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Oldsmobile Intrigue

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  • oldsman01oldsman01 Posts: 1,203
    I've had my 2001 GLS for nearly 3 months now and already racked up nearly 5500 miles and so far, I really enjoy this car alot. I do have one complaint though and it pertains to the climate control system. Mine has the automatic climate control system and this is a feature I look for on a car and while this one heats and cools well, the control itself could use better programming. Take this morning, it was about 48 degrees out when I left to go to work and the car was wet with dew and light fog. This was all on the exterior of the windshield so the wipers would wipe it off. The system was set at 70 full auto(which I typically leave it at) and with most systems like this, it would have gone into heat(floor) mode and held the blower off until the engine warmed. But this one decided I needed defog which blows some air to the floor and some to the windshield and if above 40, engages the A/C compressor. So, it's 48 degrees and the car is damp and cool and obviously the engine has not had time to warm up and I've got cold A/C air blowing on the windshield and at my feet. Remember, the fog and dew were on the exterior, but the cold air blowing on the windshield from the inside caused it to start fogging up on that side as well. I finally just hit the off button and waited a couple of minutes for the engine to warm up then turned it back on. I know this is rather minor and it can be solved by just manually putting the system in floor mode and selecting econ, but I like the idea of the fully automatic system, I just wish it wouldn't automatically choose the defog mode. Okay, there is my rant. I still like the car alot, just a bit frustrated by that oversight.
  • b4zb4z Posts: 3,372
    Man, I thought i was a glutton for punishment. Everytime i find myself looking at an intrigue to long i think of Darryl and Darryl the moody service writers at my ex-olds dealership.
    Or is that Mutt and Jeff.
    If i were 1way i would start at 14K, and if they didn't take it walk away.
  • ian18ian18 Posts: 133
    While oldsman01 may disagree, I just want to comment that I really like the auto climate control systemin my Intrigue. In my opinion, it seems to work just right with the ability to select the correct mode. I just leave it in "auto" and will only adjust it to either 70 or 72 degrees depending on how I am feeling. I really recommend this system and would be loath to give it up. By the way, I was driving around in a Buick Rendezvous for 4 days which, despite its supposedly $28-30,000 price, did not have the automatic temperature system.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    b4z : I'll still take an Intrigue over an Impala any day.

    jg28 : Did you test a 4 or a 6 cyl model?

    mfd37 : Congrats! I don't think there is any common fit and finish issue. The cars all seem to have unique issues in this regard. A 2002 model should be pretty good. The worst ones are the 98s (as I'm sure you would guess).
  • mfd37mfd37 Posts: 15
    I've seen this at the dealer and I think a better description would be Pea Green Metallic. If it fades with age, you'll have a lima bean colored car. Not for me..... thanks.
  • b4zb4z Posts: 3,372
    Sat in an altima over the weekend. Neat looking car. Had good legroom but the sunroof impinged on headroom. Dash was very low as was the steering wheel. Gauges are set back too far in their bezels. Console is hard plastic. Opened the back door and the handle slipped out of my hand. Made a cheap tin drum sound.
    Car is pretty cool and neat looking but i think it is a little overpriced when heavily optioned.
    Intrigue/impala have a much more open feeling and feel roomier especially in the backseat. Better visibility.
  • tomcat630tomcat630 Posts: 854
    All GM has to do is transfer Intrigue parts to Regals and Gran Prixs. They have the same platform, so what's the problem? Who cares about the divisional grille and tailight differences these days? A Pontiac or Buick will suffice.

    GM mitakenly thought the Intrigue would sell it self, but buyers didn't know where to get one. Also, older buyers wanted a "new Cutlass or 98" and walked out when they couldn't get one. If it had a Saturn name on it, we wouldnt be playing "Taps" for it
  • fjk57702fjk57702 Posts: 539
    I recall seeing a lot of Intrigue advertising. I don't think the problem is due to a lack of advertising. Renaming the line may have been an error. Perhaps the wrong targets got the advertizing (I have an Aurora).
  • oldsman01oldsman01 Posts: 1,203
    I do like the automatic climate control overall and it worked perfectly in summer and this IS a feature I look for in a car, I just wish it would not choose the "defog" mode automatically. I like to leave it in the full auto mode, but when I select econ, I want the A/C compressor to stay off, but if the system thinks it needs defog and puts it in that mode, the compressor turns on. It's supposed to be in the upper 30s tomorrow morning so I'll see how it does then. My only other complaint with the system is that I wish it had a button on the display to choose between set and outside temp. Several years ago I had an 89 Olds which had auto climate control and it worked perfectly and let you choose between set and outside temp display.
  • oldsman01oldsman01 Posts: 1,203
    I remember some(not alot) of ads for the Intrigue back in 98 and through most of 99. They seemed to really plug the car alot during the summer of 98 when Olds did the promo with th X-files movie. However, within the past year or so, I don't think I've seen an ad for the Intrigue at all. In fact, Oldsmobile advertising was pretty much nil until the decision last December to phase the brand out. Then we started seeing the "whole line" ads. I have seen some 2002 Bravada ads recently. I think Olds should have marketed this car and the rest of their cars better in recent years.
  • jg28jg28 Posts: 257
    30 pieces???? Geez! Where would you put all that? All I would want is a center console piece and some that went up and enhanced the radio/hvac control center. Maybe a couple pieces on the doors and that's about it. The burlwood is nice but I'd really like something lighter... in maple. Where's a good place to get something in the five pieces? How difficult is it to install? Did you do it yourself or have a professional do it? I don't blame ya about the pictures not getting posted. I've been meaning to post my pics of the relocated rocket insignia and haven't done it yet (no digital cam).

