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Nissan Maxima

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  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    The rental SE I drove (it was an 02) rode a little softer than my 02 Jetta with 17" tires and sport suspension. Any time you firm up the suspension and put larger tires on a car, it's going to increase the firmness of the ride. Anyone knows that, I thought. If you don't like the way the SE rides, get the GLE.
  • aggiedogaggiedog Posts: 238
    02 SE: After six weeks I finally got the stereo replaced today because of the left side speakers. When I tried to load the CD's in to check out the speakers, the CD didn't work at all. They then put my old radio back in and ordered a new one. When I loaded the CD's in the old radio, the left side speakers now work fine and sound as good as the right side. Strange. Maybe the problem is not with the radio but with the installation from the factory. Why else would the speakers work now? I will probably take the replacement anyway when it comes in, but I just wanted to put it out there to anyone who has not had their radio replaced yet.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    I think build location is more important than you think. None of the foreign manufacturers I'm aware of haven't had initial quality problems with models that they have tried to build in the US.

    Back in 1994, when I bought a Japanese made 1995 Maxima SE, Honda and Toyota were still having fit and finish and some mechanical problems with their US built Accords and Camrys. It wasn't devastating to either company, but it hurt their otherwise exceptional reputations for awhile.

    In the case of the ML320 and Z3, ask any (honest) senior executive from MB or BMW and they will tell you horror stories. One of my neighbors is the senior government affairs exec with Daimler Chrysler and even his own ML320 had fit and finish unbefitting to Mercedes. I have heard rumors that the Motorsports Division of BMW didn't want to send their "M" engines to Spartansburg for insertion into the former Z3 based M Roadster because they were not being built to the same quality standards as the rest of thier German made counterparts (i.e. M3 & M5). The fact that the Honda S2000 is mostly hand built in limited numbers in Tochigi (rated one of the highest quality plants in the world) factored into my purchase decision, especially after hearing the less than glowing reviews of the Z3 quality control.

    Nissan has had some time to work out the production bugs with their US built Altimas for a couple of years, so perhaps the 2004 Maxima quality won't suffer. I hope not.
  • Honda has been building Accords since the at least the mid 80's (they actually started exporting Accord LX-i's to Japan in 88) and Camrys have been built in the US since 1988. If either brand had quality control issues in 94 (I can't recall any) it was not the result of being produced in the US. In fact, 90-93 Accords are one of the most sought after models in the used car market along with the 92-96 Camrys. I have not seen any substantial information that shows any quality decline in Honda or Toyota as a result of being built in the US. They have both been building cars here for almost 20 years, and have all along been regarded as the best built sedans in their class.
  • My 99 Acura 3.0 CL that was built in the States was a rattle fest! Also, none of the body panels lined up very good either. I had to take it to the dealership many times for rattles and shakes. I had 29K on it when I got rid of it.

    My 02 Maxima SE has 23K and has not been to the dealer for any fit, finish or rattle issues. The thing is a tank. I won't be getting rid of this car for awhile!

    Obi
  • rrrevrrrev Posts: 2
    When I bought my 2001 Maxima SE 20th AE, I was also looking at the WRX, Passat and the Acura TL. I chose the Maxima, in large part, because it gave me the best sporty-to-practicality ratio, aside from the WRX, which was in short supply at the time, and felt a little 'cheap'. As it turns out, it appears that my Maxima (15K miles, loaded) has kept its value the worst of the group, in some cases by far. In fact, it cost more than the WRX new, and now is worth less. Am I missing something, or are Maximas a depreciation nightmare?
  • They are a depreciation nightmare. Here a $28,000 SE is advertised for $21,000. Heavy discounts and special interest rates will wreck havoc on any car, the Maxima is one of them.
  • kennyg5kennyg5 Posts: 360
    I think Maxima's depreciation is about average. However, if a brand new 02 $28k Max can actually be bought for $21k, it sounds quite pathetic. Likewise, you can now buy a brand new 02 Acura RL, which has an MSRP of $43k, for only $34k. Although I have not done a survey, my guess is that many American-made cars depreciate at a even steeper rate than the Max or the RL.

    On the other hand, if you keep the car for 8 to 10 years (the Max can easily be kept for such time due to its reliability), the depreciation factor is of little or no significance. As I said, and I believe many of the board members agree, the Max is plenty of car for its value.

    As a testimonial (I don't get paid by Nissan for doing this but I do not mind if I get paid), my current GLE is my third Max, and I recall Nissangirl having said that her current Max is her 4th, and there must be quite a few members out there on this Board who are repeat buyers and owners of multiple Maxs. Depreciation notwithstanding, the Max retains its faithful followers despite its minor shortcomings and the fact that we are still awaiting for that purrrrfect 4-door sports dream machine.
  • Kennyg5 - good point on depreciation being a moot point if you keep the car for 8 -10 years.

