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Oldsmobile Intrigue

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  • jg28jg28 Posts: 257
    30 pieces???? Geez! Where would you put all that? All I would want is a center console piece and some that went up and enhanced the radio/hvac control center. Maybe a couple pieces on the doors and that's about it. The burlwood is nice but I'd really like something lighter... in maple. Where's a good place to get something in the five pieces? How difficult is it to install? Did you do it yourself or have a professional do it? I don't blame ya about the pictures not getting posted. I've been meaning to post my pics of the relocated rocket insignia and haven't done it yet (no digital cam).

    Dindak, it was a v6 that I test drove. The tranny was smoother or the engine; nice 17inch wheels too. Very very nice power. I thought the interior was nice even though everyone says it's hard plastic. It's certainly not the cheap plastic that's on the underside of our Intrigues.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    jg28 : Sounds good. I'll have to pop by the local Nissan dealer and check one out one day.

    oldsman01 : I agree. Zero advertising since the x-files campaign. Oldsmobile really needed to hammer home performance if they wanted to change their image. Imagine an Intrigue in place of the 02 Altima in those new ads. Now THAT WOULD HAVE SOLD INTRIGUES!!!
  • focusfocus Posts: 225
    To all of you who helped me along in buying a new intrigue, much appreciated. Picked up my new intrigue yesterday. Paid $25215 cdn less my trade in and my gm points, net difference $12000 tax in.
    Purchased with cash from Wilson in Richmond hill.
  • fjk57702fjk57702 Posts: 539
    I think that Olds missed its target in what advertising it did, but that isn't the whole problem. One basic problem is that the Olds line was aimed at the "European sedan" market. But lets face facts, FWD is not going to get this market segment in any big way. With the Aurora, I think pricing is a big problem. But the V8 probably costs about $3000 more to build than the 3800 does. Now that the Olds line is terminating, I'm not sure that they should "waste" a lot of money on advertising. They do need to do some advertising, but the Olds marketing division is winding down.
  • focusfocus Posts: 225
    DISGUSTING - in one word. I told them three times not to buff up the car as it will leave swirl mark on it. They ignored this simple request and when i picked it up, i can see fine scratch mark all over my dark blue car! I guess GM's motto is give us full price (saturn) for excellent service, or else...
    Spent 3.5 hours at dealership on closing date, they worked you all over from a $1000 difference to $200, they made you wait and wait and intended to wear you down. To get the best deal, you must prepared to walk away.
    With all these dealerships, i found a severe lack of product knowledge, response time is from none to 2 weeks. Most would like to charge me the same profit margin as in other time of the year.
    I don't know the difference between pcs and non-pcs, as i never own one before.
    Now I have to look for some really good polish and wax to fix this scratch problem.....
  • one2oneone2one Posts: 626
    Check these sites out. Make sure to look at the pattern. 30 pieces sounds like a lot but it really isn't. Some pieces look like one. For example, surrounding the center air vent I have a piece but there's also one that covers the center of the vent... it's confusing. Look at the first link to get a picture of what I'm saying.


    Yep, did it all by myself. I used a blowdryer. In fact, the only things you'll really need are a blowdryer and regular rubbing alcohol. The instuctions basically say to position the piece BEFORE removing backing (belive me, you don't want to try pulling it off), clean area w/alcohol, wipe provided expoxy onto area, heat the wood so it's flexible, remove the backing and place in desired spot. I added a little more to that. I also heated the dash where I was going to place the wood. That way when the wood cooled, the dash and wood would constrict at a similar rate. It's best to do this when the weather is warm (hot really).


    Joshua Wood Trim

    Exotic Wood Dash

    Custom Auto Trim

    Wood Dash Factory

  • one2oneone2one Posts: 626
    Do not fret, my friend. If you are going to use Zaino products, they're be gone anyway. You can also use Meguiars "Scratch X". It's supposed to remove swirl marks. I say "supposed" because I use another one of their polishes (I assume a cheaper version) in the red bottle. It's part of a 3 step process and the 2nd step is the polish. It works GREAT for me... and like I said, that's one of their cheaper polishes. I do finish it up with their "Gold Class" wax.

    Because of the weather, I haven't hand washed it in over a month. I've sent it thru the car wash 2x during that period. I can begin seeing swirls if I get really close. But even in direct sunlight, if you don't know they're there, you won't. And the shine and finish even when dirty are incredible! We saw another Intrigue next to us on the road, same color (Midnight Blue), and it was obvious they didn't "care for" the paint. Was clean and shined, but not like mine. And mine was dirty!

    Anyway, PepBoys carries their line of products. Get the polish in the red bottle and you'll be amazed at how easily and quickly the swirls will come out.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Sounds like a good price. Cash deal must have given you some manufacturer discount also.

