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Buick Regal

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  • jackjtjackjt Posts: 178
    I looked at a whole raft of cars before settling on the GS. Looked/drove Maximas, BMW's, Passats, Linclon LS and for the horse power, comfort, room (esp. front seat leg room), price, I chose the GS! So far I have not been dissappointed. Why pay close to if not $40,000 for a BMW or LS, when you can get a GS in the mid 20's!
  • armtdmarmtdm Posts: 2,057
    Traded a Maxima SE stick shift for a Buick Regal GSE last month ( an old 2000 model sitting around for a while) so here are the observations.

    Supercharger very smooth, in fact, unlike a turbo, cannot even tell when it kicks in. Front end is sluggish, not as responsive as the Maxima, does not handle quite as well as the SE did. Power, yes, plenty. Rear seating space, smaller then the SE. Dealer/manufacturer issues read on

    Small paint chip by mirror, nut/wing nut that hold the plastic cowling on the engine was missing, all four tires had different air pressure and spare at 45 lbs in lieu of 60. License plate not on tight (put on by dealer) supercharged emblem missing (had to order from parts) and at 733 miles I was leaking oil profusely. Dealer had to tighten all of the oil pan bolts, loose from the factory.
    I hope that this is it, and police do notice it, I have a ticket to prove it.

    Great car, tremendous value especially when buying a 2000 model in Feb 2001, the dealers are hurting, cannot give them away, well not quite that bad.

    Who has had experience as to when the oil change light will come on?????
  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,065
    you should change the oil promptly at 3000 miles. The SC uses the motor oil for lubrication and adds wear.
  • armtdmarmtdm Posts: 2,057
    Something wrong here. If you say the supercharger uses the engine oil to cool I believe that you are incorrect as it has its own lubricant which the manual says to check at 30,000. Are you confusing superchargers with Turbos which can be coolant cooled but mostly oil cooled via the engine oil?????.
  • obyoneobyone Posts: 8,065
    You are correct. I thought that the GS used the Vortech supercharger which uses the engine oil for lubrication. My bad.
  • etharmonetharmon Posts: 399
    I think all GM 3800s use an Eaton supercharger. Any good finance deals on Regals right now? As some of you know, I have a 98 Intrigue which is a lease and the lease will be up this summer. I'm seriously considering another Intrigue, but of lately they are hard to come by as it seems GM has cut production way back. I don't know if this is permanent or will change, but if it doesn't change I will have to look elsewhere and the Regal GS is naturally my second choice. Olds has some good finance deals such as 0.9% for 36 months and 3.9 for 60 months and has been know to do 0.9 for 60 months as the model year winds down. Just wondering if there are any similar finance options on Regals.
  • pacinpelopacinpelo Posts: 142
    I checked the owners manual they say it comes on when the oil life is less than 10%. I will not waitthat long. I just did about 3400 miles before my last change and the oil change life said 41%. Just for the hey of it I reset the numbers before I changed the oil and it sat at 99% and did not change for the whole day of driving. Basically this feature, to me so far, has no value.
  • pacinpelopacinpelo Posts: 142
    What oil is everyone using?
    I was looking at the idea of a straight 30 weight racing oil from Kendall. I have found that this last very well after 3,000 and even more miles.
  • jackjtjackjt Posts: 178
    10w-30 Pennzoil every 3000 miles
  • armtdmarmtdm Posts: 2,057
    I have been using Amosil synthetic for 9 years on multiple cars and with oil analysis. On this Buick GSE I recently purchased I will cahnge the oil first time around 2500 to synthetic then go 5,000-7,500 and then probably 12,000 between changes with a filter change at 6 -7,000 miles. This Buick gets a lot of highway miles and my previous car I did the 12,000 mile routine and oil analysis great. Other cars and schedules are
    1992 Camry V6, every 7,500 miles 132,000 on it
    1996 Mercury Mystique 4 Cyl, once a year filter at 6 months
    1997 Isuzu Rodeo, V6, 59,000 miles, every 7,500
    1997 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 Twin turbo, every 5,000 miles, only 14,500 total miles
    All use Amsoil 10W30 except the Mercury which is on a 0W30 diet. All have synthetic tranny and gear oil fluids (Buick has not been changed yet)
    Even Consuemr reports says that 3,000 mile changes are a thing of the past, even with petroleum oils.
    Note, because of the oil change light on the Buicks they cannot void any warranty do to not changing your oil prior to the light coming on.
  • pjonkheerpjonkheer Posts: 22
    Do you guys think the GS is faster or slower with the Traction Control turned off?? I think the car is slower without it off because the tires will spin too much. My tires spin quite a bit when I have it on. Thoughts??
  • yurakmyurakm Posts: 1,345
    What transmission filter would you recommend with synthetic fluid?
  • armtdmarmtdm Posts: 2,057
    Almost every auto tranny built today has a screen not a true filter. So if you drop the pan normally the gasket and screen are replaced or the screen simply cleaned. I am not pleased tthat this GSE does not have a drain plug for the tranny fluid, so much easier to change when you can pull a plug in lieui of the really messy job of dropping the pan

    If you were asking about oil filters, my oil analyis over the years has said that there are a few that actually filter better then the OEM. These are Mobil 1, Amsoil/Hastings and the Pure One LIne of Purolator filters. AC Delco Gold is supposed to be good also. Frams are truly crap, poor construction, especially the anit drainback valve. Of course, on my GSE the filter is hanging straight down so this valve has little use in a this application.
  • papowellpapowell Posts: 6
    I'm seriously considering a '96 Regal with only 16000 miles. The Regal has the 3.8L 3800 V6 so it's very attractive from a performance standpoint.

