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Mercedes-Benz E-Class Sedans

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  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Hi folks

    As I mentioned a little while ago, we are changing the names of some of our discussions to drop the various "Part" indicators.

    Now that we have moved to our new platform, we no longer have the requirement to stop and restart discussions after the numbers of posts exceed a certain limit. Since this discussion can continue as long as anyone wants to talk about the E-Class, there is no longer a need for the "Part 7" that has been included in the discussion name. Down the road, that could confuse our newer members so I have removed it. I altered the name of the original E-Class discussion in the Archives to distinguish it from this one.

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  • cce182cce182 Posts: 40
    I’d be curious to hear the experiences of other recent-model M-B owners (mine is a MY2000 E430/4-matic/COMAND) concerning their radio performance. I get very marginal reception on all bands - AM, FM, and WB. Cheap hand-held radios used inside the car with their own whip antennas, on each of these bands, come in as well as the M-B radio. FM Stations that come in fine on other cars I have owned seem full of noise and static, and the FM sensitivity, in particular is poor. Local FM stations are, in some cases, almost unlistenable, with fading, noise, and multipath problems as you drive around. I’m embarrassed to play the radio if I have a passenger in the car since the radio simply isn’t anywhere close to the M-B quality reputation - “Why can’t the radio in a $65k car sound better than that in a Ford Focus? You paid WHAT for this car?” It is not nice for a $65k car to embarrass it's owner!

    The dealer has already swapped out the COMAND system in its entirety (the old one was better, at least in the Radio), replaced an antenna amplifier in some hidden location in the car - all to no avail. As I write this, the AM/WB functions are completely dead (but not noise-free), and the car will be heading back to the dealer again. The service manager says this is a known problem for which M-B does not have a solution, and the business manager tells me that some customers just buy an aftermarket radio to be done with it. Now that the M-B radio systems are integrated with the phone, and COMAND is even more highly integrated, this swapping is difficult to impossible.

    Is anyone else having these problems? Any thoughts? This is my first M-B, and is not what I expected.
  • wnielwniel Posts: 97
    I have a 2000 E430 and have perfect radio reception. I may caution you that if you have the back window tinted with the metallic tint, you will have limited reception on the AM band, however this shouldn't affect the FM band. I had my windows all tinted with the metallic and had very poor AM recption and had to have the tint replaced with the non- metallic which eliminated the problem. Other than this temporary glitch every thing has been fine. One other problem that comes up from time to time, the CD and integrated phone that utilizes fibre optic cables will sometimes lose its contact and you will be unable to use this equipment. Usually after turning off the car and restarting it will correct the problem. Last time I checked, there wasn't any fix for the problem. This happens very infrequently.
    Wally
  • fshxprtfshxprt Posts: 8
    I have a 2001 E320 delivered March, 2001. How do I know that it has syn Oil in it?
  • ncpetencpete Posts: 2
    I have been dreaming about owning an E-Class ever since I saw those 4 beautiful oval headlights staring back at me at a car show back in 1996. Well, about a week ago I took the plunge and got a GREAT deal on a 1997 E420 with 42000 miles. I fell in love with it the moment I saw it! Smoke silver with tan leather interior. The dealer was asking 31.5K - I thought he was crazy! KBB value on this car with options (sunroof, 6CD chgr, phone, leather) was quoted at 38.9K. The vehicle had all service records current and as a matter of course I had two independant prepurchase inspections done just to make sure the car was mechanically sound. CARFAX was also clean. The car did show some signs of reworked damage on the rear quarter panel (that the dealer pointed out himself), but was not significant. Previous owner was a non-smoker, given away by the lack of cigarette burns on the end of the lighter. Further investigation showed that the previous owner was also a surgeon (phone was still loaded with hospital ER and OR numbers). This explains the low miles and also assures me that it wasnt driven alot on the highway. I tried to keep an objective opinion about the vehicle to shoot bullets at its low price but there is just nothing wrong with it! I bought it and just love driving it. I am glad its a 420 - the added HP makes a big difference in passing performance. The interior is incredibly quiet and very comfortable (my wife caught me sitting in it one night pretending I was racing it while it was parked in the garage - she thinks I'm nuts! maybe...). Now that I have found the car which will probably be with me for a very long time, anyone have any suggestions on maintanence practices I can do on my own?? The owners manual is pretty strict on using certain "Mercedes certified" fluids and parts. I like using Mobil1 synthetics in the crankcase. Any comments. Any and all are welcome. Thanks!
  • rayberg7rayberg7 Posts: 7
    I had my 2000 E320 in for repair of an
    EGR valve and fuel SE sender. Since the car had 19,800 miles on it and it is quite inconvenient for me to get the car to the garage, I asked that they go ahead and perform the Class I 20,000 mile service. The maintenance chief said that I would have to pay for it myself because the car computer said that maintenance was not due for another 2,000 miles. Is this Mercedes policy to treat customers in this fashion? Or is is just this particular dealer?
    Also, I received a letter the other day from Mercedes (not the dealer) stating that they were recommending henceforth that synthetic oil be used in the 2000 and 2001 E-class cars. Does this mean that Mercedes will pick up the cost for this oil? I know in the past that owners had to pick up the synthetic oil cost themselves.
  • rayberg7rayberg7 Posts: 7
    Regarding complaints about radio reception. I drive frequently between Colorado Spings and Denver. Radio reception was great in my old Mercedes with the telescoping antenna. It's very poor in my E-320, but better driving away from Denver when my rear windshield is facing the radio station. In my opinion, Mercedes should get rid of the rear window antenna and go back to a standard antenna.
  • livetodrivelivetodrive Posts: 104
    After having our E-430 4Matic for a month, we gave it its first Zaino treatment today. Cut the ends off two expensive Linens and Things towels (despite wife's pleas), followed by Dawn wash, clay bar, Z7 wash Z1 followed by Z2, altogether 4 hours of fun, with plenty of neighbors stopping by to comment! It really does shine. The Pirellis, though, did not come out very clean. Any suggestions? Washing a car is a great way to find out new features. Some not so good... 4 paint chips (2 on the hood are bothersome). Any suggestions on the repair? Have any dealers repaired them at no cost? One new discovery - there is a probe jutting out of the driver's side air dam on the bumper. Is this a temperature sensor?

