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Ford Focus Sedan

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  • tomcat630tomcat630 Posts: 854
    ZX3 is considered a hatchback 2 door on the market. Regarding insurance costs, ask around.
  • I had my Focus stall in rush hour freeway traffic for no apparent reason so I was happy to get this letter concerning the fuel pump assembly, until the service department told me I have to pay the diaognostic fee of $83.00 to see if I have the "Program 03N01" defect.If they deterimine that you do indeed have this defect they will pay for everything including the diagnostic, but if you don't you pay for the test.
    As was explained to me by several customer service people this is NOT a recall but an extended warranty.
     Ford has admitted there is a problem, but to avoid paying for the diagnostic to see if you have the defect they don't call it a recall but an extended warranty. Sounds like a bunch of crap to me.

    Below is a copy of the Ford letter talking about the defective fuel pump assembly.

    http://www.autosafety.org/article.php?did=847&scid=37

    Focus Extended Coverage Program 03N01
    All U.S. Ford and Lincoln Mercury Dealers
     

    SUBJECT:
     Extended Coverage Program 03N01 - Certain 2000 and 2001 Model Year Focus Vehicles Fuel Delivery Module
     

    PROGRAM TERMS

    This program extends the coverage of the fuel delivery module (FDM) to 10 years from the original warranty start date of the vehicle, with no limit on the number of miles that the vehicle has been driven. This program provides replacement coverage, and is automatically transferred to subsequent owners.

    VEHICLES COVERED BY THIS PROGRAM

    Certain 2000 and 2001 model year Focus vehicles built at the Wayne and Hermosillo Assembly Plants from Job #1,1999 through June 13, 2001. Affected vehicles are identified in OASIS.

    REASON FOR PROVIDING ADDITIONAL COVERAGE

    Some of the affected vehicles may experience engine hesitation, loss of power, surging, and other similar symptoms as a result of contamination of the fuel pump filters. Because the contamination of the filters is progressive, they may ultimately become sufficiently blocked to cause the engine to stall completely. Although the symptoms noted above can occur under a variety of driving conditions, they are most likely to occur when there is less than one-quarter tank of fuel and/or when the driver is attempting to accelerate while making a right turn maneuver (such as entering a highway through a cloverleaf) or while driving uphill.

    SERVICE ACTION

    If the customer's vehicle exhibits the symptoms described above, dealers should replace the fuel pump unless there is clear evidence that the symptoms are solely caused by some other component. To assist in determining the cause of the symptoms, you should interview the customer. In addition, diagnosis time is provided to road test the vehicle. See Attachment IV for customer interview flow chart.

    If it is determined that the symptoms are caused by some other component and the FDM is operating properly, the customer should be notified that the repair is not covered under this program. This program does not cover parts or procedures other than replacement of the fuel delivery module. The fuel delivery module replacement will be performed at no charge to the customer.

    AN OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD CUSTOMER LOYALTY

    With increased service capacity, use the resulting service traffic to acquire new retail service customers, or become re-acquainted with current ones. Take this opportunity to make a lifetime customer by demonstrating:

    Care by using the Quality Care Report Card every time to identify additional service needs that may require attention.

    Convenience by offering convenient payment terms, by scheduling service appointments, and by providing convenient hours and days of operation.

    Competitive Pricing by promoting national, regional, and your individual dealer service specials.
    ATTACHMENTS

    Attachment I: Administrative Information
    Attachment II: Labor Allowances and Parts Ordering Information
    Attachment III: Technical Information
    Attachment IV: Customer Interview Flow Chart
    Customer Notification Letter

    QUESTIONS?

    Claims Information:.....................................................- - ............................1-800-423-8851
    Special Service Support Center (Dealer only) Questions:............................1-800-325-5621
  • fdannafdanna Posts: 263
    That term really irks me. I mean, if you drive on small roads less than 5 miles away from home in a temperate climate, maybe there isn't an unreasonable risk. However, if you have a 35 miles highway commute in temperatures that drop down to -10 on highways that lack breakdown lanes in some parts, then I'd say it's an unreasonable risk. I found myself in the latter situation. I'm hoping to get the pump replaced as soon as the new design is available.

    Diagnostic fees in my area are $75. The nice thing is that according to the wording, it's really up to them to prove that there isn't something else causing the problem. It reads that if they can't find another possible cause, they need to replace it.
  • Here is a link to the message I posted before. I deleted the message because it contained copyrighted material that is against policy to post here. My mistake.
    You can read the article through the below URL
    http://www.ofoc.ca/news/news_2003_11.html
  • 151ranch151ranch Posts: 109
    I am looking to test drive a manual tranny focus, but my dealer tells me there are only 2 (!) in the entire state of Texas on the dealers' lots to look at....I refuse to buy a manual with out test driving it, and am not really interested in the SVT.

    Does anyone have the 2.3L manual? I am interested in knowing a little more before driving 100 miles to test drive.
  • Personally, I don't think Ford is building more than a trickle of cars with 5 speeds. I'm in Houston, and there is not a single ZX3 with the 2.3 and manual transmission on a dealer's lot - what's up with that? I'd seriously consider getting one, but there are none to be had. Around here, it isn't worth going to a Ford store unless you are shopping for a truck :(
  • fdannafdanna Posts: 263
    I think here in the north east 5-speeds are a tiny bit more popular, depending on the model. The ZX3, for example, is not so hard to find here with a 5-speed. However, if you're looking for, say, a Carolla 5-speed, forget it.

