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Honda Civic 2005 and earlier



  • It does happen to my car too. I was told that it is generally not recommended to drive over 50 mph for new car which has under 600 milage. It is referred as the "break-in" period. Since the engine and everything else in there are so new, it will take a while until they take into full performance. In this case, more gas will be consumed. It is not uncommon.
  • osum02osum02 Posts: 29
    My Civic owners manual states the following regarding break in of the new car: "Help assure your vehicle's future reliability and performance by paying extra attention to how you drive during the first 600 miles (1,000 km). During this period: Avoid full-throttle starts and rapid acceleration. Avoid hard braking for the first 200 miles (300 km). Do not change the oil until the scheduled maintenance time." Personally, I've always been told during the first 600-1000 miles to make sure I vary my speeds and to never use cruise control during this period. The vast majority of my driving is highway and to never exceed 50 mph on a Califorinia highway is impossible and unreasonable. Your assessment regarding more consumption of fuel because of everything being new is quite plausible. Thanks for your input.
  • Was wondering what others have done to boost the horsepower of their Civic engines. I've got a 1.4 liter, 16 valve engine in my '95 Civic Sedan LX and...well....while I've always gotten great gas mileage...the pickup really stinks. Anybody have any ideas about how to boost my horsepower?

  • jaa37jaa37 Posts: 67
    I'm trying to decide between a 2003 Hybrid and a Corolla S. Any ideas? The gas mileage on the Hybrid seems great, but I'm worried about its reliability (because it's a new technology)/depreciation (because new and better hybrids might come along soon)...
  • bd21bd21 Posts: 437
    The technology is proven, so you don't have to wait, but you are comparing apples to oranges! You should be comparing the Toyota Pirus to the Honda Civic HX Hybrid. Between this two vehicles the Toyota offers much higher gas mileage and more features. The problem with both Hybrids is if you plan on keeping them past their warranty the replacement battery cost may hurt you in your wallet to the tune of several thousand dollars. You can currently buy an 04 Civic 4 door LX with an automatic or a similar equipped Corolla S anywhere in the country for between 16 & 17K out the door including tax. A hybrid will cost you several thousand more and you will never make that difference up with any gas saving and when battery change time comes you will be hating life. If I had to buy a Hybrid, I'd look at the Toyota. If I was trying to get the best car and bang for my buck, I would get the regular Civic.
  • dudkadudka Posts: 451
    Making My 1995 Engine More Powerful by aegould

    Try visiting more modifications oriented websites. A good place to start adding power to a Civic is Nitrous. For $600 you can dial in another 50-100 hp, but only for a few seconds up to a minute on a bottle. Next step would be forced induction, either a turbo or supercharger. There are two camps, the turbo people would say that turbos are the way to go, supercharger people say that superchargers are the way to go. Both will agree that those sump pumps sold on ebay as electric superchargers are junk and will hurt your engine when the blades on the impeller brake off and are sucked into your engine.
    If you are all "au naturelle" you can swap the 1.4 liter for a more potent 2.2 Liter from a prelude.
    Good luck
  • jaa37jaa37 Posts: 67
    Okay, I eliminated the Hybrid--just cann't quite afford it, plus the depreciation/maintenance ccosts make me nervous. But I can't decide between a Corolla S and a Civic EX. Any thoughts? The Civic seems to have slightly better ratings and resale value, but some people seem to like the Corolla more...
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,628
    If you can get the Civic EX for the same price as the Corolla S, and you like the cars equally well, I'd go with the Civic because of its content that includes moonroof, alloys, and ABS. Of course if the Corolla S you are looking at has all those goodies too, then you're back to square one. You might also consider miscellaneous factors to help you decide a close one like this, like convenience and reputation of the dealer (for service) and color availability.
  • thelthel Posts: 767
    The Corolla S has some body stuff that you either like or don't. I have a Civic EX sedan and a Matrix. The Civic engine has a bit more growl in it... some would say its noisy, but I like it. The Civic has a bouncier ride but some say that it handles better...but frankly, if you want handling look at the Mazda Protege.

