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Nissan Maxima

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  • lofquistlofquist Posts: 281
    Folks,
    I haven't posted in a while on this topic, but if you really want to save a bundle, go up to Canada to get your Max. And I'm not talking pocket change. For example, a loaded GLE sells for about $22,500. That's $4000 under US dealer invoice. There are a number of posts here and in the Pathfinder forum about those of us who have done it (over 60 now). Not difficult at all. Toronto and Vancouver have the best prices and selection.

    I promise I'll do another complete write-up soon. See post #29 above for some info I posted long ago. Just drop me an email for all the details. I'm glad to help out.

    -Jon
    jonlofquist@aol.com
  • A car's 0-60 speed and its quarter-mile speed are interesting, but don't relate much to real-life driving situations. I experience the need for speed mainly when merging (going from 20 to 60) or passing (going from maybe 50 to 70 or 80). I wish the benchmark in auto journalism for "power" as expressed by speed at least included these measures of speed. This, I suppose, is another reason to actually drive cars rather than obsessing about speeds shown in car reviews. A car that goes fast from 0-60 will probably do well when passing, but I'd prefer to see cars rated in a way that included real passing power.

    steve
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    Robertr, Since you asked...

    Let me start by stating for the record, I am not the drag racing type. I like a car with strong performace capabilities, but I'm not likely to "drop a clutch" at 6,000 rpm "launch" it. Had I done that with my 1995 Maxima SE, I'd probably be replacing it instead of enjoying an S2000 as a third car.

    That said, the S2000 is reasonably quick off the line when pushed with "normal" techniques. The real difference is that it continues up to it's 9000 rpm redline very strongly. From 0 to 30, I'd have to push the S2000 a bit to match the Maxima. From 30 to 80+, it's quite a bit stronger.

    In the 0-60 vs. 1/4 mile vs. 50-70, etc. dabate, I'd cast my vote for Road and Track's 0-100 mph times as coming the closest to matching my "seat of the pants" evaluation. Not that I ever test drove cars to those speeds. But, as others have pointed out, there are some funny things that can be done to improve or distort 0-60 times. In some cases, only one shift is necessary, in others, two are required. And, as canadianlc notes, some cars have shot much of their wad by 60-70 and others are still coming on strong. Case in point: Road and Track tested the S2000 at 5.5 seconds 0-60 vs. 6.7 seconds for the 1995 Maxima SE 5-speed. That's a fairly significant difference, but still only 1.2 seconds. The 0-100 mph ratings were 14.2 and 20.6 respectively. By my math, that means the S2000 goes from 60 to 100 in 8.7 seconds, but the Maxima takes 13.9 (i.e. 5.2 seconds / 60% longer). That is a huge difference and probably is what makes the S2000 feel a lot more powerful to me at near highway speeds. A lot of cars that appear competitive based upon 0-60 times are really not, IMO. The S2000 is actually a lot closer to an M3 in 0-100 than it is to a Maxima.

    To read this post, you'd never know that I got the S2000 based upon it's handling and sun-tanning capabilities!!
  • gg2k2segg2k2se Posts: 109
    My dealer found plenty of 6 speeds within 200 miles and I got the exact car I wanted (hard to find Tungsten) from a dealer 150 miles from home. No premium. I think the 6 speed has great seat-of-pants feel, definitely faster than my 90 SE or 2000 SE, but I can't compare to the 95-99 generation. My advice, take it for a test drive (representative of your driving) and if it's fun, buy it, don't worry about the magazines.

    Any replies to my question about Nitto tires, any experience with them. They have the 17" size.

    thanks,gg
  • Hi all,

    I have a 2001 Max with 10,500 miles on it, and had a mysterious popping noise coming out of the left front strut, when entering driveways, and the car would sway. Just got back from the dealer, and had the strut, rod assembly, and bearings replaced, all under warranty, no sweat. My question is...do struts have to be broken in? The same popping noise is gone, but a new gassy pffft...noise is heard now. Probably nothing but just wondering.
  • godeacs --- thanks for the update.....bummer!
  • robertrrobertr Posts: 125
    That was a great answer.

    On another note, are you sure 20.6 seconds for 0-100 is correct? I just looked at the Motor Trend test of the 2000 Max SE 5-speed, and they have the quarter mile in 15.1 sec at 94.4 mph, and give 13.8 sec for the 0-90 time (they don't give a 0-100 time). Based on the above, I would guess the Max should hit 100 by 17 seconds e.t.

    By the way, I feel the same as you do about driving and the car's performance capabilities. I never drop the clutch at high revs. Even if I want a fast start, most times I just quickly ease it out while increasing throttle, and then only starting at about 1500-2000 rpms. I think that the magazine road testers are much more abusive.
  • aftyafty Posts: 499
    It is possible the 2000 Maxima has better high end power than the 1995 Maxima, accounting for the difference in 0-100 times. I know that the 2k Maxima's engine was tuned more for high-end power than the '95's was, which is why 0-60 times didn't improve much despite the additional 32 hp.
  • montmaxmontmax Posts: 32
    Well R&T got the 2k 5spd Se Max to 100 in 18.6 and Motortrend in an earlier issue got the 95 5 spd to 100 in 18.9 sec robertr. The 2k-2k1 really doesnt make good use of the extra power. Autos the 95 is still the quickest auto besides the 2k2.
  • robertrrobertr Posts: 125
    You may be right about the extra power. I couldn't find the R&T test on line, but I looked at Car and Driver's June 1999 test of the 2000SE.
    Their result was 14.9 sec 0-90, and 19.5 sec 0-100. It seems odd that it would take all of 4.6 seconds for that last 10mph. That means it took 25% of the time for the last 10 mph. My Maxima "seat-of-the-pants" feels faster than that, but then I don't do it every day. :)

