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Nissan Maxima

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  • berbelberbel Posts: 167
    Don't give up on the idea of the Goodyear RS-A's.
    Sears handles Goodyear tires and may be able to order them for you. A few weeks ago when I wanted
    Bridgestone Blizzak MZ-01's for my SE, Sears beat
    everyone's price on them. I'll guess they can can
    get better prices because of volume ordering.

    I still DO NOT understand why Nissan has chosen a
    tire size for the SE's that allows the consumer so
    little and limited buying choice. Sounds like
    someone "made a deal."
  • sysadmin1sysadmin1 Posts: 122
    To the 02 GLE Majestic BLue. Paid 27,500 then took the $1000 cash back off. How does this deal stack up to what you all have been getting? IT was loaded minus the NAV.
  • Hi,

    Does anyone know if the control buttons on the steering wheel are suppose to be lighted at night? The controls for the door locks and windows are lighted, so I would think the ones on the steering wheel would light. I couldn't find it in the owner's manual. I have a new 2002 MAXIMA GXE and just figured they would light up. Before I go to the dealer and complain, I wanted to make sure they are suppose to work.
  • volmaxvolmax Posts: 8
    I am in the buying process on a 02 SE and the dealer is trying to charge me a $435 marketing fee. Is this fee for real and has anyone actually paid this fee? I will take the 0.9% financing so I will not get the $1000 rebate. How much over invoice are people paying for a 02 SE six speed?
  • aftyafty Posts: 499
    The marketing fee is part of the dealer's invoice. If you are making a deal $X above invoice, it is included in the invoice price (but not on Edmunds) and is a legit fee. If you had already agreed to a dollar figure and then are having this fee sprung upon you, it is not legit.
  • aftyafty Posts: 499
    In my '02 Altima, the steering wheel controls do not light up. I assume it is the same for the Maxima.
  • pwitzpwitz Posts: 51
    Well, I just screwed up my 2002 GLE baby yesterday, when I slid sideways on an icy patch and rocked my rims on a high curb. I'm looking for anyone who has a 2k2 GLE who may have gone to aftermarket, and is looking to get some $$ for their stock rims. I'm looking for at least 2, and these are the seven spoke, 17" GLE style.
    Drop me a note if you have some or know where to look. Dealers don't seem to have P/N yet.
    pwitzleb@rochester.rr.com
  • I have not given up on Goodyear.....Actually I want to see the price in a place like Tirerack. The OE Potenzas are about $160 each right now, and unless the Eagles are gonna last WAY longer I could not justify the extra almost $80-$100 per tire I was quoted.

    Anyway, I have 26K right now on my 00, and I think I probably have about 10K or so to go.....will probably replace before next winter.

    Fortunately, it rarely snows in DC (at least the last few years) so I don't need Blizzaks.
  • mgt6103mgt6103 Posts: 10
    Has anyone driven the maxima se 6 speed (manual)? I have been unable to locate a 6 speed to drive. More to the point, has anyone been able to purchase or lease a 6 speed maxima se? If so, were you charged a "premium" for the hard to find manual transmission. Other cars i'm looking at include acura 3.2TL and TL-S, vw passat GLX 5 spd, audi a-4, infiniti i-35, lexus is300. thanks for any help!
  • tgif888tgif888 Posts: 351
    Hmm, in S. Cal I had seen a dealer had 6 speed Maxima. It seems the 6 speed is not selling too well.
  • mney6mney6 Posts: 116
    I have been getting 300-500 over invoice for the 5 speeds.
    Invoice fully loaded without Nav system should be 26739.
    Don't buy the nav system
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    ..in early November at VOB Nissan in Rockville Maryland. For some reason there was a 6+/- week gap between the very first 6-speeds arriving in the DC area in late September and when the next units arrived in November. I ended up getting a Honda S2000 and keeping my 1995 Maxima SE 5-speed. However, I have been called several times by different dealers in this area to ask me if I'm still in the market for a Maxima 6-speed. They seem to be available here.

    FWIW, I thought the 6-speed with the 3.5 liter engine was a noticable but not extraordinary improvement over the 2001 model. However, some of that improvement only got the car back up to the performance of my 1995. It shouldn't be, but my 190hp 1995 model definitely feels more responsive and quicker to me than the 222hp 2000/2001 models. I'm guessing the 2002 is quicker than my 1995, but not by a large margin.

    It remains interesting to me that since 1995 the Maxima has grown from 3.0 to 3.5 liters and a claimed output of 190hp to 255hp without that much of a "seat of the pants" improvement, IMO. On the other hand the BMW 530i at 3.0 liters and 225 hp is a very noticable improvement over the previous 528i (2.8 liters and 192 hp). This reinforces my belief that TEST DRIVING is much more important than reading horsepower quoting marketing ads.