    If the local Mazda dealers weren't so lousy, I probably would've gotten a leftover 03 Protege for thousands less than the Corolla or the Civic goes for.
  • dudkadudka Posts: 451
    If you drive manual you would have noticed a difference in shifter. I assume you did not because you have not mentioned the shifter. Honda has an edge there. Honda manuals are someof the best out there, Toyota makes good cars, don't take me wrong, but their shifters are a little bit diconnected and have some slop in them.
    If you are going for auto, then it is a wash. It will basically come down to "who can give you better deal" Don't be affraid to pit one dealer against another. Right now Honda has 2.9% or 3.9% financing available. Last year this time it was 1.9%. Toyota had 0% financing for a while, but I am not sure what they have now.
    Corolla S still has the same engine as the regular corolla, Civic EX has a different engine from the other trims. Corolla S is just a decorative package.
    I had a Corolla rental when my Civic was in the body shop. It was an auto and the basic version with crank windows. It is a very roomy vehicle, has some pep, and I am sure one with manual would be fun to drive. But, it squatted alot in turns, and when braking.
    Drive both side by side and then if still not sure, get one that gives you the best bang for the buck.
  • thelthel Posts: 767
    Honda would definitely get the nod in the shifter department. The 6-speed in my Matrix has poor feel....kind of like what I would expect a video game or a toy to have.

    The Toyota shifter is still better than the shifter in the WRX though....yuck, that one needs to go back to the J-car parts bin where it belongs.
  • jaa37jaa37 Posts: 67
    I test drove both (automatics) and found that the Corolla seemed to have a bit more power, but the Civic seemed to handle a little better. I'm planning on holding onto the car forever, so maybe the Civic's resale value is the deciding factor. Plus I just got an offer for an EX for $16,100 (w/side airbags), which is better than any Toyota S offer i've gotten so far...
  • thelthel Posts: 767
    Is that for an 03 or an 04? If that's for an 04, that's outstanding! If it's for an 03 it's still pretty good....but I like the new front fascia on the 04's myself. I'd say go for it jaa37.
  • jaa37jaa37 Posts: 67
    yeah, for a 2004. Amazing, right? I called a couple of other dealers, and they didn't believe me...
  • pulgopulgo Posts: 400
    If you are going to keep the car forever the resale value doesn't matter.
  • thelthel Posts: 767
    we're talking civic and corolla. Both have high resale values so that is a bit of a wash if you ask me.

    Jaa37 - did you get that $16,100 figure in writing on a buyer's order? I smell a lowball.

    If you don't know what a lowball is it's basically where a dealer makes you think that he is offering you a Civic for $16,100 when he figures that you will simply shop his number around to other dealers. You then do so only to have other dealers say no way (which it appears has happened to you). You then return to the original dealer only to find that the $16,100 figure was only good for that day or something like "oh you meant on an automatic model...well those are more $$". You get the idea.

    Basically the lowballing dealer has no intention of selling you the car for $16,100, he's just trying to either get rid of you or get you to come back in a state of exhaustion where you will agree to a "renegotiated" deal which may or may not be any good.

    I'm not saying that is for sure what is going on in your case, just that I would be suspicious.

    I have a question. How long were you negotiating / interacting with the dealer that said $16,100?

    Please, let us know how it goes.
  • osum02osum02 Posts: 29
    The Honda dealership service dept put in a new heater core and my car still makes the gurgling sound upon accelerating from a stop. Upon my arrival at the dealership this morning, the service dept manager said his tech was able to duplicate the sound on another brand new 2004 Civic. The service manager and I went out and duplicated the same exact gurgling sound on another new 2004 Civic EX assembled in Japan. This apparently is a characteristic of the 2004 Civic if all 3 Civic's are making the same exact gurgling sound upon accelerating from a stop. The sound goes away in a few seconds and only does it on when the temperature is on heat.
  • So then the gurgling sound IS normal! In a way I'm kind of glad. That means there's nothing wrong with my car, either.

    The only car that I had that did not make the gurgling noise was a second hand 1987 Volvo 240 that I drove in my college years. Other than that, all of the cars that I drove had that gurgling sound. It almost sounds as if someone's eaten something bad and their intestines are bubbling with gas... "bluuub blub buuub zoop." Something like that.

    Happy New Year everyone! ^_^
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 17,711
    None of the cars I've owned made a gurgling sound
    -- unless they had air trapped in the heater core after an antifreeze change.

    Sounds like a problem that's being called normal! I guess that's cheaper than fixing the design flaw???... as long as people will accept it. LOL

    This message has been approved.

  • thelthel Posts: 767
    I guess I'll listen for it the next time I drive it....if I can remember to that is.

    Happy New Year!
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