    When I bought mine, I went to carcostcanada.com and got the invoice for $45. I called the dealer and gave her the price I would pay (which was $900 over CDN invoice less the $45 I spent to get the invoice). 10 minutes later I got the ok and the deal was done. I don't have the patience to sit in a dealer for that long negotiating. Signed all the papers I instructed her to have ready when I got there and I was on my way in half an hour.

    I remember the first dealer I went to was that old style "where do you want to start negotiating" type place. The 60 year old salesman was irritating me from the time I walked in. I walked out after 5 minutes of that crap.

    Are the swirl marks bad or very faint?
  • teoteo Posts: 2,508
    The Impala is the best selling large sedan in the GM lineup right now. It is ranked in 8th place (150,599 units sold as of 9/2001). The Olds Intrigue has ranked in 43rd place and is sales has slipped almost 3K units when compared to the same period last year. It seems that not even the 0% financing and the 5/60 warranty can't save the Intrigue:


    http://www.autosite.com/editoria/asmr/svolfc.asp

  • tomcat630tomcat630 Posts: 854
    The X-Files tie in was good, but it was one of many ads where the name "Oldsmobile" was virtually invisible. They expected buyers to know where to go to buy one.

    Well, most buyers don't live in Michigan and know what cars Olds sells of the top of their heads. Also, they were too chicken to dump the Olds name and merge the new cars into Saturn.
  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 2,024
    That seems an awfully good price. $25k Cdn for a GL with PCS and leather? Awesome. I've been looking here and the dealers have (a) no 2001s left and (b) only 2002 GXs, all of which sticker at 30k. If a car like yours showed up new at a dealer here, I might have to jump...

    2011 Buick Regal Turbo, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Don't see that many Impala's riding around and many I do see are rentals and police cars. Is that a retail sales number or a total sales number.
  • teoteo Posts: 2,508
    Total sales. Here in South Florida there are quite a number of base Impalas as well as LS. Most LS are private owners while base sedans are a mix of private owners/fleet.

    Still, 150,599 cars to date is a considerable number. The car is selling very well and not necesesarily to just Police and renatl fleets. By the way, no police agencies in South Florida use Police Impalas, strictly Crown Victorias and old Caprices.
  • teoteo Posts: 2,508
    BTW, do you have any sales charts for Canadian sales??
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    I have no idea where on the web those numbers would be. I see partial sales numbers in the paper sometimes but I am not sure of the source. I will check the source next time.

    Some local police forces and the OPP (Ontario Provincial Police) are now using Impala police cruisers around here. They look much better than those crappy Crown Vic's. I probably shouldn't say that as the Crown Vic's are made about 1/2 hour from here.
  • tomcat630tomcat630 Posts: 854
    I see quite a few "real" (non rental) 2000+ Impalas around Chicago. One can tell if it is not a rental if there are dealer tags or personalized stickers, etc.
  • oldsman01oldsman01 Posts: 1,203
    Well this morning it was about 38 degrees when I left for work and the Intrigue's climate control did very well. It went to the heat mode(floor) and held the blower off until the engine was warm then when it did come on, it sort of ramped up rather than blasting you at full speed as some do. And the engine heated up very quickly. The heated seat was wonderful too. By the time I got the work, I did not want to get out of the car it was so comfortable.
  • b4zb4z Posts: 3,372
    We need to get you to actually drive an impala.
    Set up an appointment with the dealer who had the Z and let us know your impressions.
  • focusfocus Posts: 225
    One to one - actually checked out the meguiars web site through the edumund's link last night,i like what i read but cannot find any testimonial, then your post come along - Great Timing! will see where i can buy it in toronto.
    Dindak - swirl mark is faint. cash price included the $3,500 discount. Last year i bought my foucs through auto-by-tel, $500 over invoice, checked with couple dealers, cannot match, deal done. It was really painless, however, i didn't have much luck with gm.
    Ab348 - don't forget, we canadian are poorer cousin to the american. most cars are at a 25% premium (should be 50%+ using the exchange rate), except saturn which are 40 to 50% more. There are a lot of US dealers up here bidding for used car. As Jay Leno preceived the other night, $1 us$ is worth million of cdn$.
    Vcjumper - need to get the name of that tint place from you. what colour did you get and how much? Anything else to watch out for (tint)?
  • vcjumpervcjumper Posts: 1,110
    I got Solar gard 35% metallic at Total Auto Glass in Etobicoke, they did a good job. The tough part of tinting the intrigue is the useless large dot matrix at the top of the rear window. Mine isn't perfect there (hard to get the tint to stick down everywhere with all the small black dots) but better than other cars I've seen with a similar matrices.