    By the way, CDs quarter mile was 15.6 seconds at 91 mph, so it took .7 seconds for that last 1mph. At that rate, assuming that it takes 0.7 seconds for each additional 1mph (actually, the time should increase), the additional 9mph would take 6.3 sec for a 0-100 of 21.9 seconds. It was a preproduction model, and maybe they were shifting into 4th too soon?
  • plummanplumman Posts: 21
    By the way, I got a salesman to give me a price of 22999 for a 6-speed, black no roof, before tax, but with the 1k rebate. They had 2 SE's selling for 20888, with auto and cloth. My guess is these rebates will continue for a while longer.
  • pbhattipbhatti Posts: 87
    I think Nissan is using the rebates to make room for the newly updated Maxima that they are supposed to release as a 2003 (mid-2002 or earlier???). The rebates are also for the Pathfinder. This way most people will have already pre-ordered the Z or the g35 so a new maxima (rwd, 4L 300hp V8?) won't cut into their sales.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    Montmax:

    I wouldn't advise cross comparing Motortrend and Road and Track performance test results. Motortrend seems to consistently quote faster times and higher skidpad ratings. Example - On the S2000, Road & Track's numbers are 0-60 in 5.5 seconds, 1/4 mile in 14.1 and 0.90g skidpad. Motortrends are 5.2 seconds, 13.8 seconds and 0.96 g's respectively. I suspect that Road and Track is a little more reasonable in their testing procedures.

    Robertr:

    I made a mistake. The times I quoted above were from Car and Driver's (not Road and Track's) June 1994 issue with the 1995 Nissan Maxima SE on the cover. The full test results are:

    0-30 2.4 seconds
    0-40 3.6 " (shift to second at 38 mph)
    0-50 5.0 "
    0-60 6.7 "
    0-70 9.0 " (shift to third at 67 mph)
    0-80 11.5 "
    0-90 14.9 "
    0-100 20.6 " (shift to fourth at 98 mph)
    0-110 26.2 "
    0-120 39.0 " (shift to fifth at 131 mph)

    1/4 mile - 15.3 sec @ 91 mph
    Top speed - 135 mph
    Lateral accel. - 0.78g

    I think Car and Driver's numbers are more consistent with Road and Track's than Motortrends, but I still wouldn't compare them directly.
  • raaizinraaizin Posts: 31
    Has anyone noticed that their hood flutters slightly when going over 70MPH. It occurs on the drivers side behind the front left wheelwell. My hood is properly closed and there are no gaps to suggest it is misaligned. Car is a 2k2 SE, are there any fixes for this.
  • 92drexel92drexel Posts: 153
    I hear good things about Nitto tires (low cost, good performance, great treadwear). I almost bought a set last year (came really close).

    I'd go for it. Just make sure you don't get catch in the snow with them because I don't think that they are rated as All-Season tires (I could be wrong though). Hi performance tires are great in the dry and rain, but are terrible in snow and ice.

    You might even want to consider buying a 17" or 18" set of rims and fitting them with the Nittos. Then swapping them out for your original rims every winter (if you live in a cold climate).
  • Yes I do notice it and it peeves me off to no end...I've posted comments about this a couple of times....looks like we're not alone...I've been to the dealership and had them adjust the hood adjusters under the hood...however..it lowers the vibration but the adjustment widens the gap between your grille and hood noticeably. I had the dealer put it back the way it was and I live with the flutter,I couldnt stand that much gap.....Joe D.
  • leonivleoniv Posts: 120
    I have the same hood "flutter" on my 01 GXE. I also had this same problem on my 96 J30. I've learned to live with it, but it still bothers me. I'll see if the dealer can correct it on my next visit.
  • canadianclcanadiancl Posts: 1,078
    when they adjust those hood adjusters, aside from widening the gap with the grille, would it also make the hood not level with the top of the fenders? That would bug me even more than the flutter.
  • will38will38 Posts: 30
    I have a 2002 SE with the Bose stereo. The subwoofer rattles. Has anyone else had this problem? Did you have it repaired, and if so, how was it done? I would appreciate any help.
  • nowakj66nowakj66 Posts: 709
    I am close to accepting an offer for an 02 Maxima GLE with all options but NAV.

    Sterling Mist with black leather interior

    -Sun Roof
    - Sun Roof Wind Deflector
    - Side air bags
    - Traction Control
    - Merridian
    - Floor Mats
    - Splash Guards

    $540 destination
    $500 marketing charge

    $27583 ($400 over invoice).

    Thinking of moving before 0.9 financing closes. The sense from the dealer is can't guaranty financing rate will be there in Feb -- they may emphasise Sentra or some other car.

    A good deal?

    Better deals to come as 2003 revised Max approaches?

    Thx. -- Joe
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