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Honda Civic 2005 and earlier



  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    Yes, it's normal for air to come through the vents if the fan is off and you have fresh air selected. Since the main vent is left open to outside air when in fresh mode, the faster you go, the more air will be pushed inside the car. The air should stop coming in if you select recirculate.
  • rivertownrivertown Posts: 928
    Something's weird; MSRP here (TN) $15,470. Plus, there's $500 dealer cash. Invoice is $14.1+K, and TMV is $14-K.
    Were it me and were it TN, I'd offer $13,650 and walk if they came back higher than $14K, making sure they had my e-mail addy and asking 'em to email if they can do better.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    My car started out with Michelins and they were pretty good tires. I got 30K out of them, then decided to sell the wheels. They still had adequate tread left on them though, and these were 17" tires, so I was fairly impressed. They are a little pricey when new, but the adage, 'you get what you pay for' comes to mind.

    Kumho tires are pretty good from what I hear as well, although I don't have any first-hand experience with them yet.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    A buddy of mine gave up on his '91 Escort wagon finally (with almost 300K miles!) and bought a new 03 Civic LX automatic sedan. He's had the car for about 4 months now and has about 20K on it (he took it cross country when he first got it), and he loves the car. I noticed, though, that he locked the car with the key when he left it. He said he has to do that every time. Is this true? I guess a keyless entry system would be the only answer to solve this?

    BTW, the Civic's dash looks really cool at night when it lights up too, just like the VWs kinda. Nice touch.
  • dudkadudka Posts: 451
    he can also lock the car by pulling on the drivers inside handle and presing the lock button, while the door is open.
    Honda has had "dumb-proof" lock since the early 80's. In order to lock the doors form inside while the driver's door is open one needs to pull on the inside driver's handle and activate the lock. Most people lock their keys inside by pressing the lock button while they are getting out, forgetting their keys either in ignition or on the seat. Honda thought that by making people lock their car with keys they will be less likely to lock them-selves out, but by pulling on the door handle de-activates the "dumb-proofing"
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    My VW was the same way. You could only lock it with the remote or the key when exiting. But the Honda doesn't have standard remote, and I would think it would become a pain where a pill can't reach eventually...
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Posts: 4,202
    It's actually pretty simple. You pull on the handle and press the lock button. Keyless entry is a pretty inexpensive add-on if it's that much of an inconvenience. Besides, if you spend $25,000 for a Civic like you did for your Jetta you could have 2 Civics and 2 keyless entry systems or just buy a Civic EX (which has standard keyless) and pocket the extra $9000 :)
  • micwebmicweb Posts: 1,617
    Just another way to support their fat profit margins...they build an admittedly good car, but some of their profit enhancing tricks are a little sleazy.
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Posts: 4,202
    You can get keyless for $120 on On a Lancer ES you have to buy a $500 package to get rear headrests. Mitsubishi took away the valet key on it's models in the name of cost-savings. You have the option on the Civic of paying $120 for keyless or moving up to an EX where you get just about everything you could ever want on a small car. In some cars you don't have the option of getting a safe, reliable car and even if you did it would cost way more than $120.

    So I guess you are saying that not getting keyless on a car is cost savings so do you think that the Civics 5 star rating and good side-impact ratings were free? Not to mention they increased the size of the Civics engine but increased the MPG. Then they developed a suspension that allowed them to give the Civic a flat floor in the back. Then they reduced gap tolerances to an insanely low number when the 96-00 Civic was already better than most. And you are complaining about keyless entry?
  • port_48port_48 Posts: 27
    In my quest to be the cheapest fellow around, I bought the DX with hand crank windows, etc, etc. One of those etc is the meter group, aka gauge cluster, only including speedo, temp, and fuel. I've found meter group for LX/EX which includes the tachometer. Does anyone know if this is functional replacement? Looking at the Honda FSM it shows 2 connectors going into the cluster. Do these connectors include the tach signal and if I remove the existing cluster and replace with one including the tach will the tach work? Also, can I get the odometer reading on the new cluster to match what the existing one reads?


    2002 Civic Sedan DX
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Posts: 4,202
    I think you can replace the gauge cluster but that will kill your cars value because it will be true miles unknown. The mileage won't match and anybody who looks at the car will know it's not the original cluster.
  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    Got this feature on my '03 Sentra and it's a nice extra to have. I think eventually all car makes will have this little "extra" as standar equipment on all trim levels as more people desire it.

    The Sandman :-)
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,610
    Well, both of ours cars have this and, for me, anyway, I could care less about it.

    The one for the Accord has had a dead battery for a month...ho hum...

    I mean, I've got to have the key out anyway in order to start the car!

    But, I guess it's a big deal for some people!
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    mainly because it helps to prevent scratches from errant key placement.

  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    Isellhondas: You would think differently if you were trying to unlock your car in a dark area. Nothing worse than trying to find the keyhole and scratching the paint all up in the process. And than of course there is the danger of being bent over trying to find the confounded thing while someone approaches you from behind...
    Keyless entry is a godsend. I would never buy a car without it.
  • osum02osum02 Posts: 29
    I went onto the College Hills Honda website and it stated there would be a freshened restyling for the '04 MY Civic. It also states there's 2 new colors, Fiji Blue Pearl and Magnesium Metallic. Can anyone describe what Figi Blue and Magnesium Metallic are? Are these colors replacing some current colors? One thing I heard from a reputable source recently is that the Civic EX Sedan will have alloy wheels standard for 2004 just like the EX Coupe has for '03. Also does anyone know at what point will the changes to the '04 Civic be made public? In recent years the Civic is usually in the back of dealer lots at the middle or end of August.
  • bjk2001bjk2001 Posts: 358
    Keyless is nice to have. I personally like it. But some people could live without it to save a couple hundreds bucks, also some other people think power window/door is not necessary either. FYI, some other much more expensive cars than Civic LX, like Toyota Avalon XL $27K Highland SR5 V6, don't come with Keyless entry either.
  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    She thinks it's a very good thing, especially the safety issue. With 2 teenage daughters driving, it's a G-dsend just for the peace of mind. Will the '04's finally have this feature across the whole line? The Sentra, Corolla, and the Protege all ahve this on most of their lines, so it'll only be a matter of time before Honda follows suit.

    The Sandman :-)
  • jeff186jeff186 Posts: 95
    Supposedly, there will be a Value Package model in '04, though I don't have the details.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    It's fine that you have to take the key out to start the car, that makes sense. But throw in a bag or three of groceries and two toddlers, and you will be begging for keyless entry...
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