    Per a recent post, I inflated the tires from dealer-set 32 to 36 psi, and then we went for a drive. Now that it has over 1,000 miles, I couln't resist bringing it up to an effortless 100 mph, albeit briefly, while the Valentine 1 was quiet.

    The radio reception is not a problem, but we live in a metropolitan area, so I guess the signals are strong. The COMAND worked well, but I had to work around the region cds. To operate, insert the destination area cd and program the destination address. Then drive to the area on my own. Once in the region, the map pops up and starts giving directions. By the way, we named the voice "Marilyn".

    So all in all, I spent the day bonding with our new E430. It was great.
  • Is it known what model year will see the next version of the E class?

    I curently have a '92 LS400 which is a fantastic car but I need AWD. I don't have to make a move immediately if the change is coming within 2 years.
  • swimmomswimmom Posts: 23
    We are enjoying our beautiful 01 E wagon need some help with CD player installation. I purchased a becker cd changer from continental imports along with the appropriate (or so they told me) mounting brackets. I had saved some install instructions I saw posted almost a year back and gave those to my husband yesterday and came back an hour later to find him scratching his head with frustration. Apparently the mounting brackets don't seem to fit anywhere.(we had 2 sets, one that came from becker with the CD changer and an additional set provided by continental imports that were the supposed "correct brackets") Has anyone successfully installed a cd changer into a wagon? Can anyone provide me with any tips on where these darned mounting brackets fit? Any info would be greatly appreciated.
  • 2ndmb2ndmb Posts: 72
    I added 2 more coats of ZAINO to my 2000 E320 this weekend. This makes 7 coats in 9 months! It looks beautiful. The more coats you put on the deeper the paint gets. Your comments about the paint chips are normal, I think it is based on the style of the front end, here in NY the trucks kick up lots of stones on my daily commute. What color is your E? Mine is brilliant Silver.
  • rablakerablake Posts: 16
    Hi Swimmom
    I, too, finally got my '01 E320 wagon a couple of weeks ago and am enjoying driving more than ever. Don't know if this helps, but the MB CD player is mounted in my wagon in the right rear deck, behind the access door to the first aid kit, below the deck surface. I would guess after-market brackets might duplicate the location but do not know.
    Richard
  • bargamonbargamon Posts: 302
    thanks for the response. What I am thinking is not as winter tire substitute, but to replace goodyears as they have no winter ability.
  • swimmomswimmom Posts: 23
    Thanks, I can see clearly where the pre drilled holes are for the changer. I think that the mounting brackets I have are the problem. Neither of them fit at all and no amount of fiddling about is helping. If there are suggestions or success stories out there I would be thrilled to hear them.
  • dunninladunninla Posts: 33
    Anyone install Eibach springs on your E-class? Would you recommend?

    My 2001 E320 was upgraded at 15 days to 17x8.5 AMG monoblocks, with Dunlop SP8000 tires. After five months, I notice two things: 1) there is a lot of space between the tire and the fender, which looks funny to me, especially compared to the new S Class low clearance, and 2) there is a fair amount body lean upon cornering. I drive 22 miles of semi-twisty canyon road each day at average speed of 40-50 miles per hour (75kph), so the cornering improvement will be felt every day.

