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Honda Civic 2005 and earlier



  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    That's terrible!! I'm so glad you are okay - relatively speaking, anyway. Hope you feel better soon.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    I have to disagree with you and for a good reason. People who don't wear their seatbelt make a conscious decision to do so. If they want to risk their life and risk getting a ticket, then so be it. It's their choice. Why should they have to deal with an aggravating alarm that does nothing other then to infuriate, which could possibly lead to road rage? Ask yourself this: If Hyundai decided to install an alarm that went off whenever you went over the posted speed limit, wouldn't that just piss you off and make you want to rip it out? You and me both know that exceeding the speed limit is against the law and dangerous, but I'm willing to bet you wouldn't obey the law just because their is an alarm telling you to do something you already are fully aware of. Instead, you would desperately try to find out how to shut the dumb thing up.

    Here's another example: Riding a motorcycle without a helmut. It's not against the law in Florida, but it almost certainly means death if you are hit. I own a scooter and drive it to work periodically. I wear my helmut going to and from home, but don't when doing the deliveries for my job. I know damn well its extremely dangerous, but the helmut gets stifling hot in the wonderful hot and humid air of Florida and it puts pressure on my upper neck, leading to neck pain and then a headache. Plus, its just a hassle taking it on and off and it messes up my hair. Therefore, I choose my comfort over my safety. But you don't see the scooter beeping at me for doing this or the police pulling me over.

    The seatbelt alarm is just another nanny that we don't need. It won't change people's minds, just annoy them. I think the seatbelt light and the beeping when you first start the car is plenty warning. That being said, I do believe in the life-saving benefits of the seatbelt. I just don't think people need to deal with another distraction just because they want to live life dangerously.
  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    Last time I looked, being stupid was not against the law!


    The Sandman :)
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,682
    I'm sorry if my showing concern for the life of another poster on this forum bothers you. Everyone is of course free to be as stupid as he or she wants to be. But I won't knowingly help someone do something I think is life-threatening. I won't even mention the neck pain and headache you could receive by not wearing a helmet. That's your choice.

    If Hyundai put in a beeper that went off if the car went over the speed limit, I would be impressed by the technology ("how'd they determine the speed limit at any given time??") but would probably not buy that car. But Hyundai, or any automaker, wouldn't do that, so it's not a very good example. They would only do it if it were mandated by the government. And even the government isn't that stupid. I hope.

    I don't know how long the seatbelt alarm sounds in the '05 Civic, but in my cars it sounds for a few seconds then goes off; the little "person wearing a seatbelt" light stays on steady (or blinking) indefinitely. Pretty easy for someone to ignore if they want to, IMO.
  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    After suffering back pain since 1988 and getting hurt at work June 1, 2004, I was about to resume work full time and give up my cane for good. This past April 27th, I hydroplaned in my postal truck after a brief rain, lost all traction, jumped a curb and plowed head on into a large sabal palm tree here in Boca Raton Florida. The impact was such that my glasses flew off my head, and the front of the truck was wrapped around the tree. Without my seatbelt on, I would not be typing this messege. My neck and shoulders are still bruised and I restarted physical therapy this week, hurt all the time and can't walk without my cane again, as the jolt put my lower back out again, though I'm not back to the point I was like last June, but will have chronic pain my whole life my many doctors have told me.
    Everyone who saw the accident scene has told me I was lucky to be wearing my seatbelt as IT DID SAVE MY LIFE! I know my wife and kids are glad I did wear it. I taught them all how to drive and putting on your seatbelt is the 1st thing we do when we all close our doors. Then it's starting the car and so on.
    I can't stress it enough, please everyone wear your seat belt or helmet. I did and my life and body are forever changed...the alternative if my belt had not been on is too scary to think about. Everyone who attended me at the scene, from my supervisors to the paramedics to the sheriff investigating the accident scene all asked me the same question..."Did you have your seat belt on?" And I could truthfully say, I did.
    It's a little thing in life to use safety gear when we operate a vehicle on our roads. Like the Nike commercial says..."Just Do It". Sure glad I did!!!
    Just some food for thought folks. Do it for your families if you have a problem just doing it for yourselves. I wouldn't wish the pain and agony and lost work days on anyone. I want my life back again!

    The Sandman :sick:
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,682
    Nothing like being there.

    Whenever I feel too lazy to put on my seatbelt (which I do sometimes), I will think of that story. I also think of the other eyes watching me--those of my three kids. I am proud of them that they always buckle up without being asked (took some work to get us to that point of course), and it would look pretty bad if dad didn't buckle up too. Or even worse, if his laziness caused him not to be around to nag them for a few more years.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    I agree, if it was like your Hyundai, who cares? It's just a few beeps and the light stays on. But that's not the case for numerous new cars. Mitsubishi uses a beeper that waits about 1 minute after starting the car and detects whether the car is in motion before sounding off a series of 5 beeps every 10 seconds. This is in addition to the light flashing and the usual beeping when first starting the car. Once the car is back in park, it still beeps incessantly until you shut the car off. Way overboard I think. Chevy's alarm starts bonging at you loudly the second you unbuckle if the car is in motion. I believe Honda uses something similar to Mitsubishi. So nowadays it isn't so easy to ignore.