    P.S. Even though they are not as plentiful, my preferred dealer (VOB) had offered me the same deal (relative to invoice) on a 6-speed as they were giving on automatics. I doubt that at this point you would need to pay a "premium" for a 6-speed, especially since they are already in Maxima rebate mode.
  • robertrrobertr Posts: 125
    I think I recall where Motor Trend tested a 1995 Maxima 5-speed and got just under 7 sec 0-60, there was also an article about the fastest cars available which included the '95 Max with a top speed of 141 mph. These numbers are about the same as my 2000 SE 5-speed, so I tend to agree with you. I had a 1997 SE automatic, and I know it was tested in the magazines slower than the 1995 auto. For some reason, the Max got slower from '95 to '99, the 2000 horsepower increase just compensated for the loss.

    By the way, how does the acceleration of the Honda S2000 compare to your Max? I remember reading an article in R&T, which said that they had to drop the clutch at something like 8000rpm to get the approx. 6 sec(?) 0-60 times, whereas a "normal" takeoff was more like 10-11 sec 0-60. (just curious since I've never driven an S2000, I bet its fun although the Max would be preferable as a daily driven all-purpose car).
  • riezriez Posts: 2,361
    Couple of automotive press mags had the new Altima 3.5SE 5-speed manual blistering 0-60 mph in about 6.25-6.30 seconds. Think MotorWeek had theirs clocked at a sizzling 5.90 seconds.

    Has anyone seen a published 0-60 mph or 0-100 kph time for new Maxima 3.5 w/6-speed manual? Will be interesting to see a published time. Motor Trend's automatic I-35 did it in 7.0 seconds.
  • godeacsgodeacs Posts: 481
    do NOT light up at night.......a minor inconvenience....
  • canadianclcanadiancl Posts: 1,078
    The car mags' published 0-60 times mean nothing because no sane owner will ever abuse his car by using the launch methods the car mags use to achieve those times. Automatic 0-60 times are more reasonably likely to be achieved in real-life situations.
  • pbhattipbhatti Posts: 87
    I haven't seen 0-60 times for maxima but a couple of people on maxima.org got about 14.3 for the 1/4 mile. I think this would put the 0-60 time under 6 sec. probably around 5.6-5.8
  • canadianclcanadiancl Posts: 1,078
    I'm not sure if there is a reliable correlation between 1/4 mile times and 0-60 times. Some cars' acceleration curves really drop off after 60 - 70 mph.
  • pbhattipbhatti Posts: 87
    I know there's no correlation between 1/4 times and 0-60 tines but, I'm actually basing it on the test times of the 2002 Nissan Altima. In the 0-60 it got 5.9sec and 14.4 for the 1/4. Therefore since they are similar cars in hp, torque and weight I just assumed their times would close to one another. Of course their gear ratios are different so that would also affect their times.
  • gerapaugerapau Posts: 211
    I don't agree with you that people are more likely to achieve results similar to the magazines with autos then those with manuals.
    You do realize that the results achieved by most magazines for auto tranny cars are done by reving the engine to high rpms while keeping a foot on the brake. Once the rpms are high the brake is released and the car takes off. This is just as damaging, if not more so, then releasing the clutch at high rpms with a manual.
  • lofquistlofquist Posts: 281
    Folks,
    I haven't posted in a while on this topic, but if you really want to save a bundle, go up to Canada to get your Max. And I'm not talking pocket change. For example, a loaded GLE sells for about $22,500. That's $4000 under US dealer invoice. There are a number of posts here and in the Pathfinder forum about those of us who have done it (over 60 now). Not difficult at all. Toronto and Vancouver have the best prices and selection.

    I promise I'll do another complete write-up soon. See post #29 above for some info I posted long ago. Just drop me an email for all the details. I'm glad to help out.

    -Jon
    jonlofquist@aol.com
  • A car's 0-60 speed and its quarter-mile speed are interesting, but don't relate much to real-life driving situations. I experience the need for speed mainly when merging (going from 20 to 60) or passing (going from maybe 50 to 70 or 80). I wish the benchmark in auto journalism for "power" as expressed by speed at least included these measures of speed. This, I suppose, is another reason to actually drive cars rather than obsessing about speeds shown in car reviews. A car that goes fast from 0-60 will probably do well when passing, but I'd prefer to see cars rated in a way that included real passing power.

    steve
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    Robertr, Since you asked...

    Let me start by stating for the record, I am not the drag racing type. I like a car with strong performace capabilities, but I'm not likely to "drop a clutch" at 6,000 rpm "launch" it. Had I done that with my 1995 Maxima SE, I'd probably be replacing it instead of enjoying an S2000 as a third car.

