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Oldsmobile Intrigue

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  • Looks like it's time to visit the dealer. I'll take a run at them for the flicker fix, but seems there are 3 more warranty items to take care of while they have it. Only 11,000 miles on this 2001 GL.

    Remember way..... back when the driver's door automatically locks upon exiting without hitting the remote button? It did that at the dealer so they documented it for future record. It's still doing it but I always take my keys now.

    The latest electronic glitch is that the trunk will pop open while driving down the street. You can hear the "click" like the remote button has been pushed and when you look out the back window you can see the spoiler bouncing. It's happened at least 3 times in the past 6 weeks and so far hasn't caused much of a problem execept for having to pull over to close it.

    The biggest concern is the loud rattle coming from the front driver side. Certain rough city streets really make it sound like it's losing parts up there! Could this be the strut problem?
  • tomcat630tomcat630 Posts: 854
    GM should bite the bullet and make the Bravada and Olds minivan Buick models for 2003. At the same time, let remaining Olds dealers sell them under the current phase out timetable.

    The Aurora could go to Saturn, but then it would have to have plastic body panels, so looks like a "no go". The Intrique's componentry can just be fitted to Impalas, GP's, and Regals. Finally, the Alero would just fade away quietly.
  • oscarz2oscarz2 Posts: 153
    Are you around?
  • mirthmirth Posts: 1,212
    Actually, I just checked out www.naias.com. Oldsmobile is on the floorplan, so I guess it's going to be there.
  • oldsman01oldsman01 Posts: 1,203
    I've said before that GM should take what worked well at Olds and apply it to other brands. My moves would be to give Buick the minivan, Saturn the Alero, Cadillac the Bravada and either Buick or Cadillac the Aurora. The Aurora would make a great Park Avenue replacement, but it would also give Cadillac a two pronged entry-level luxury approach(a la Lexus). The Aurora(in V8 form only) would give Caddy a model for those who simply want a smooth luxury car ride and lots of features and the CTS would appeal to those who prefer a more sporting side. Lincoln is planning to get a version of the Explorer so the Bravada would naturally feel right at home in the Cadillac fold.
  • oldsman01oldsman01 Posts: 1,203
    Local auto show here last fall had all five models on display. I also noticed while watching the Citrus Bowl New Year's Day that GM was one of the sponsors and it looked like they had a Bravada sitting on the side of the field near the endzone. Also, noticed a big "Oldsmobile" banner hanging on one of the walls in front of the stands. Interesting that GM still pushes the brand at events like this when they have other newer models they are trying to promote. Unless Lutz has been listening to us afterall:)
  • oldsman01oldsman01 Posts: 1,203
    The Intrigue uses the turn signal lamps for DRLs while the Alero uses the actual headlamps at a lower level.
  • tdartdar Posts: 4
    I just got a 1999 intrigue and love it except for the rear speakers. I would like to change them but I can't figure out how to remove the old ones! Anyone done this and care to share the secret.

    Thanks for your help
  • jg28jg28 Posts: 257
    I'm around. What's up?
  • vcjumpervcjumper Posts: 1,110
    It is a pain in the butt, you basically have to remove the rear deck before you can remove the speakers. Did you change the front 5.25" drivers yet? I found that made a bigger difference, especially since I prefer the bulk of the sound coming from in front of me rather than from behind me(I don't listen to my home stereo facing away from it if I can help it!)
  • redly_oneredly_one Posts: 122
    Funny that GM would bother, but they show up on the floor plan between GM Corporate and Saturn.


    http://www.naias.com/showtalk/floorplans.pdf


    GM must be hurting, they cut rates paid for contract employees by 7%, announced today. Doesn't sound like the employees will be getting many perks this year either.

  • oscarz2oscarz2 Posts: 153
    Got the front brace from GPstore and just like you said, presses on the power steering line creating a whine. Raised the brackets as much as possible with a couple of washers but not enough to eliminate the whine. Moreover, it presses down on top of my coolant tank not to mention I had to cut some of the plastic trim off the coolant-tank mount to allow for the bracket. Was that your case also? What's your build date? If the bar was just a tad thinner it would be a perfect fit.

    Not to worry, I'm a die hard and will have some of the bar grinded down a bit to allow for the coolant tank and power steering line. Although the integrity will be slightly compromised, It's not a safety issue and chromoly is very strong. I don't believe the force on the bar will be enough to be a factor, even in the most severe cornering.

