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Ford Focus Sedan



  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    that slot is only for what you have found. the permanent clock display is only on the bottom left.
  • after purchasing a zts in 5/04 it has been back to the dealer 4 times in 2 months,once for a recall on the heated seats & 3 times with a fuel gauge problem the 1st issue occured after filling, the gauge stayed on empty the dealer said ford told them to clear the computer & re-enter a code, that didn't solve the problem because after filling the tank again the gauge read at 1/2 tank the sending unit was then replaced, once again the gauge is not corrected now it stays at full tank after 150 miles then slowly moves between full & 3/4 after 200 miles, when filling again it took 8 gal.which should be 1/2 tank this time the dealer stated the float on the new sending unit was not set correctly & was reading 1/4 more then it should have
    once I receive it back from the dealer I may trade it, but it maybe my last ford
  • NUTZ! Clearly, your service department suks! However, I wouldn't trade yet. If the rest of the car is satisfactory or better, why get rid of an otherwise good car. You may need to write some letters to the dealer principal, general manager, service manager, and contact Ford's customer service feedback people. Nowadays, no one wants a dissatisfied customer. The fuel gauge is a relatively simple/minor element of the whole car. This could be caused by something as simple as version coding. The recall proves that Ford is serious about getting the seat heaters right. You should be firm but not uncivilized when dealing with these people and they will surely get things back the way they should be. We love our Focus and consider it an excellent choice/decision for our needs.
  • fdthirdfdthird Posts: 352
    Are you in an area where its possible to take the car to another dealer? So many times its the lack of desire on the part of the dealer's service personnel that makes the problem a lot bigger than it is. I have to agree though, if you like the rest of the car this is a relatively small item use use as a reason to trade it and swear off Fords for ever.
  • I'm sorry to hear of your problems with your ZTS. We're driving an 04 ZTW which to this point in time has treated us well. I hope you can get some satisfaction with the dealership soon or as suggested involve other Ford parties or go to another dealership if one is available. Use that 3/36 warranty to it's fullest extent. It would seem to me that if you are otherwise enjoying your car that you should get the problems cleared and not jump too quickly into another "car deal" and more money from your bank account. Please tell me more about the "recall" on the heated seats. Our wagon has that option and I've turned it on to see that both seats warm but have not used the heat as there has been no need. Is this a bonafide Ford recall? All details, please. Thanks.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,613
    it's termed a customer satisfaction program. not all cars with heated seats are affected. a guy at work has the exact twin of my car, and he didn't get a letter. when my seats were done, they needed to keep the car overnight, but gave me a loaner. it smelled bit like glue for about a day.
  • 01 zx3 5 speed 19k. I enjoy the heck out of the car, Has plenty of pep for ordinary driving and I really enjoy the low end torque of the 2.0 zetec compared to the recent cars I have test ridden.

    I test rode a Eleantra GT, Mazda 3 with the 2.3 and a Corolla S. They all rev faster and higher to get going especially in 1st gear. The Corolla is a POS to drive to me, the engine sound horrible and the shifting action sucks. The Eleantra shifts awesome but 1st gear is LOUD and the gearing is too tall. The Mazda 3 is total fun but the price tag scares me for what is still an small car. I mean that thing is close to 19 to 20k.

    I got my ZX3 new for 11,300 before tax, Lic so I saved a bundle compared to what small fun cars go for now.

    The more I test ride these others cars the more I like my car. Ford built the Focus with a flatter torque curve and Its great for someone who lives in Seattle with tons of traffic.
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    Try the new Focus, once you get past the boring interior, I think you'll find the new 2.0L to be a blast. Same low end torque you are use to, new 5 speed tranny and with 2k cash back, still a good value.

    Plus you get the 5yr/100k mile powertrain warranty.

    The 2.0 is a Mazda engine. Mazda tuns it for more high revving horsepower at cost of low end torque.

    Pass on the Focus ST. The 2.3L really doesn't add enough performance to justify the up to $20k sticker price. If you are thinking of spending that kind of money, definitely go with the Mazda3...Have yet to see a better interior on a sub 20k car than the Mazda3's.

  • Picked up the car a few days ago, leftover '04, ZTS, 2.3, 5 speed, moonroof, 6-cd changer, alloy wheels (no tach though). Got them down, after rebate, to $11,990 + tax, tags, etc. Inferno red is a bit more than I'm used too (black and silver are my usual choices), but I'm getting used to it. Being a left over, it had 115 miles on it, and a few scratches (dealer re painted both bumpers per my request). This is my first stick and I'm getting the hang of it now. I was wondering If you can shift 1 - 3 in this car or is better to go to 2nd? In NYC, there are so many stop signs and traffic, I find myself constantly shifting. Also, is it normal for the car to make a light crunching noise when braking to a stop (end of stop only)? That noise and a fluid shaking noise (like a bottle of water being shaken when I stop) are my only concerns. Otherwise it's a blast to drive.
  • tmtestmtes Posts: 1
    I'm considering buying a 2003LX Focus sedan at an Enterprize sale for AAA., but I'm really confused about the 13 different types of Focus 2004 models, can't get information on 2003. Is the LE a stock car? Because the cd players and automatic doors seem to be a standard item in all focus models but not in the LX? and is the 2.0 liter engine better than the 2.3? I'm assuming that there are three sedans the Lx(2.0) SE(2.0) and ZTS (2.3 liter) So is $8,999.00 -38,000 miles a good price for this automatic Lx sedan? It kinda looks like a 2004 with an X plan and incentives, may not be too far off in price?
    I am driving a toyota eco rent-a-car and love the car but hate the transmission... keep feeling that i should shift gears when this is an automatic! Is the focus a similar engine? I did liked the way the focus drove...but the breaks were low...they said they would fix it.

