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Mercedes-Benz C-Class Sedans

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  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,367
    ...is to leave it up to the dealer, and you can see for yourself what that means. Here in Sacramento, loaners are for all service customers - the service dept is its own profit center, as it is at most dealerships, and they don't need to drive business to the independents by discriminating. In LV, the dealer obviously thinks there is insufficient local service competition to worry about. In most large urban markets, the opposite is the case.
  • ahostahost Posts: 36
    Are you sure about that? I thought MBUSA paid the dealers to provide loaners, and that it is therefore a MBUSA policy to provide loaners. However, what cars they provide is up to the dealer. Here, in Honolulu, there is also just one dealer, and they never give Mercedes as loaners.
  • hinkdoghinkdog Posts: 10
    Is there a hp increase that is scheduled for the C230 and the C320 and if so when are they going to be implemented, thanks in advance for any info or source where I can locate it.
  • rbrooks3rbrooks3 Posts: 174
    I have spent a few months looking for a nice early 90s 300E but each of them I ahve found have had the usual head gasket problems. I was looking at the 300E because the engines will live a very long time if properly maintained. But, the price I was willing to pay also puts me into a 95 C280. Unfortunately, I know nothing about them. So, if there is a site for basic pre-purchase info or specific concerns please let me know. i found 2 posts in this forum for pre-purchase info but neither was ever repsonded to.

    Thanks,

    Ron B.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,367
    Go to the pre-2001 MB C-Class forum - check it out in the index - and post your question there.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,367
    I don't know the financial arrangements between the dealers and MBUSA concerning the service loaner program; I DO know that policies vary way too widely from one dealer to another for there to be any uniform, do-it-this-way-or-else approach. And I don't think it is mandatory for a dealer to participate at all, for that matter.
    In Sacto, there is a wide selection of current year MBs in the loaner fleet, which are then turned around and resold as Starmark cars at the end of the model year. How much MB subsidizes this, I have no idea, but my guess is that the dealer makes out like a bandit, as usual...
  • rbrooks3rbrooks3 Posts: 174
    I have spent a few months looking for a nice early 90s 300E but each of them I ahve found have had the usual head gasket problems. I was looking at the 300E because the engines will live a very long time if properly maintained. But, the price I was willing to pay also puts me into a 95 C280. Unfortunately, I know nothing about them. So, if there is a site for basic pre-purchase info or specific concerns please let me know. i found 2 posts in this forum for pre-purchase info but neither was ever repsonded to.

    Thanks,

    Ron B.
  • tomotomotomotomo Posts: 57
    Ron,
    I purchased a 95 C280 new in late 1994 and drove it for approximately 45000 miles. I only recall two problems: the first was new front brake pads & rotors (replaced under warranty) at about 25000 miles. The other was a fuel pump that failed at about 40000 miles. I really loved driving the car. In late 1999 I traded it for a 2001 E320 and currently have about 22000 almost trouble free miles. A couple of weeks my dealer replaced the driver's seat frame (known E320 problem) as well as front brake pads. In late 2001 my wife purchased a 2002 C320 and currently has only about 3000 trouble free miles. Good luck with your search.
  • fedssocrfedssocr Posts: 90
    Last week I had my wallet and keys stolen. As a result the key to my car and the emergency key needed replacement. Then I went to the dealer the next day to order a couple of new keys and got robbed again. Anyone care to guess how much a key for your C class costs? Try $128 for a regular key and $154 for the emergency key! Needless to say I was pretty shocked. How can they charge that much money for an item that probably costs less than $10 to make? It's stuff like this that makes me think I will not buy another MB when the time comes. They also told me it had to be flown in from Germany and each key is specially made to be linked to your car's VIN. This doesn't seem to be a very smart way to do this. Why don't they have "blank" keys that they can just program at the dealer with the right codes for your car?
  • khenderkhender Posts: 3
    How much is a regular oil change at the MB dealership? I'm looking into buying a 2001 C240, and was wondering what maintenance issues and cost especially I may run into. Typical maintenance such as an oil change, and scheduled mileage marks.

    Any ideas on cost would be appreciated.

    Thanks,

    K
  • newmbfannewmbfan Posts: 59
    While I agree that the cost of replacing the keys is ridiculous, (It won't be long and you will be able to buy all the computer chips in a MB for $128.00) I really do not have a problem with having the keys made in Germany.