    Dindak, it was a v6 that I test drove. The tranny was smoother or the engine; nice 17inch wheels too. Very very nice power. I thought the interior was nice even though everyone says it's hard plastic. It's certainly not the cheap plastic that's on the underside of our Intrigues.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    jg28 : Sounds good. I'll have to pop by the local Nissan dealer and check one out one day.

    oldsman01 : I agree. Zero advertising since the x-files campaign. Oldsmobile really needed to hammer home performance if they wanted to change their image. Imagine an Intrigue in place of the 02 Altima in those new ads. Now THAT WOULD HAVE SOLD INTRIGUES!!!
  • focusfocus Posts: 225
    To all of you who helped me along in buying a new intrigue, much appreciated. Picked up my new intrigue yesterday. Paid $25215 cdn less my trade in and my gm points, net difference $12000 tax in.
    Purchased with cash from Wilson in Richmond hill.
  • fjk57702fjk57702 Posts: 539
    I think that Olds missed its target in what advertising it did, but that isn't the whole problem. One basic problem is that the Olds line was aimed at the "European sedan" market. But lets face facts, FWD is not going to get this market segment in any big way. With the Aurora, I think pricing is a big problem. But the V8 probably costs about $3000 more to build than the 3800 does. Now that the Olds line is terminating, I'm not sure that they should "waste" a lot of money on advertising. They do need to do some advertising, but the Olds marketing division is winding down.
  • focusfocus Posts: 225
    DISGUSTING - in one word. I told them three times not to buff up the car as it will leave swirl mark on it. They ignored this simple request and when i picked it up, i can see fine scratch mark all over my dark blue car! I guess GM's motto is give us full price (saturn) for excellent service, or else...
    Spent 3.5 hours at dealership on closing date, they worked you all over from a $1000 difference to $200, they made you wait and wait and intended to wear you down. To get the best deal, you must prepared to walk away.
    With all these dealerships, i found a severe lack of product knowledge, response time is from none to 2 weeks. Most would like to charge me the same profit margin as in other time of the year.
    I don't know the difference between pcs and non-pcs, as i never own one before.
    Now I have to look for some really good polish and wax to fix this scratch problem.....
  • one2oneone2one Posts: 626
    Check these sites out. Make sure to look at the pattern. 30 pieces sounds like a lot but it really isn't. Some pieces look like one. For example, surrounding the center air vent I have a piece but there's also one that covers the center of the vent... it's confusing. Look at the first link to get a picture of what I'm saying.


    Yep, did it all by myself. I used a blowdryer. In fact, the only things you'll really need are a blowdryer and regular rubbing alcohol. The instuctions basically say to position the piece BEFORE removing backing (belive me, you don't want to try pulling it off), clean area w/alcohol, wipe provided expoxy onto area, heat the wood so it's flexible, remove the backing and place in desired spot. I added a little more to that. I also heated the dash where I was going to place the wood. That way when the wood cooled, the dash and wood would constrict at a similar rate. It's best to do this when the weather is warm (hot really).


    Joshua Wood Trim

    Exotic Wood Dash

    Custom Auto Trim

    Wood Dash Factory

  • one2oneone2one Posts: 626
    Do not fret, my friend. If you are going to use Zaino products, they're be gone anyway. You can also use Meguiars "Scratch X". It's supposed to remove swirl marks. I say "supposed" because I use another one of their polishes (I assume a cheaper version) in the red bottle. It's part of a 3 step process and the 2nd step is the polish. It works GREAT for me... and like I said, that's one of their cheaper polishes. I do finish it up with their "Gold Class" wax.

    Because of the weather, I haven't hand washed it in over a month. I've sent it thru the car wash 2x during that period. I can begin seeing swirls if I get really close. But even in direct sunlight, if you don't know they're there, you won't. And the shine and finish even when dirty are incredible! We saw another Intrigue next to us on the road, same color (Midnight Blue), and it was obvious they didn't "care for" the paint. Was clean and shined, but not like mine. And mine was dirty!

    Anyway, PepBoys carries their line of products. Get the polish in the red bottle and you'll be amazed at how easily and quickly the swirls will come out.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Sounds like a good price. Cash deal must have given you some manufacturer discount also.

    When I bought mine, I went to carcostcanada.com and got the invoice for $45. I called the dealer and gave her the price I would pay (which was $900 over CDN invoice less the $45 I spent to get the invoice). 10 minutes later I got the ok and the deal was done. I don't have the patience to sit in a dealer for that long negotiating. Signed all the papers I instructed her to have ready when I got there and I was on my way in half an hour.

    I remember the first dealer I went to was that old style "where do you want to start negotiating" type place. The 60 year old salesman was irritating me from the time I walked in. I walked out after 5 minutes of that crap.

    Are the swirl marks bad or very faint?
  • teoteo Posts: 2,508
    The Impala is the best selling large sedan in the GM lineup right now. It is ranked in 8th place (150,599 units sold as of 9/2001). The Olds Intrigue has ranked in 43rd place and is sales has slipped almost 3K units when compared to the same period last year. It seems that not even the 0% financing and the 5/60 warranty can't save the Intrigue:


    http://www.autosite.com/editoria/asmr/svolfc.asp

  • tomcat630tomcat630 Posts: 854
    The X-Files tie in was good, but it was one of many ads where the name "Oldsmobile" was virtually invisible. They expected buyers to know where to go to buy one.

    Well, most buyers don't live in Michigan and know what cars Olds sells of the top of their heads. Also, they were too chicken to dump the Olds name and merge the new cars into Saturn.
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