    I was at Globe Tire in L.A. to have the tires rotated, mentioned this, and the guy said I could solve both problems for only $550 installed with Eibach Pro-Kit springs. The Eibach springs will lower the chassis 1" (2.54 centimetres), and reduce body lean, and plowing upon braking, with very little effect on the ride quality. He said putting in Eibach shocks and roll bars would be overkill, since I never race the car, so I don't plan on that.
  • livetodrivelivetodrive Posts: 104
    My E is Desert Silver and really looked great after the waxing. I am not sure of the steps to follow for subsequent coats of Zaino. I will rewash the car with Z7. Then should I apply Z2 directly, or first apply Z1, or Z1 followed by Z6, or just Z6? Thanks in advance for your tips.
  • waltowalto Posts: 34
    I actually went from the original equipment tires (MXV-4s) to the the Yoko db's for the factory 16" wheel (a 225-50-16). The noise and ride-quality benefits of the Yoko were obvious in this size, and the steering response was better too. The car, however, felt "under-tired." It just didn't feel like enough grip. I then went to the 17" wheels and db 235-45-17, and the car simply came alive. The grip is much more than adequate, the high speed stability (for the first time) was equal to that of my several older Mercedeses, and the steering response is perfect. I have the idea that MB really designed the car around this setup and then backed off for the less-expensive cars. The E-320 has plenty of power to use the setup, and I think the extra money for the wheels is worth the cost.
  • 2ndmb2ndmb Posts: 72
    If you already applied Z1 then feel free to add as many coats of Z2 as you would like. As I said, the more coats the deeper the shine. For tips, you should go to http://www.zainobros.com
  • dkatlantadkatlanta Posts: 23
    Thanks, walto,for the information on tires and wheels. I've been a little disappointed by the stability of my E320 at US highway speeds. The car is fine at 40 mph and at European highway speeds as well, but at 60-70 mph, there's too much wander. Perhaps this will help! Incidentally, the specialty tire store that sold me my Michelin Pilots recommends 32 psi front and 36 rear.
  • mbdrivermbdriver Posts: 426
    dkatlanta - I believe that walto keeps the tire pressure at 34 lbs for his 17" Yoko AVS dBs and notices considerable differences in handling, ride and steering with changes of as little as 1 lb. of tire pressure.

    Also, wneil said that his tire expert recommends 36 lbs of pressure for maximum tread wear. I've kept my 17" Yoko dBs at 35 lbs and am very satisfied. Let us know your own experiences.
  • parkcityparkcity Posts: 2
    I saw the question from fletchkel dated 4/22. I am also attempting to find out about the updated version and have heard that it will not be out 'til April or June next year. It will look like the S or C in E size. Nothing on prices, specs, etc.
  • drew_drew_ Posts: 3,382
    More like September/October '02, not April ;-) Check out Edmunds' Future telling section. You can expect the Airmatic Adtive Dampening System from the S-class, and ABC for the new AMG tuned E.
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  • yupyupyupyupyupyup Posts: 16
    Question for anyone who has their instument cluster replaced because the clock loses time. how long did you have to wait for the dealer to order until they get this part in? Mine supposedly ordered it over a month ago and I still have not heard back from them. thanks.
  • I'm looking to purchase a '94 E320 in EXCELLENT condition. I have never been a Mercedes owner and would like some feedback from those familiar with this model.
  • wnielwniel Posts: 97
    I had the Instrument Cluster replaced in my 2000 E430 about 4-5 months ago for other reasons than the clock replacement and it only took a couple of days. They don't like to drag out the time as they want the odometer to be as close to being in line with the mileage of the former. They put the mileage on the new odometer to match the old at the time the order for the cluster was made. Obviously if a long period of time goes by, then the mileage won't match due to the amount of driving that you do. The mileage is apparently put on the new odometer by someone other than the dealership, as it came in with the mileage on it.
    Hope this helps.
    Wally
  • wnielwniel Posts: 97
    I owned a 1993 E320 that I had bought new and drove it nearly 90,000 miles before selling it and found it to be a wonderful car. The same would hold true for a 1994. The only thing that I can think of being a problem is that the head gasket tends to leak a bit of oil unless it has had the fix applied to it. This includes putting on the updated headgasket and the other is to plug the oil journal in the block that dead ends at the head. There is very close tolerance between this port and the edge of the gasket, and in time the gasket would get soaked with oil and start to seep. This oil journal is of no value as it dead ends at the head and doesn't go anywhere. They tapped threads in the port and screwed in a plug. I drove the car many miles after that fix with no more oil leaks and my son-in-law now owns the car with no problems and leaks.
    I hope that this helps.
    Wally
  • yupyupyupyupyupyup Posts: 16
    I will call my dealer to morrow to see whats up with the delay in getting the instrument cluster. Does you dash rattle or squeak afterthey replaced it?
    Vinny
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