    Overall, manual transmission make up less than 9% of all cars sold in the U.S.

    I would think that in a place like Texas with such enormous distance between cities that a 5 speed might be more popular (less shifting).

    Maybe we have more europeans up here who prefer 5-speeds. In Europe it's more like less than 9% automatics. You should see the look on american's faces when they get to their rental cars... they're ALL manual unless you specifical request automatic. Even then, it's a crapshoot.

    Good luck!
  • I have a 5 speed Focus wagon and at the time I bought it the dealer said they didn't exist. I even showed them a print out from Edmunds that showed that option on a wagon and the salesman still refused to believe me.I had to insist that he search the Ford dealer data base for other dealers' inventories and after a few failed attempts they found one at a dealer in Vermont(I'm in NY state)
  • fdannafdanna Posts: 263
    I'm gonna eat my words and say I spoke to soon. I just did search on forddirect.com and there are NO 5-speeds around. Geez, that sucks.
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,209
    http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/?news/ae_news_story.php?id=43389

    Since we're not even getting the new Focus chassis here I wouldn't expect to see anything like this anytime soon. Oh well.
  • tomcat630tomcat630 Posts: 854
    Europe is now more than 10% automatics nowadays. Autoweek mentioned once its more like 25-30%.

    Anyway, dealers don't want to stock a 5 speed car, that will sit and sit and sit. Most "enthusiasts" who want one are picky and would probably not like the color, options, etc, anyway, so they'd end up ordering another.

    For every one "I demand a manual", there are 10-20 buyers of in stock auto cars.
  • buggywhipbuggywhip Posts: 188
    Sticks are dead. People are too busy with cell phones and CD players. No one wants to shift anymore. Personally, I can't wait to get a stick again.
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    I want one too. The 2.3 Focus is of interest to me, but I doubt I will find one. How can I search lots for one?
  • iusecadiusecad Posts: 287
    I don't know why, but Ford offers 2 web sites:

    http://www.forddirect.com

    and my favorite:

    http://www.dealerconnection.com

    and a dealer 30 miles from me has a ZX5 and a ZTS in the 2.3-manual variety... :) fortunately I prefer autos...
  • My 2001 Ford Focus ZTS with 58,000 miles has the engine ligh on with
    the P0171 LEAN 1 code.
    I have already replaced the Oxygen Sensor, EGR Valve, PDF Sensor, but
    the engine light still stays on. A mechanic also checked the
    vaccum,an it's OK.
    What else can it be????
    Any suggestions?
  • Just want to say that my 2001 Focus SE with the SOHC engine with 20k miles is doing fine. I did take her in for the recall about the rear wheel bearings and I did get the letter about a possible problem with the fuel pump. But I have yet to experience any problem with it. I did baby the car during the first couple of hundred miles. And I like using 5w-30, not 5w-20 oil. On the highway I get 34 mpg, averaging 60-65 mph., and I love the way the car handles.
  • hotx3hotx3 Posts: 71
    Have you talked to your dealer? I had problems about a year after I bought mine and they replaced the head (paid by Ford).
        Currently mine is at the dealer for frequently stalling as I would slow for a stop (It's a manual, and it would die when I disengaged the clutch. I noticed a funny sulfury smell the last time it happened.) They told me I need a new head gasket for $1600 (?, seems steep, I haven't seen the written estimate yet). This is a 4 year old car with less than 50K miles, conservatively driven. I really like it, but reliable it aint. Anybody have any thoughts about this diagnosis and estimate?
    Thanks.
  • fdannafdanna Posts: 263
    If you had a leaky head gasket, you'd have more of a sweet smell and you'd see your coolant level dropping. Even if it is the head gasket, $1600 is insane and you should try another dealer or a local mechanic for a second opinion.

    Is your car part of the fuel pump recall (all cars made between 2000 and 2001)? You could check that
  • hotx3hotx3 Posts: 71
        You are right - no coolant loss or smell. I talked to the service writer today. He tells me the exhaust valves are unbalanced because of carbon deposits, and I need a new head assembly, to the tune of $2100! They got input from Ford, and supposedly ran tests to confirm the problem. I wonder why they can't clean the valves off.

        Also, I thought this was the same engine used in the Escorts, with good results. When the head was replaced in 2001, it took them several weeks to get one. I wonder if they didn't "improve" it somehow...

        Anyway, this is tough to swallow, especially since this is the second time in less than four years and I'm only working part time right now. I plan to spend some time with the service rep tomorrow to get some of these questions answered.

        BTW, it is covered by the pump recall, but the symptoms don't match very well.

        Thanks for your input. - Don
  • fdannafdanna Posts: 263
    Hey it really sounds like they're trying to screw you big time.

    Considering you're out of warranty, you should see if you can talk to an independent garage or another dealer.

    How can such a major item fail twice? Clearly had they done the job right the first time you wouldn't be in this position. See if you have legal recourse.
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