    Of course the Max is not in a unique situation since many other manufacturers are offering incentives/discounts on their new models which leads to the lower resale value.

    For those who place a premium on resale value, the Max may not be for you, but it does have alot of other qualities that are worth a look.
  • My wife has a 2000 Maxima SE and she was quoted a price of $72 by our local Nissan dealer for installing the microfilter. Her car has 15,000 miles on it, and I understand that it's time to change it. Does it need to be changed at 15,000 miles? Does this price sound about right? Is it that hard to change yourself? If it's not hard, are there any on-line instructions available that walk you through it? Many thanks in advance.
  • On courtesyparts.com they have the filter for $44.95 and instructions on how to install it.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    Another factor that hurts the Max is that some rental fleets are now stocking them. That hurts the resale of any car.
  • nabinabi Posts: 15
    Hi, all. I got a 03 Max SE auto for my wife today. It looks sharp, and she likes it. We tried Altima 2.5, but interior was not impressive. GXE base was our first choice, but empty space for fog lamps was killer. Dealer was asking $300 for the lamps. After all, we settled with SE by paying $650 over GXE base. This is what I got.
    SE auto, trunk mat, floor mats, splash guards
    MSRP: $26,456
    Paid: $22,500 +tax($1,125), tag&title($136), processing fee($25)
    I had gap insurance($299). $0 down, $0 payment for 90days, 2.9%APR for 60 months...
    Did I do OK with the purchase?

    The dealer also recommended Nissan's extened warranty, but I did not make decision on it. Is it any better than ones from 3rd party warranty companies?
    How do you think?

    Any way, I hope it would not cause any problem.
  • With all the super financing deals (0 down, 0 for 60 months) consumers are trading in their autos and purchasing new. This effects the resale value on all cars. Let's face it. There is a GLUT of preowned cars of all types on the market right now. Take your pick and get a super deal - whether its brand new and totally interest free, or slightly owned with thousands to be had in savings. But don't make your choice based on resale value! Find the car you love and you won't worry about parting with it.
  • Thanks for your reply and the links. I looked at the installation instructions. Considering the part itself sells discounted at $45, $27 for professional installation isn't unreasonable. Looks like you have to fiddle with the airbag wires, which I sure wouldn't want to mess up, so I'll probably have the dealer do it. Thanks again.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    Sounds like you got a great deal - that works out to about $1,200 under invoice, if my math is correct. I'm assuming your price included the $1,000 rebate??

    Interesting that you got 0 options. That's how I justified getting my 1995 SE 5-speed over an Altima when I was on a tight budget. Only option I got was anti-lock brakes (since became standard) at a whopping $1,000. But they've paid for themselves by avoiding a few encounters with idiot drivers. I don't think I've seen more than one or two other SE's without a sunroof since I bought mine.

    As for the extended warranty, I personally advise against it. Finally, at 8 years and 130k+ miles, I've had two repair items - water pump ($550) and starter ($420). But, prior to that I had absolutely nothing go that would have been covered by an extended warranty. It seems from others I've talked to that the Maxima is about as reliable as they come and if some occasional fluke doesn't pop up in the first 3 years or 36k miles, your'e probably good for another 100k after that.
  • I got the same price on my '03 SE (Dark Gray) w/Frost Leather. However, my interest rate is 3.9%, so you got a better deal on your financing than me.

    What color did you get?

    Enjoy the ride.
  • nabinabi Posts: 15
    habitat1,
    It includes $1000 rebate. It had 90 miles on odo. That made me a little bit uncomfortable, but I took the car with free 3 oil changes.
    I wanted 6-speed, but it's for my wife. I got SE over GXE, but AUTO.
    Regarding the extended warranty, I'll see how my max runs for next a year or two. Thanks for your input.

    nissangirl,
    It seems that you got a better deal. I got 03 SE auto w/o leather for the money. The color is sterling mist exterior/black interior (basically gray with black interior). We like soft feel of interior fabric.
    I have not had any purchase with loan before. I guess using my credit card on everything might have helped my credit score. Well, I don't even know what my score is. I just took the APR since I was told I was quaified.

    When I testdrove SE, I did not have bumpy road. My wife may not like harder ride. Do our OEM tires play positve or negative role on a bit noisy ride? How do you guys like your Bridgestone RE92 tires?

    Thanks.
  • jimxojimxo Posts: 423
    The new Maxima is not for me. I'm glad I just purchased my new Lexus GS430.


    http://www.freshalloy.com/site/cars/nissan/2004/maxima/preview/home.shtml

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