MY CLIMATE CONTROLLER CHANGED. EACH TIME I TRIED TO TURN ON MY A/C, THE EC RED LIGHT COMES ON. WHAT COULD BE WRONG? NEED HELP.
  • I have a 2005 E500 4matic and have a message that my third brake light and my right hand license plate is out. My license plate light has continuity and seems to be ok. Not sure how to get to my third brake light. Is that 3rd brake light difficult to change and how do I get to it. I feel that there is a problem common to the two lighs being out.
  • dan168dan168 Posts: 1
    I live in a warm and humid climate and my steering wheel control switches have been literally melting for years. The material they are made of has become soft and sticky and are an obvious distraction to the driver as well as unsightly. The dealer told me it was only because of where I live that this happens and there is no recource with Mercedes Benz.
  • kevinc5kevinc5 Posts: 204
    Where do you live?
  • carolinabobcarolinabob Posts: 521
    I test drove 2 Sport and 1 "regular" E350. The Sport models did not ride as well as I expected for this class car and a little disappointed in the regular model. Most importantly, all three had significant tire/road noise.
    Even at a $12,000 discount on a new 09, I found the car lacking in many features which should be standard at this level. While they all had package 1, many features were lacking-rear view camera, parking sensors, ventilated seats, Xenon headlights with AFS, premium audio, dual chrome ehausts (regular), etc.
    Mercedes should be able to do better than this at the prices they charge, even when discounted hevily.
  • cjones88cjones88 Posts: 23
    This is a crazy question I know, but does anyone know if there is a way to disarm the built in compass in the rearview mirror (where it says you're going NW or SE) on the 2010 E class? I've searched endlessly on the web for a 2010 owner's manual in the hopes that it may contain instructions on how to do so, but haven't been able to locate a manual. The direction is built into the mirror itself, so covering up with tape isn't an option. Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks.
  • james27james27 Posts: 433
    You probably can't turn it off, but you should be able to re-calibrate it, if it is not reading properly. On those (not Mercedes) that I've had, you had to press a button, then drive in a circle (find an empty parking lot, without a bunch of cars or other ferrous metals).

    Not that if you live very far north of the equator, depending on your relationship to the magnetic pole, or if you have some significant magnetic anomalies, it may never read right. The fuse probably controls the self-dimming as well, so that isn't a solution.
  • I have discovered for sale an unbelieveably clean low mileage (46k!)
    1989 MB 260E. It is a one owner Florida car that checks out. This is from the era of "over engineered cars" that have a rep of being difficult to maintain. I have a woman friend, age 40, who needs a daily driver for local drives. There are two Bosch shops nearby with good reputations. Should I suggest she consider this car knowing it will need closer attention to maintenance details? I can buy it for $3500 and suggest she budget another $2000 to clean up mechanical details. This is one very nice car and she is on a budget.
  • kevinc5kevinc5 Posts: 204
    I have no idea of market prices for that car, but I drove an 89 260E for 160,000 miles. I don't recall any significant repair or maintenance issues. It was a great car. If I could get a 260E or 300E with that mileage at that price, and it checked out mechanically, I might grab it. Are you familiar with benzworld.org?
  • No, I am not familiar with Benzworld but will take a look. Thanks.
  • Update to above. While still may be overpriced I have looked at 2010 E350 and it may be in my future. Dealer did not have any Luxury (non-sport) models, but will have one from the port soon for me to actually test drive. Keeping my fingers crossed.
    While MSRP has been reduced about 5K, still think it should come with more options, but can be satisfied with what PO1 package offers.
  • james27james27 Posts: 433
    As noted, my quest to buy an E-class without a sunroof for the extra inches of headroom was finally nixed by corporate. Has anyone sat in both the 'standard' E-class equipped with the sunroof verses the optional panoramic one? Is there a difference? I only sat in the one with the panoramic sunroof, and my hair rubbed on the ceiling. I'm leary about that, but wondered about the total amount of headroom between the two. I'd much rather avoid the cost of either sunroof for the 41.3" of headroom you get nearly anywhere else in the world without a sunroof we are forced to live with here. I don't think I want the coupe, which should fit...bummer, no good choices out there. In sedans, there's the Genesis 6 without any options, the Infiniti M (who knows what next year's will bring), and the E-class coupe. Lack of a useful back seat and easy access may be a killer. Also, wonder why we can't get it in diesel like the rest of the world.

    Any good info on the estate? What it will be offered with here? In UK spec, it has almost the headroom of the M (off by 0.1"), which is doable. Do they ever put a sunroof on that platform (which would kill the headroom like in the sedans)? Any word on diesel and 4Matic on that platform?

    Why have a car with all of that legroom, if you don't have headroom to match?
  • I purchased a used mercedes from a dealer. After I paid for it, the rear defog was not working. I brought it back to the dealer and they said they would have to get a new window in. Has anyone had problems with this year car regarding the rear defog not working. thanks.
  • any thoughts on the ride between these two. i like the looks of the sport especially with extra wheel package, but, mostly concerned with ride and noise level. i live in a snowy place and will get AWD. thanks
  • You really, really need to drive both back to back.
    However, the luxury model does ride better than the sport model-and the brochure even states this. May be quieter too due to less engine/transmission noise, but don't know.
    The sports have 18" wheels vs. 17" for the luxury. 17" wheels ride better.
    Sports has low-profile tires and luxury has regular performance tires which ride better.
    Luxury has the comfort suspension which rides better than the sports suspension.
    BTW, the C/S switch on the console is NOT for the suspension. It's for the transmission and both luxury and sport come with it.
    Not sure about the 4matic, but the 2WD sports has different size tires front and back which means you cannot rotate them.
    I have the luxury E350. It is not a Lexus, but it rides fairly well for a German car.
  • larrydtlarrydt Posts: 2
    I would like to know if it would be cost effective to have my drive shaft replaced on my 2003 E320 or to buy another one, if so what would the cost be to have the drive shaft repaired.
  • smarty666smarty666 Posts: 1,503
    I had a loaded C class a few years back and while I like the new C and E class designs and styling, I'm starting to have to shy away from MB completely! I have back problems and ground clearance is a factor for me with vehicles, because the lower to the ground they are the harder it is to get in and out of them in regards to pulling on your back. To me, MB has taken the C and E class far to low to the ground for my comfort level and its shame to have to nicks them for this reason. I have a 3G TL and that is about as low to the ground as I would want to go with a car.

    But luckily, design change over time, and maybe I'll get lucky on the next gen C and E class and they'll go back the other direction on ground clearance.

    If you don't have a back problem or any other major orthopedic problems nothing I say will matter and all power to you getting a C or E class. They are nice snazzy looking vehicles!
  • kevinc5kevinc5 Posts: 204
    I know exactly what your talking about and you're the first person I've seen mention it on an automotive forum. I think what you're referring to is not really ground clearance but "hip point, " the height of your hips above the ground when you're seated. I'm looking for a car to replace a Passat and that's the first thing I notice. You can get an avalanche of automotive information on the web but I've never seen hip points published in manufacturer's literature or automotive reviews. It's a common measurement used in automotive design and engineering, but apparently nowhere to be found by the consumer. Google hip point...
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