    Wherever you get it done, you get the rear window in one piece, get metallic or semi-metallic, and make sure you leave your windows closed for a week or more with the now cold weather. I think I paid $225 or $250.
  • jg28jg28 Posts: 257
    I did some research and found that K&N has a panel air filter within milimeters of the factory one. It fits perfectly. I just put it in tonight and already notice a difference. It's great. Part number is 33-2086. Creates a perfect seal, no problem at all.

    I also got some of those PIAA "white" headlights. I thought it would improve vision. It doesn't really but they do look pretty sharp. I was please with how easy it is to change the headlights. The air filter isn't so easy because I had to remove the crossbar (to make sure the filter sealed properly).
  • one2oneone2one Posts: 626
    jg28::: Great news! In the 3.8 Intrigue one can use the same filter that Buick Regal uses. What car shares part number 33-2086?

    The only thing I really, really don't like about the Intrigue is the placement and shape of the air filter. The 3800 was MUCH, MUCH easier to replace. That's one reason why I want the K&N-- so I don't have to go under there again for another 93,000 miles. I took the top of the housing off the hose. Didn't feel like removing the crossbar. Looking back in hindsight, it probably would have been easier to take off the cross bar.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    focus : The car companies subsidize Canadian prices a bit because if they didn't we would have a serious affordablity problem. It's offset with the money made with car exports from Canadian plants. The value of C$ has dropped so much in the past 3 years. Great for Americans buying here though.

    Glad you got a good deal. Autobytel gave me a good price also, but the dealer was 45+ minutes from my house. It was too far to just pop in after work, especially through Toronto traffic.

    jg28 : Is that filter for the 3.5L??
  • one2oneone2one Posts: 626
    I used GM Buypower to get my Intrigue. Took all of 5 mintues to come up with a price. Salesperson went straight to invoice. Of course, he started from sticker and took off "dealer rebates" until it got to invoice. I didn't care as long as the bottom line was the same. I was going to push for the 3% holdback. But because I didn't have to dicker, I thought it reasonable to give them that as part of their profit.

    My salesperson was really good and I'd use him again in a heartbeat. One thing he pointed out to me was that there are two prices they use-- one for the walk-in buyer, the other for internet shoppers. Internet shoppers get the best price. He even showed me how they calculate the price with the invoice number(?). It's nothing more than basic encryption; you know- A=5, B=7, C=9, etc.

    The reason on-line shoppers get the better price with less hassle is because GM is trying to push Buypower and justify the cost of creating and maintaining the site. I was sent 2 surveys related to it-- pre and post sale. They want the process to be as painless as possible for internet shoppers. Also, the reasoning is that if a person was diligent enough to go to their web site for their vehicle purchase, then they likely went to other sites such as Edmunds, Car Point, Kelly Blue Book, etc. and know what invoice should be. So instead of fighting with a person who probably knows as much or more about the car than the dealership, give them what they want and make up the difference on the walk-in buyer.
  • evandroevandro Posts: 1,108
    I've also bought my Bonneville through BuyPower and it was as painless as you said. The Internet sales manager was open and said up front that he figured I knew how much the invoice was and that he would accept an offer at the invoice price. When I went to the dealer in person, I asked to see the invoice and that was what I paid for her.

    It was the easiest and smoothest car purchase experience I've had!
  • white6white6 Posts: 588
    Whoa! You are looking at K&N filter all wrong. Just because you don't have to replace it doesn't mean you don't have to maintain it. K&N filters require CLEANING on a regular basis. That means removing the filter element and cleaning it using their "kit." If the only reason you have for spending $50 on a K&N is so you don't have to bother with the air filter again, you're going to be disapointed.
  • one2oneone2one Posts: 626
    I feel where your coming from. But I change my filter about once every 3 oil changes. Obsessive-compulsive? Yeah. But I've noticed over the years that following the scheduled interval makes performance suffer. In my old Intrigue I used a K&N and I know it requires cleaning. But nowhere near what has to be done with paper filters. My biggest reason for a K&N is performance. But it doesn't hurt to not have to change it as often as I normaly do :-)
  • one2oneone2one Posts: 626
    Amen!

    It was such a smooth experience I wanted to go back and buy another car even though I wasn't in a position to do it! They didn't even try to hustle the extra add-ons at closing. I'd purchase another GM vehicle over any other brand just because of the way I was treated. And this place sold everything from Chevy to Jaguar.
  • vcjumpervcjumper Posts: 1,110
    What car is the K&N filter for the 3.5L in the Intrigue supposed to be for?
  • focusfocus Posts: 225
    for my new 01 intrigue $1768 from caa, has been with them for over 10 years, 20+ years driving experience, 6 stars rating(highest). Inside the new car pouch, there is a brochure for GM insurance, got a quote for $1516. I guess i will be switching.
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