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Mercedes-Benz C-Class Sedans

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,411
    Got a great review here on edmunds. Nice car!

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Just so you all know the C-Class will recieve all new engines for 2006, save the C55 AMG.

    The C230 will have a V6 with 200hp, the C240 will become the C280 with a 227hp V6 and the C320 as you know will become the C350 with 268hp. All will go on sale sometime this summer. Naturally the dealers play dumb about this because they want to clear out existing stock.

    http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cfm/newsid/2050223.006

    "Engine initiative: new six-cylinder units in the C-Class, E-Class and SLK-Class
    From spring 2005 the newly developed, powerful six-cylinder engines will also be available for the C-Class, E-Class and SLK-Class. These new power units better their predecessors by up to 32 percent in output and up to 27 percent in torque. With four completely new V6 engines, the C-Class takes a clear lead in its market segment where output and torque are concerned. Of the new engines, three are V6 petrol units with 150 kW/204 hp (C 230), 170 kW/231 hp (C 280) and 200 kW/272 hp (C 350). The C 320 CDI with the state-of-the-art V6 diesel engine (165 kW/224 hp) also joins the line-up.

    In addition to the new E 350 (200 kW/272 hp) Mercedes-Benz is offering the new model E 280 in the E-Class from spring 2005. This is powered by a 170 kW/231 hp six-cylinder engine developing a torque of 300 Newton metres. The new V6 thus betters the previous E 240 by more than 30% in output and 25% in torque.

    With the new models E 280 CDI (140 kW/190 hp) and E 320 CDI (165 kW/224 hp), the diesel range in the E-Class is set to be even more attractive and dynamic.

    The new SLK 280 will be launched in the SLK-Class in spring 2005. Equipped with the 170 kW/231 hp V6 engine, this two-seater accelerates from standstill to 100 km/h in just 6.3 seconds. The combined fuel consumption of the SLK 280 is 9.7 litres per 100 kilometres.


    M
  • postoakpostoak Posts: 537
    jcat707 - do you have any regrets about having to take the pewter? I like my silver -- it's just common as dirt!

    C350 - yes, nice car/engine but will there be that many sales? The C320 is already overpriced.
    After putting a mere 100 miles on my C240, I can tell you I have NO regrets about getting it instead of the C320.
  • jcat707jcat707 Posts: 168
    I don't have any regrets about taking the pewter. I admit that at first I didn't really care for it but I have grown to love it. It looks nice and isn't as common as silver.
  • decaf4medecaf4me Posts: 3
    I owned my 2001 C320 until this month and quickly turned it in. Great mechanical car, not so great with all the electric and electronics. my advice: as soon as the mfr. warranty is done, trade it in.
    I had so many electronic glitches, all fixed courtesy of MB; nonetheless, when i asked if the issues were common, they would say no. But then i found that MB was sending special parts to correct issues with the headlights burning out frequently and other electric stuff. The one that sent me over the edge was the power seat modules drawing the battery down, costing me 2 batteries ($300) and then the modules ($900+). MBUSA was kind enough to reimburse half after I complained to their VP of QA in Montvale NJ ( highly reccomended approach).
    No longer a german car fan ( for now)
  • paul_ppaul_p Posts: 271
    Hello All,

    I'm back after not reading or posting much for about 18 months. Sorry for my absence, but I took a part-time job teaching college courses online, which took lots of time.

    My Y2K C230 is running well at only 18,000 miles: I love the car, no major problems so far. Stored for winters to keep the salt off of it. My best defense against rust on the C230 is using a '93 Toyota pickup now with 208,000 miles as a daily driver in the winter.

    I have 3+ years left on the extended warranty, so will probably keep the MB until at least early 2008.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    ...and that reminds me I haven't reported lately, either.

    Our very basic '02 C240 Automatic [with just the C2 pkg - as "stripped" as I could get it] went into service in Sept of '02, after being produced in the Bremen plant in January [it was delivered to the dealer in March, and just got moved around from one lot to another for 5 months].