    You probably think I never wear my seatbelt, but that's not true. I have almost worn them everytime I have ever driven. I say almost because recently for a little over a month I sometimes didn't wear my belt on my super short 1 mile roundtrip routes. Mainly because I was in and out of the car so much that it got more in the way then anything. I even tried to get out of the car a few times while still buckled in. During that time I discovered how annoying the beeper is on my Mitsu. My job moved further away from the stop so I now buckle up 100% of the time. But from that short time, I could see how distracting and annoying it is for those that choose not to wear one and I really see no need for it to even be there since it's not gov't mandated. Hell, car companies have always hated adding safety features unless forced to do so, so I don't get their fascination with the seatbelt alarm. It was fine the way it was in your Hyundai.
  • chidorochidoro Posts: 125
    I have to disagree with you and for a good reason. People who don't wear their seatbelt make a conscious decision to do so. If they want to risk their life and risk getting a ticket, then so be it. It's their choice.

    The problem with that statement is that it does effect more than just the driver making the poor decision. Car insurance, like all insurance is a pool. People who don’t wear their seatbelts drive the medical expenses up. Since the insurance company isn’t in business to lose money (in fact, they are regulated to show solvency even under catastrophic circumstances), guess who’s going to pay for it?

    So while it may be their decision to be foolish, that decision effects my wallet. No thanks, NJ rates are already ridiculously high. I hope if the person doesn’t snap it on, the car dings, hoots, and hollers.
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Posts: 4,202
    really get a chance to hear my seatbelt warning ding in my 04 Accord or my 04 Odyssey because, being the responsible adult I am, have enough common sense to buckle up.

    Insurance is all about someone's premium paying for someone else's accident. If that weren't the case insurance companies would go out of business and it would be a free for all.
  • sandman46sandman46 Posts: 1,798
    Same thing with me, get in the car and put on the seat belt, then start the car and back out of the garage. It's like just do it! Not a real difficult thing to do. Like I said in some earlier posts, the seat belt saved my life, or at least helped me to not get more serious injuries in my accident last month. Am still out of work, but starting to feel less stiff around the neck and shoulders as I started physical therapy this week. So folks...just use the seat belt...PERIOD!
    By the way, how's the baby doing? Coming up on his birthday I suspect?

    The Sandman :)
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Posts: 4,202
    the one year mark on April 2nd. He is growing and changing every day. Children are truly amazing.

    To keep (somewhat) on topic .. I had an accident (NOT my fault) in my 02 Si just 3 weeks after purchasing it. I hit some while I was going approximately 45-50 MPH. I was wearing my seatbelt and escaped with only a slight mark on my arm from where the airbag deployed. The car was totalled and I was sore for a week or so but I got off easy considering the damage to both cars.
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    This seatbelt issue is degenerating into personal insults - it's time to get back on topic, folks.
  • sequoia3sequoia3 Posts: 3
    Can anyone recommend a GREAT Independent Honda Mechanic in the Central Texas Area for my 1991 Civic? I am in Fredericksburg. Thanks.
  • pipipipi Posts: 4
    Hi, everyone.
    I own an 04 civic VP. The mileage is about 11k. At this point I changed the engine oil at a local shop(This is the second lube service since I purchased this car). Now there is a few oil leaking underneath which never happened before. Since I don't know much about car, there is no conclusion I could make by myself. However I would assume that guy who changed the oil did something wrong, maybe the oil was over added. Could anyone give me some comments, and if this will eventually damage the engine?

  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,682
    This could be nothing more than excess oil dripping off the undercarriage (if they weren't too careful when they unscrewed the filter) or perhaps they stripped the oil pan plug. How much oil is leaking? A few drops or ??? You could put a pan under the engine to see how much leaks overnight, and where it's coming from.

    You can easily tell if oil was over-added by checking the oil level via the dipstick. If you've never done that before, there are instructions in your owner's manual--it's very easy to do.
  • pipipipi Posts: 4

    thank you for you reply. The leaking is not that serious, only about a few drops. Definitly I will let a Honda dealer take a look tomorrow. Hopefully they didn't strip the oil pan plug as you mentioned.
  • Have a '94 Civic LX. Does anyone know if it's possible to install an air conditioner in it and how much does it cost in Seattle area?
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,593
    If you can find one in stock, which I doubt, it would be about 1500.00 installed.

    On a eleven year old car, it's not worth it.
  • dteskadteska Posts: 12
    I'm trying to decide between purchasing a Civic EX sedan or a Mazda3i sedan. I liked the Mazda except the ride was a little rough in city driving, and I am a little concerned about Mazda's build quality and durability compared to Honda.

    Yesterday, I took a test drive in a 2005 Civic EX sedan, and was a little surprised by the amount of exhaust noise during moderate acceleration. Is this typical of Civics, or should I test drive a different one? Otherwise, I liked the car's quiet ride, handling and overall feel. The only other complaint I had was the tinny sounding stereo which would have to go.
  • njdevilnjdevil Posts: 19
    we have a 1991 mazda MX-6 with 250,000 miles on it It still has the original clutch and turbo and runs great. we also have a 2005 honda civic ex se sedan with 5 speed. we trade our 2003 hyundai elantra gt for it . BIG MISTAKE. we should have kept the hyundai, a much better riding car with more to it at a lower price. I guess we listened to all the good reports about the honda that we decided to get one.
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