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Legacy vs. Suzuki Kizashi



  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    We were just in Miami Beach, and at the Loewes, a fancy hotel, the valets parked an Aston Martin, an Audi, two BMWs, and a 2010 Subaru Legacy up front. :shades:
  • My point of view comes from previously driving a GMC truck, BMW 3-series, a Saab 9-3, a VW Jetta TDI, a MB C-Class AWD, and a Suzuki SX4 touring crossover. I recently purchased a 2010 Suzuki Kizashi SLS AWD Automatic in Platinum Silver. Can I tell you how much I love the Kizashi? And this means alot because I am no Suzuki apologist. Before choosing Kizashi, I looked at Toyota Camry & Prius, Mazda 6, Ford Fusion, Honda Accord, and the Subaru Legacy. For me, Kizashi seemed like a perfect fit---more style, options, and luxury for a smaller price point. The handling and interior reminds me considerably of the MB I used to drive. Performance-wise, I have had no problem flying up highway I-70 into the Colorado Rockies, with or without using the paddle shifters or auto manual functions. Luckily for Coloradans, there are several dealerships in the area. Shop around if you can. I went to Medved; Lisa gave me an amazing deal. Definitely, test drive it before you cross it off your list. You will be pleasantly surprised.
  • easypareasypar ColoradoPosts: 186
    Congratulations. I didn't consider the Suzuki as I wanted more of a "known quantity" that Subaru offers and more of an assurance that they'll be around in future and have a presence anywhere I travel.

    I looked at the new car pricing in here and to outfit the Kizashi like my Legacy Limited the MSRP would have been very close to the Subie. Not sure how much, if any discount would have swayed me.

    Just curious, how long did you own the SX4 and I guess you were pleased enough with it to go back to the source.

    Anyway, enjoy the ride and maybe I'll see you up on the slopes.

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Congrats. :shades:

    I don't get something - Suzuki sales were down 72% in March, what's up with that?

    Kizashi should be picking them up, are they still in short supply or something?
  • I was NOT a fan of my 2009 Suzuki SX4 automatic touring crossover. In fact, I hated it. I called it the shitzhu. It had excessive road noise and the droning automatic transmission was a nightmare if you wanted to drive up I-70 into the Rockies. Now, having said that, I did test drive the 2010 SX4 touring crossover with CVT/automanual transmission. The CVT is a huge improvement! It also seemed to have less road noise. I would recommend the 2010 SX4 CVT for budget conscious folks who want a utilitarian vehicle with AWD capability. If you are a true car enthusiast, I definitely recommend the Kizashi.
  • The dealerships I went to here Denver said that Kizashi is still in short supply. American Suzuki really needs to a major advertising campaign to let people know the car even exists. The dealerships here say they selling them as quickly as they can get them in. However, I have yet to see another one on the road here in my neighborhood. Despite all that, I still love the Kizashi. I not paying a premium with tons of expensive scheduled maintenances for car that feels very much premium. Now, I realize this may be a bit of gamble....the car may depreciate quickly. But, traditional luxury cars lose considerable value as well.
  • I owned it only 9 months.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Suzuki also discontinued cheaper models, so those sales are lost.

    Hopefully Kizashi can at least pick up the slack.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Interesting article:

    Suzuki cripples Kizashi plan
    Without technology from GM, hybrid and V-6 vanish

    Read more: 429#ixzz0kEQHAJqG
  • Well, I would not panic, at least not yet. GM does not have competitive hybrid technology, as a matter of fact it has none. As far as V6s goes, they seemed to be a dying breed (thanks to Hussein Obama's CAFE STDS) in midsize sedan class. Even future VW Passat is not gonna have V6 engine (they must taken a clue from Sonata). I looked in my crystal ball, and I see the future: VW TSFI turbo in the Kizashi, and this I'd buy in a heart beat.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Yeah, GM's hybrid is old-tech. But Suzuki is too small to design their own.

    They'd be better off getting a TDI engine from VW as far as fuel misers go.

    I hadn't thought about the VW partnership until this artible popped up.
  • Man, this (VW TDI) engine in the Kisashi, considering its able chassis would be much better match than any hybrid, and a bona fide contender to boot.
    Just a few days ago I took a VW Jetta Sportwagen TDI for a long (one hour) test drive on very diversified surfaces and roads (concrete freeways and black top twisty country roads), and I was mighty impressed. Aside from huge economical disadvantage of the TDI, cost of fuel and and ca. $4000 premium compare to gasoline mill, considering VW's spotty quality and very inconsistent reliability, I would definitely stay clear from this brand. I am speaking from my own experiance and more than fair share of problems with 2002 Passat. On the other hand, I'd love to see, and possibly buy Forester with boxer TDI.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    They have one in Europe but it won't meet CARB emissions standards unless they add urea injection, which would make it expensive.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,675
    I can't figure out why people are buying more VW's worldwide than ever before. All I hear is bad news about how they break down from this thing or that thing. Do they reach popularity merely on body style?

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I think they have improved, not to mention the difference between the most and least reliable cars is much smaller than it used to be.

    Our nanny's daughter owned a Passat lemon, I swear she drove a Ford Five Hundred loaner more miles than she drove her Passat.

    I really like TDIs but I'm not sure I could ever pull the trigger.

    All cars have their issues (wheel bearings, anyone?) but with Subaru at least I'm familiar with them and there is a community around to help.
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,742
    edited April 2010
    I can't figure out why people are buying more VW's worldwide than ever before. All I hear is bad news about how they break down from this thing or that thing. Do they reach popularity merely on body style?

    VW became the largest auto maker in the world because Toyota cut production last year. Also VW doesn't focus on the North America market like Toyota and GM. They have focused their sales efforts in China and South America - places the recession hasn't affected. They are also the number one brand in Europe with about 20% market share in western Europe.

    I own an 05 Passat and completely love it. Great intial quality and thus far great long term reliability.

    Every brand has issues - it wasn't too long ago that Toyota was considered bullet-proof.
  • marvinlee1marvinlee1 OregonPosts: 43
    I owned a Suzuki Verona, purchased new. It was a very nice car despite some reliability issues. When considering a new car, I drove the Suzuki Kizashi and was unimpressed by the four cylinder engine noise and vibration, the small size, limited features, and the dark interior. It all felt marginal. We bought a Subaru six cylinder Legacy Limited and find it quite acceptable despite its own list of cost cutting issues.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Some people like a smaller sedan, and think the Legacy grew too much.

    Though I will say the majority of the public thinks the same way you do, just look at Legacy sales lately.
  • cammy2cammy2 Posts: 1
    kizashi is a great car everybody have they own likes and dislikes...i love the kizashi so much i bought one the car drives great...great value for the money putting a lot of main stream auto makers to shame with they big ugly cars...go suzuki...funny suzuki is in the same position hyundai was a couple years ago it wasnt cool to have a hyundai but suzuki cars are way better looking kizashi is a great start stop hating on suzuki kizashi and buy one you will like this car...i do..privious car was a jetta
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,675
    I think like you do. The new Suzuki Kizashi rocks! Whoo-hoo!

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

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