    I e-mailed GPstore and the guy replied that there should be no problem grinding it. Wall thickness is .058" except the last 1.5" of either side is solid with a tube adapter that has been welded to the end of the bar. Should have the rear brace from SLP this week.
  • focusfocus Posts: 225
    Hey: Vcjumper, what front speakers did you replaced it with? both woofer and tweeter? Did you have to remove the door panel to access the woofer and tweeter. Were you able to retain steering wheel control? With the cd changer in your trunk, i suppose you had to run wire along the baseboard. i intended to install my sony units and is wondering how best to go about it.
  • jg28jg28 Posts: 257
    No problem with the coolant tank. I'm not sure what you had to break off. I notice that it sits right on top of it but otherwise haven't had a problem there. Build date on my 2000GX is 11/99. Before you grind down the bar, you may want to get some insulation material and wrap the bar. I purchased some sound insulation tape from soundproofing.org and wrapped the bar with it. It works for awhile but the stuff compresses. I have to add some each week. I'll eventually get enough to solve the problem altogether I believe. It's not perfect but better than grinding the bar I think.

    Anyway, have you noticed a big improvement? I think I notice the strut tower braces on bumps more than in cornering but like I said it's hard to tell cause I put the new sway bars on at the same time. She does corner more crisply than ever though.

    Was on a vacation over New Year's and rented an Escape. I was pretty impressed. Good headroom (although I'm spoiled by the legroom in the Intrigue). Good power. It is definitely in my next list. Switching into something other than my Intrigue would be difficult, so I think something radically different like an SUV would help soothe the loss of the Intrigue.

    I was offered invoice for a 2002 Maxima GLE. Don't fit as well in it as the Intrigue. Still, lot of money. But it was my second choice before the Intrigue (mostly for financial reasons). I'll accept any fatherly advice from any of my elders here about what to do. I've made double, triple and quadruple payments on my Intrigue and now only owe $6K on it. I could pay it off by spring. But I'm so concerned about long term problems. Every day she gets more creaky and I can't believe we're still having the alternator problems. I think my "redesigned" one must've been a fluke because I haven't had any problems since it was fixed. Something that has occurred to me is that maybe the dealers that have replaced it were unethical and simply swapped an old model? I mean, it just seems so unlikely that the redesigned alternator seems to have completely resolved my problem and others who've had it done it hasn't.

    Anyway Oscarz, let me know when you wanna go cornering in the canyon! Smile.
  • oscarz2oscarz2 Posts: 153
    Focus, replace the unit first. You may be satisfied and decide not to bother with the speakers, unless your a super-thumper. To my knowledge, steering wheel controls will not work with any aftermarket unit unless they've recently come out with an adapter.

    jg28, did you get the "next-level" brace or when did you buy yours? Otherwise, maybe your coolant-tank mount is a bit different. I have a 99 (4-99).

    I noticed crisper cornering and it seems like there wasn't as much body roll but it may have been my imagination. We'll see how the rear one adds to it. I kept the bar on for a day but the noise drove me batty so I removed it. Insulation will only press the line further, so I'm gonna grind the bar. If worse comes to worse, I'll get a thinner, measured bar from a metal shop to connect the brackets. This is experimental anyway so I don't mind.

    My alternator was replaced about 6 months ago (for the 2nd time) with 10464395 and I haven't noticed any dimming or flicker since (knock on wood). If you've noticed, new Intrigues are experiencing the dimming along with GPs. Just have to wait on GM engineers.
  • oscarz2oscarz2 Posts: 153
    On another note, my car is a creeky rattle bucket too but only when it's below 68 or so and there is no passenger. With someone in the other seat, it settles down quite a bit. When it's warm out (Arizona by the way), which is more than half the year, it's much better minus a couple of plastic radio or a/c buttons making noise over rough roads.

    The car is very solid, it's some of the interior (temperature-sensitive-plastic-tin) components that are not all tight fitting that makes it sound/feel like it's not sometimes. As much as it annoys me at times, I still want to keep this car. Too many pluses outweigh the negatives.
  • vcjumpervcjumper Posts: 1,110
    Soundgate makes a steering wheel interface adapter for Sony units that use certain remotes, dunno if your Sony unit is one of them. Look for it on Crutchfield.

    I have a JL Audio sub, Polk Audio front speakers, and Kenwood rears, I have a GX so no steering wheel controls.
  • vcjumpervcjumper Posts: 1,110
    When it is cold I have rattles coming from the little plastic pieces on the front doors that hold the tweeters on the 6 speaker systems and are just hollow on the 4 speaker systems. Thinking of applying some sound deadener for a couple bucks to the back of them and maybe the plastic that covers the A-pillars as well.
  • jgriffjgriff Posts: 362
    Sounds like a one big crying game here on the Ol' Intrigue thread. Seems like everyone is crying about this-n-that, and GM can't seem to find a good solid permanent fix.