    This makes it extremely difficult for thieves to steal your car by showing up at the dealership with the VIN (that was copied through the windshield) and picking up a "replacement" key.

    Now the thief would have to conspire with the parts guy to get a key.
  • vchengvcheng Posts: 1,286
    For key replacements, try:

    www.keylessride.com
  • rs64rs64 Posts: 64
    The maintenance is covered by the dealer for 4 years/50,000 miles in the US, so the oil changes are free at the scheduled intervals.
  • Hi, I have been monitoring this forum for more than a year now and it has been very informative and useful. i bought a white 2001 c320 and so far so good no major mechanical problems except for the sun shade with had to be replaced under warranty. My problem has been the dealer. It is Carlton Motorcars in Greenville SC. They service the car well except for one major problem. They are the only Mercedes dealership within 75 miles and they don't provide any loaners except when the car is "inoperable" I find this a major disappointment. Can anyone give advise since for routine maintainance I have to find someone to pick me up or have to take a day off from work or pay for a rental. Then they have the nerve to ask me for an excellent review of their service
  • 96benz96benz Posts: 6
    I own a 96 C280 bought new--still get loaner cars from MB of Devon-Pa( formally Carson-Pettit)-and my car is 7 yrs old! Not an MB-an Enterprise Rental car--had a Jeep Grand Cherokee--a Nissan Maxima,etc. They also offer pick-up( leave you with a car) and delivery of your car. Can't ask for than this eh?
  • khenderkhender Posts: 3
    Are dealers starting to offer year end incentives on the 2002 C's? What kinds of prices can we expect for 2002 C240s? What are people paying this time of year?

    Also, when do the 2003's arrive on the dealer lots?

    Thanks,

    K
  • 96benz96benz Posts: 6
    Here are the latest costs from MB of Devon-Pa:
    7500---$63.95
    15000-$223.95
    30000-$399.95
    60000-$415.95
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,367
    I have a lot of the same questions; as a clue to some of the answers, I use CarsDirect as a proxy for more solid info. Right now, if I plug my Northern Calif [Sacto] zip code, or a Bay Area zip, into their system, they are offering $3700-$4000 off C240s and C320 sedans, and the wagon goes even steeper - $5000 off. Coupes are around $2500 off or more.

    Since these prices take the car well below nominal invoice, and even below cost [counting holdback] in some cases, I have to presume that at least one dealer in the Bay Area is spending dealer incentive money to move 'em out. Ironically, in a brief reversal of the usual deal, a SoCal zip code yields prices that are higher by $1000 or more, so it is one dealer somewhere in the SF area who is settling for just moving them, without making much profit.

    The '03s are already starting to trickle in, and have been at the VPCs for weeks. Look for a good deal between now and the end of the month on an '02 - if you are seriously interested, and have a dealer nearby with a good inventory, then it's time to press him about trunk money on the Cs. Something is clearly happening, though MB is managing to keep it low profile enough that the exact amount remains a secret - I'm guessing an average of $1000, depending on model.
  • nhtoccnhtocc Posts: 6
    I am new to this portion of the site and absolutely love it. I bought a C320 in April. Basically happy with the car, but some of the little idiosyncrasies bug me. I don't think the seat memory is really true. Never really seem to end up in the same spot. Forever re-adjusting. And the floating mirrors...I thought I was losing my mind until I read it on this site. Then there's the A/C. What is up with that smell coming from the vents first thing in the morning after the car has sat all night. It smells like wet dog and I don't have pets. I also don't find the A/C very powerful. It doesn't get THAT hot here on the Cape and I just can't get cool. I feel sorry for anyone that lives in a really hot spot. Any suggestions anyone?
  • tomotomotomotomo Posts: 57
    Andrea, My wife has an 02 C320 and we seemed to have memory problems until I took time and studied the manual, following the directions on all of the relevant settings using one key and then the other. I marked the keys so that my wife and I would not get them mixed up. Since then (approximately 11 months) the settings have not deviated. I think in our case the problem was we (mostly me) didn't fully understand how to make the proper settings. My 01 E320 is not as complicated; however, it only has memory for the front seats and does not know the difference in the keys. I hope you get to the bottom of your problem.
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