    OH... the list I printed from the kelley blue book site, Does shows a Focus ATW-4CYL Zetec (2.3L) Wagon in 2004. and the prior writer was right, I couldn't get any good information from the Ford site either in regards to the different styles of sedan focus's or information on prior year models. Tess
  • I recently purchased a brand new '04 ZX5 with the 2.3 liter engine. We bought it for my wife and the main reason for going with such a small car was the fuel savings potential. Although we really are happy with the performance and overall quality of the car I have to say that the one biggest disappointment thus far has been the fuel economy. The sticker listed it as 22-31 MPG and I have heard other new car owners (not necessarily Ford) comment that they even get higher than the sticker had indicated. So based on that and the fact that my wife and I are both pretty conservative drivers, I was expecting 30+MPG at least on the highway usage. Well, we have around 3,500 miles thus far and have yet to exceed 25 MPG. I know that on highway trips we are taking the whole family which is a family of 5. But our three boys are less than the weight of one person so we are basically travelling with 3 adults' weight. Even on trips in 55 MPH highways where the fuel economy should be near its best it still has not changed. My question is what are others getting for mileage and am I expecting too much in wanting 30 MPG? Because if I am expecting too much then I am regretting not buying a larger vehicle in that is proven to get at least the 25 MPG.
  • I wouldn't worry just yet. Every car has a different break in period, some more than others. My Jeep Grand Cherokee took 10,000 miles before I started to see "sticker" highway mileage. I never did reach city mpg's though and I drive on a lot of mixed roads. There are many factors besides weight that can play havoc with mpgs. Have you checked the air in your tires? Tried different brands of gas? If neither of these, wait until your 2nd oil change and see if it's any better. My focus is too new (and a stick) to compare yet.

  • My 01 ZX3 at best has gotten maybe 30, 31 MPG freeway

    If its a combo freeway, city than its about 23 average.

    I dont really care anymore after 3 years of ownership because I have come to believe all those EPA stickers are bull@@@@.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,613
    the info you want is very close by. click on the 'used cars' tab here at edmunds and go from there. the lx seems to be the base model.
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,613
    22-31 mpg means an automatic. don't know about mileage with that. have a 2.3 5 speed(25-33) with a bit over 6k miles on it. lowest mileage is 26.7 several times, best is 31.5 several times. only one 'long' trip(about a 100 miles round).
    what are your tire pressures? 55 may not be the best speed. have you tried other speeds?
  • I have not checked the tire pressure yet but I will do that tonight. It is due to go in for an oil change at the dealer ship now (one of our freebie changes with the purchase) so I will give it a bit more time after that to pass judgement on it.

    You may be right that 55 MPH is not the optimum speed for economy. I was told by a co-worker that it would be better at that. However, I have made some trips on freeways at 65-70 MPH and it was about the same.

    I have not tried premium gas brands yet either. I have always figured that the economy increase is cancelled out by the increase in gas price. Has this seemed to be the case or not in other people's experience?
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,665
    Unless the owner's manual recommends premium it probably won't help and it certainly wouldn't help enough to offset the additional cost.

    EPA mileage tests are so far removed from actual driving that you can't really expect your real world mileage to match. There are too many factors involved - altitude, tires/pressure, driving style, terrain, ambient temperature - to really predict. Keep your air filter clean, use the correct octane fuel, increase your air pressure by a few pounds over OEM spec (but don't exceed the maximum on the tire) and go light on the throttle and you'll get the maximum fuel mileage for your car. Also make sure you're measuring it correctly.
  • I am sure we are measuring it correctly becuse we actually run nearly the full tank between each fill-up. I am a very anal type who checks the mileage on all of my vehicles on every tank. On all of the vehicles that I have ever owned I have been able to get at or near the top of the mileage rating, and in good conditions I go above the rating. So based on that I know that our driving habits are good in the sense of economy. I have the 16" rims with the low profile tires. I can't imagine this having much effect on the economy because the overall tire height should be pretty close to that of the 15" tires normally installed. But as I mentioned I will check the tire pressure. I have not check the air filter yet but I doubt that it has become an issue yet with only a little over 3,000 miles on the car. We do no driving on dirt roads so the filter should be pretty clean.

    I had asked the dealership to take a look at the fuel economy when they had it in a couple of weeks ago. My wife was the one that picked up the car so I did not get to talk to them about it. But their comment to them was, "Let's wait another 1,000 miles or so and take a look at it." That sounds to me like they don't want to deal with it because they don't foresee anything they can do to help it.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,665
    It's not the difference in tire circumference - if they're OEM then that's probably the same. A lower profile tire is typically a bit wider and stickier than a regular tire and that can provide more rolling resistance. The wheels/tires may also be heavier than the 15" versions. That may or may not be a factor.

    Each vehicle is unique and your driving style may simply fit one vehicle better than the other.

    If it's within 10%-15% of EPA it's probably normal. More than that may suggest a problem.
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