    We currently have 15,000 miles, and no new problems to report. The only issues surfaced in the first couple of months, and were quickly resolved - wheel alignment, which was noticeable on the acceptance drive and fixed within the first week, and a minor differential leak that was traced to a plugged vent tube and corrected on the first try. So far, knock on wood, this is all we have to report.

    I am in love with the way the car behaves on the road, especially on extended trips, which occur infrequently with us. Our last real road trip was on October, and the car was just wonderful - plenty of passing power, smooth, quiet, 27-29 mpg at ridiculous speeds in the desert, great all-day seats. We have another long trip coming up next month....otherwise, the car gets used on the average of once a week for 20 miles or so. We can walk to just about everything from our condo in Vancouver WA, so we are now averaging only 5k-6k miles a year, even with long trips factored in..

    Our warranty runs to Sept of '09, and at the moment, I can think of no reason why we might make a change before then. I would like a diesel, so we periodically flirt with the idea of a VW Passat or the new Jetta, but the real world cost of making a change, and the likelihood that nothing we could buy would equal the C's comfort on long trips, has dissuaded me. I was very interested in the MB B-Class, but their decision to pull the car from our market quashed that idea. We'd like a little more trunk space and a little more rear legroom, in a package not significantly larger than the C, which of course is what the B is all about - anyway, we are happy with the car [our 14th MB], and plan to keep it at least as long as the warranty runs - with our low annual usage, the car will probably has less than 40k miles on it when the extended warranty expires.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    I've read your post for years about Mercedes, always very informative.

    I wanted to ask you what you think about upcoming C280, C350 and the V6 replacement for the C230? I think the C280 will have about 227hp if the standard minus 4 applies like it does on the C350 (272hp/268hp here).

    Finally if you were to buy another Mercedes besides a C or B (if they decide to bring it here someday) which one would it be?

    M
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    Well, they're playing games again with the model designations as the new engines appear in the C; the actual displacements are 2.5, 3.0, and 3.5 [I think], all V6s with the new 4-valve heads. Even the entry-level car [which apparently, they are indeed going to call the C230, inexplicably] will have over 200hp, and with the new 7-spd automatic, it's all more - more power, better fuel consumption, cleaner exhaust; wish I could justify the cost.

    The E diesel is the only thing in the line that would appeal to me besides what we already have, and that's $50k and up - and we are all done with $50k cars. I just wish we could have the full line of models, and equally, the full line of engines, in the NA market - a B with the turbo-diesel is what I really want, but....
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,411
    The new C350 Sport Looks like it is going to be a great car, lots of fun to drive. I'm a manual transmission junkie, so I can't wait to get my hands on one. Has anybody driven one yet or when will they be out?

    At the NY Auto show, MB had an entry level SLK280 that was powered by I believe (not sure of the displacement here) a 3.0 Liter 24 valve V6 that produced somewhere in the neighborhood of 225hp. Will this be the new "base" engine in the C-Class for the US? Do you think MB will offer a C"280" Sport version?

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    jrct9454,

    Thanks for the reply. You might get a chance to get a B-Class diesel if the dollar/Euro situation swings back the opposite way. When the U.S. diesel fuel is cleaned up I'm sure Mercedes, BMW and Audi will all import some of their best diesels. They will be a nice alternative to hybrids, imo.

    nyccarguy,

    Nope, there won't be a C280 Sport. The C280 will offered as a wagon and sedan in luxury guise just like the current C240. Yes there will be a SLK280 with 227hp. Here is an piece of the article from GCF about Mercedes debuting these new models at Geneva this past March.

    http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cfm/newsid/2050223.006/mercedes/1.html

    ". With four completely new V6 engines, the C-Class takes a clear lead in its market segment where output and torque are concerned. Of the new engines, three are V6 petrol units with 150 kW/204 hp (C 230), 170 kW/231 hp (C 280) and 200 kW/272 hp (C 350). The C 320 CDI with the state-of-the-art V6 diesel engine (165 kW/224 hp) also joins the line-up."