    That said, the S2000 is reasonably quick off the line when pushed with "normal" techniques. The real difference is that it continues up to it's 9000 rpm redline very strongly. From 0 to 30, I'd have to push the S2000 a bit to match the Maxima. From 30 to 80+, it's quite a bit stronger.

    In the 0-60 vs. 1/4 mile vs. 50-70, etc. dabate, I'd cast my vote for Road and Track's 0-100 mph times as coming the closest to matching my "seat of the pants" evaluation. Not that I ever test drove cars to those speeds. But, as others have pointed out, there are some funny things that can be done to improve or distort 0-60 times. In some cases, only one shift is necessary, in others, two are required. And, as canadianlc notes, some cars have shot much of their wad by 60-70 and others are still coming on strong. Case in point: Road and Track tested the S2000 at 5.5 seconds 0-60 vs. 6.7 seconds for the 1995 Maxima SE 5-speed. That's a fairly significant difference, but still only 1.2 seconds. The 0-100 mph ratings were 14.2 and 20.6 respectively. By my math, that means the S2000 goes from 60 to 100 in 8.7 seconds, but the Maxima takes 13.9 (i.e. 5.2 seconds / 60% longer). That is a huge difference and probably is what makes the S2000 feel a lot more powerful to me at near highway speeds. A lot of cars that appear competitive based upon 0-60 times are really not, IMO. The S2000 is actually a lot closer to an M3 in 0-100 than it is to a Maxima.

    To read this post, you'd never know that I got the S2000 based upon it's handling and sun-tanning capabilities!!
  • gg2k2segg2k2se Posts: 109
    My dealer found plenty of 6 speeds within 200 miles and I got the exact car I wanted (hard to find Tungsten) from a dealer 150 miles from home. No premium. I think the 6 speed has great seat-of-pants feel, definitely faster than my 90 SE or 2000 SE, but I can't compare to the 95-99 generation. My advice, take it for a test drive (representative of your driving) and if it's fun, buy it, don't worry about the magazines.

    Any replies to my question about Nitto tires, any experience with them. They have the 17" size.

    thanks,gg
  • Hi all,

    I have a 2001 Max with 10,500 miles on it, and had a mysterious popping noise coming out of the left front strut, when entering driveways, and the car would sway. Just got back from the dealer, and had the strut, rod assembly, and bearings replaced, all under warranty, no sweat. My question is...do struts have to be broken in? The same popping noise is gone, but a new gassy pffft...noise is heard now. Probably nothing but just wondering.
  • godeacs --- thanks for the update.....bummer!
  • robertrrobertr Posts: 125
    That was a great answer.

    On another note, are you sure 20.6 seconds for 0-100 is correct? I just looked at the Motor Trend test of the 2000 Max SE 5-speed, and they have the quarter mile in 15.1 sec at 94.4 mph, and give 13.8 sec for the 0-90 time (they don't give a 0-100 time). Based on the above, I would guess the Max should hit 100 by 17 seconds e.t.

    By the way, I feel the same as you do about driving and the car's performance capabilities. I never drop the clutch at high revs. Even if I want a fast start, most times I just quickly ease it out while increasing throttle, and then only starting at about 1500-2000 rpms. I think that the magazine road testers are much more abusive.
  • aftyafty Posts: 499
    It is possible the 2000 Maxima has better high end power than the 1995 Maxima, accounting for the difference in 0-100 times. I know that the 2k Maxima's engine was tuned more for high-end power than the '95's was, which is why 0-60 times didn't improve much despite the additional 32 hp.
  • montmaxmontmax Posts: 32
    Well R&T got the 2k 5spd Se Max to 100 in 18.6 and Motortrend in an earlier issue got the 95 5 spd to 100 in 18.9 sec robertr. The 2k-2k1 really doesnt make good use of the extra power. Autos the 95 is still the quickest auto besides the 2k2.
  • robertrrobertr Posts: 125
    You may be right about the extra power. I couldn't find the R&T test on line, but I looked at Car and Driver's June 1999 test of the 2000SE.
    Their result was 14.9 sec 0-90, and 19.5 sec 0-100. It seems odd that it would take all of 4.6 seconds for that last 10mph. That means it took 25% of the time for the last 10 mph. My Maxima "seat-of-the-pants" feels faster than that, but then I don't do it every day. :)

    By the way, CDs quarter mile was 15.6 seconds at 91 mph, so it took .7 seconds for that last 1mph. At that rate, assuming that it takes 0.7 seconds for each additional 1mph (actually, the time should increase), the additional 9mph would take 6.3 sec for a 0-100 of 21.9 seconds. It was a preproduction model, and maybe they were shifting into 4th too soon?
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