    The car will become the "family car" which means my wife will drive the baby around in it, and we will take the Regal on long trips.

    Reliability is key so I don't want to buy a car that will give me a bunch of problems. I hear this car has chronic brake problems. Is this true? Are there other problems that will sneak up on me?

    The car is in excellent condition so I want to go for it, would you'll recommend it?

    Thanks!
  • yurakmyurakm Posts: 1,345
    Thank you!


    I am planning to switch to Mobil 1 oil / Pure One filter at 8k miles with Regal GS. Just to be sure concerning the break-in. Changed oil at 2k and 5k with what oil/filter Firestone and dealer put in.


    I am already using Pure One filter and Mobil-1 oil with my 98 Malibu. They are practically always available at my local Pep Boys. Learned late about synthetic, and started to use them toward the end of warranty, at about 35 k miles. Had only two changes with Mobil-1.


    Now the car is approaching 40k miles. GM recommends to do transmission service at 50k miles with severe driving conditions (Connecticut is a hilly place), and never with ideal conditions. I decided to do it now, either at Chevrolet dealer or Firestone, and to switch to Mobil synthetic fluid. Though, do not know what filter.


    AC Delco produces three kinds of filters: simple mesh screen, paper, and top-of-line composite:


    http://www.acdelco.com/parts/1195_set.htm


    but they have no catalog on-line for transmission filters. Hard to know, if all three kinds of filters are available for the Malibu (or other specific cars) and where to buy. Other manufacturers, like Hastings, offer one filter for Malibu.

  • armtdmarmtdm Posts: 2,057
    remember that a drain and fill by dropping the pan only gets about half the fluid, which is why I like a plug as it can be done more often. A flush will get all of the fluid which may be a consideration if you are switching to synthetic. Whether dealer does it or chain shop I suggest watching the whole process and never trust anyone to do it right. re check the fuild level Asap as noted in the manual because no one will take the time to do it right when it is replaced. The dealer will not spend the time to drive the car 10-15 miles heat the fuild up and check it. They will let it idle etc. but "its is not the same" they either overfill (worse beacuse it is more of a pain to get it out then to add some) or underfill it because they never measure how much drains out and it can vary!!!!!!! I have had my tranny fluid overfilled or under way too many times and I prefer to do it myself.
  • armtdmarmtdm Posts: 2,057
    Like almost all products today one cannot do a fair comparison. I just visited the Delco parts page noted earlier in a post. They give the comparisons of the Delco Gold oil fitler at 98% single pass efficiency. Who cares!!!!! How many filters do you use that get one pass? There is a test for multiple pass efficiency (which is what you really want to know) for oil filters (but not mandated by the industry as a test) which is really what you want but very few if any filter makers will publish those results??? I think Mobil 1 filters came out on top for the multiple pass test!!!!
  • rcarbonircarboni Posts: 290
    Here's an article on the Acura TL - notice the first line of the Performance paragraph. Hehehe.


    http://www.twcny.rr.com/carplace/cars/00-acu-3.2/00-acu-3.2.2.shtml


    Now, this is not a Type-S, so the power is a bit less at 225hp. However, I don't think there are any Type-S drivers getting into the 13's at the track with a near stock engine. On the other hand, here's a bunch of GTPs and a Regal with those honors:

    https://secure.westserver.net/motorsports/menu_13_sec_club.htm


    It doesn't take much to push a stock GTP or Regal into the 13 second club, and with some extra goodies, you'll be racing Vipers in the 12's. Better start looking at roll bars!

  • yurakmyurakm Posts: 1,345
    I did not see comparisions with Mobil-1 filter, but it looks as Pure One is very good in this department:


    http://www.pureoil.com/pureone.htm

  • yurakmyurakm Posts: 1,345
    Thank you so much for info about transmission service, and for good ideas!


    I had read before about the fluid capacity at GM site


    http://www.gmpowertrain.com/transmissions/4t40_main.htm


    (this is about Malibu, but the same with other transmissions). But it never came to me to flush the transmission. To the best of my understanding, without flush I will have a blend of new synthetic fluid and the old one. About 50/50 after the first change... To be more precise, 7l/12.5l = 56% synthetic to 44% dyno.


    On the other hand, if the natural oil based fluid is good enough for 50k miles even with severe service conditions, and up to infinity in light service, probably this does not matter so much. The 56% of synthetic is any case better than 100% dyno. Even more, than after the second service 80% of fluid will be synthetic, and 91.5% after the third one. Then the car will have 100k on odometer, 8 year old or so...


    So I will ask around about the transmission flush: availability, prices, etc. And how often they do the flush, how much experience. Probably better to have the service without flush at good place than with flush at "quick lube".


    As to checking fluid level after service, this is very good idea.


    Always need to check tire pressure. Every second time have to adjust to my preference, and once was way off high (inflated to the sidewall value!).


    Used to check oil level too, but in my experience there was no problem except slight over filling - about 1/2 qt. excess - roughly every second time. This is no problem with me.

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