    Just subtract 4hp for the U.S. versions.

    M
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,411
    I really think the C-Class has aged well and still looks fresh, especially the Sport Models. The 2.8 should have more than enough power (especially given our cop infested, overcrowded roadways here in the NYC area). I'd definitely check one out for my wife sometime next year. Sport Suspension, bigger wheels, and all the other Sport Model goodies are a must though. We're thinking of getting a BMW 325i via ED, but at over $40K for a C350 Sport...

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • jon767jon767 Posts: 2
    I have owned a Mercedes ML320 and E320 and currently own an E500 4matic, I must say that my 2005 C240 4matic is THE BEST MERCEDES OF THOSE THREE. WHY because it is able to blend all of the positive of the other three into a cheap, sporty, economic package. It is also really good in the snow and has better cornering traction then the M class even in the snow. my only regret is not buying the C320 because after driving the e500 and then driving my 240 it feels really lagged and slow, but once on the highway its fine.
  • interwebinterweb Posts: 4
    I've had numerous exterior bulbs have been burning out and the Air Conditioning has leaked four times (but dealership has been great in fixing them and given us great service).... Well just tonight the worse problem of all, does anyone know about this!?? The Car engine won't start!! The battery is fully charged and its not the alarm or the smartkey.. I also tried to jump the car to give it extra joice and it doesn't make a difference the battery still seems fine, the lights are all strong and radio is fine. What happens is when i turn the key to start the engine, there is a slight click noise and the lights go out for a brief split second. I never even hear the engine even trying to start...

    Any ideas???
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    Sure - the click noise is the key - probably means the starter relay is shot, or the starter itself. Don't know if the starter relay if fused, but I would check the owner's manual to be sure. If not, it's call the flat bed - unless you have the kind of skills to deal with this.
  • kronogoosekronogoose Posts: 116
    Can anyone enlighten me on changes for next year?

    Thanks,

    Greg
  • jcat707jcat707 Posts: 168
    I read on another one of the boards (I think it was under future vehicles), that the there will be engine changes. The C230 is supposed to get a 2.5 liter V6, the C240 is supposed to become the C280 with a 2.8 liter V6 , and the C320 will become the C350 with the same 3.5 liter used in the E, M, and SLK-Class. Also, there will be no Sport or Luxury designation as ther was for the 2005 models. Instead there will just be sport packages. These are the major changes that I can remember. I think all the stuff is minor like changing options around. There are also some color changes.
  • jrct9454jrct9454 Posts: 2,363
    That's correct. Also, all three models get the new 7-speed automatic, either as optional or standard. In any case, there is no more C230"K" in the sense that the 1.8 4 cyl with the supercharger ["Kompressor"] will be history in our market.

    "C230" = 2.5 V6, approx 200 hp
    "C280" = 3.0 V6, approx 225hp
    "C350" = 3.5 V6, approx 265hp

    All hp estimates give or take a couple depending on emissions control decisions and exhaust tuning. HP up, emissions down, fuel consumption down, prices steady, win-win....
  • haaseshaases Posts: 1
    I wondered if someone has an opinion on a 2001 C320. A local dealer is offering it for $25K (in PA). It only has 10,000 miles but I'm concerned about some of the repair (esp electrical) costs that I've been reading about. The car is being offered by a Ford dealer who will give a 2 year warranty on the drivetrain. Obviously the car looks sweet in the pictures. I'm afraid if I drive it, I'll make a rash decision. Am I looking for trouble with this model year??? :confuse:
  • kronogoosekronogoose Posts: 116
    Thanks for the information. Are the prices (especially on the C230) expected to stay about the same? And, on a different note, am I correct in thinking that I can't order a manual transmission with the 4matic (AWD) option?
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