    Sorry guys, not trying to be a jerk or rain on your parade, but that seems to be all I have been reading about for the last couple of months.

    Question is, is it going to get better or worse ??

    jg28 :: I would jump on the Max if you can swing it, sure is a sweet machine, solid engine. Most likely does not have any alternator problems. I know dealers appear to be giving cars away these day, but its hard to get much better than invoice on most any car.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Back from the lurk bud? You really have to get over your Intrigue some day. You must really get a kick from dumping on people.

    I remember a while back you didn't like the Maxima, said it wasn't that reliable. You've changed you mind??

    How are things with the magical Honda?
  • vcjumpervcjumper Posts: 1,110
    Friend of mine has lots of trouble with his type-S. The red is chipping away partially from the S!

    During the holidays enroute to work, had a nice run and cruise at 100mph on the 401 with a Maxima and E-Class. Wish traffic was that light every rush hour.
  • oldsman01oldsman01 Posts: 1,203
    If your going the Nissan route, skip the "getting outdated" Maxima and go with the new Altima 3.5. I'm still not hot on it's styling, but in 3.5 trim it's a stellar performer. But if I were in your shoes, I'd pay the Intrigue off and start banking what I was paying each month until either I got tired of it or it laid down and died.
  • oldsman01oldsman01 Posts: 1,203
    Had a punk in a mustard yellow Integra try to outrun me merging onto the freeway yesterday. He was behind me on the onramp riding my bumber and when the ramp merged into the freeway, he immediately pulls over in the other lane and tries to get past me. I just mashed the gas and kicked it down a gear and watched the tach sweep past the 3500 rpm mark and then he was in my rearview mirror again. Silly kids never learn.
  • jgriffjgriff Posts: 362
    Believe me I'm over the Intrigue, just like to see how everyone's Trig is holding over the long haul.

    I like the Max, can't really say if it is or is not reliable. However my '93 Infinity G20 was one of my best car experiences ever. And I think Nissan is making great strides in their line-up, however the Altima interior was a huge disappointment.

    And as for my Acura CL, after 19 months and 20k miles, NO complaints, Thank you very much for asking. I take it in for oil-change and maintenance every 6-months, NO problems ( just like it is suppose to be). A couple of years down the line I may get another Acura, as the wife really wants the CL at her disposal full-time.

    It shall be interesting to see how the upcoming '03 Accord stacks up against the rest of the field, especially since the current model is still holds the number one slot on C&D 10-Best.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    You will never be over it. Your posting here dumping on our cars two years after you sold yours is proof enough.

    I'm sure the new Accord will be perfect, just like your car is. All Honda's are perfect. My next sedan will be an Accord for sure. Number one sedan in American and the most stolen to boot!

    Honda rules!!!!!!!!!!!
  • b4zb4z Posts: 3,372
    I don't have a problem with you posting your intrigue experiences on this thread. I do have problem with a post that starts off, "sounds like one big crying game here....".
    Do you really think a post like that will bring a positive response from us?
    Your post #5642 was fine.
    Your post #5637 was childish and pointless.
  • swagledswagled Posts: 195
    Yeah, for all our carping lately, that 3500+ RPM "blast" is still where the Intrigue really shines.

    I truly hate following slow people up the ramps now. When someone just takes his time merging in, sometimes the flow of traffic has backed up behind him. And now *I* don't have room to get in and follow.

    But since the Intrigue is already rolling along at around 45MPH... it's a perfect time to just MASH IT and hop out in front, since the slowpoke has just "made" a lot of space in front of himself.

    Ahhhhh..... the open road!
  • vcjumpervcjumper Posts: 1,110
    Unfortunately my car has only been running a minute or two by the time I reach the highway ramp both from home and work, so I don't get to jump on it at those times as often as I'd like with the motor/oil still cold. Trying to take off ramps at MACH 1 is always fun though.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Well, the temperatures have come back up in the past week and the flicker is completely gone. Clearly, it is a cold weather issue (for my car anyway). I even tried to turn as many power sucking things as I could to get a flicker on Friday night and I go nothing. Wonder why the cold does this to the car even after it's been running for an hour.

    Like I said before, I will have the alternator replaced at some point, but I will wait till the end of the warranty to do it. Car is running well otherwise.

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    General question : What kind of replacement wiper blade are people using and how do you like them? I need to get some as the GM ones that came with the car need replacing.
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