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Oldsmobile Aurora



  • rjs200240rjs200240 Posts: 1,277
    No problem. So you replaced the pair? Did you perchance turn them on after replacing only the burned out one? I'd just be curious what they looked like against a wall or something. Glad they were brighter. I liked the XtraVisions in my wife's car, and I actually would have tried them for my conversion but they don't make 9005 XtraVisions, so I went with SilverStars. But I'd never seen HalogenPluses and XtraVisions side by side. I like Sylvania, and I'm glad they came through for you and it wasn't just marketing hype.

    Other Steve (lol), yeah I put a 9005 in my low-beam housing. I wouldn't modify the housing if I were you, as it's quite expensive. I modified the bulb. It's easy to do. You need to trim down one of the tabs that lock it in (though, the more you trim, the more you'll have to play with the bulb rotating it to get a good beam pattern, since the tab determines the stop when rotating it). And you have to remove a little bump in the connector (on the bulb, not the car) so that they will hook up. These changes are just so a person wouldn't accidentally put the bulb in the wrong housing.

    A 9006 (low beam) bulb pulls 55 watts, though they can pull up to 60 watts to allow for poor quality control I guess. The 9005 (high beam) bulb pulls 65 watts, not sure what the max is, I think 70 watts. But Sylvania makes a quality bulb, so I doubt they are on the edges of the specs much. So it is really about 5-10 watts more draw than the spec. This is sort of chancy, but not a big chance (IMO). It's much better than the 80-100 watt pieces of crap you can buy on Ebay (IMO). I would imagine the extra heat would be of similar proportion assuming both bulbs are about as efficient in turning electricity into light.

    The big bonus is that a 9006 bulb puts out 1000 lumens. A 9005 bulb puts out 1700 lumens. Part of this is the increased wattage, and I think part is probably that the bulb isn't shielded on the tip. They are usually a flat looking shield, so I don't know if they reflect much of that light back or just absorb it. So for about 10-20% more current draw, you get 70% more light. In my opinion, though, if you adjust the bulb to where the beam pattern is maintained as much as possible (since you trim the tab, you can mess with the pattern by rotating it a few degrees each way) then the impact to other drivers in the form of dazzle or glare is pretty minimal. You can see how the beam cuts off below the glass on vehicles, and I've also seen the lights from the front in another car. They aren't bad, just a bit whiter (due to the SilverStar, not the 9005). Also, the light is mostly in those two central beams which are very tight and stay in your lane. The projectors really have good control of the light. I would guess that if you came over a rise that curved, and a car was in the right spot, a driver would get a pretty bright face-full. But then even with the regular lows, the central beam would be pretty bright. The high-beams are also still very useful since the lows put the light all down on the road. The highs light up everything else.
  • sdasda Posts: 308
    I did replace the pair. And yes, out of curiosity, I did look at what they looked like with one new and one old bulb. The new bulb is slightly brighter and whiter, making the old bulb look somewhat yellow and dim. Couldn't have that! So I changed both. I like your idea of using 9005s in the low beam. I bet it makes a great difference, thou I am pleased with my upgrade. Didn't have time to do it thou...wife wanted relief from all day with our 2yr old, and was already annoyed that I had to spend money on the 'stupid car'. She just doesn't understand.. Oh boy.
  • rjs200240rjs200240 Posts: 1,277
    sda: "wife wanted relief from all day with our 2yr old, and was already annoyed that I had to spend money on the 'stupid car'."

    On behalf of all Aurora owners: Ouch...

    Didn't you pick yours up for some ridiculously cheap $13k and some change?

    You can get a feel for the brightness difference if you look at the photos I posted in the Acces&Mod section. It's pretty noticable in the photo of it half done.
  • sdasda Posts: 308
    Didn't you pick yours up for some ridiculously cheap $13k and some change? That's me. Love the car. Can't wait to find a reason to go out and drive! That V8 growl makes me smile. Wife not as enthusiastic. She's not a car person. She knew I was a car nut from the day she met me, but no matter. Enjoy!
  • rjs200240rjs200240 Posts: 1,277
    Hey, was reading your post in the Intrigue board. Figured I'd comment over here so as not to ruffle feathers.

    Oh, also, fyi, didn't mean offense about the cheap thing. It's just you got such a lot of car for such a steal. It was funny your wife was complaining about $20 worth of headlamp. Nothing meant by it. :)

    I think the cornering lamps on my wife's Regal are nice. My Corvette had cornering lamps too. They are quite useful, and it would be nice if the Aurora had them.

    Give the steering wheel time. Maybe it's just because you are used to the Intrigue. Maybe they are different, but the Regal's wheel is very soft. It's like squishy soft. Even the plastic part near the spokes is. The Aurora's wheels has nice smoothly soft leather, and just a hint of squish to it. But it is thick and firm and comfortable. I find it to feel excellent in my hands. Comfortable yet serious, a bit of give, but a firmness hidden under that.

    As far as acceleration, I think if you lined up next to an Intrigue, you'd see it's a fair bit quicker. I think part of it is that the Aurora is more comfortable and the suspension is more deceptive (it is quite firm handling without riding harshly at all).
  • sdasda Posts: 308
    RJS200240. No offense taken. I just get tickled at my wife, and thought I'd share. I can't complain, thou. She takes good care of me. :)
    I agree the Aurora has a nice steering wheel. I don't think the Intrigue's steering wheel is as squishy as the Regal, but it had a nice softness to it, (it just felt supple) and unlike the Regal, it was a full leather wheel like in the Aurora. Power is certainly not an issue. The Aurora is more powerful, not significantly so. I think the Aurora will do 0-60 in about 7.5, and the Intrigue in about 8.0 sec. Different final ratio of 3.71 vs 3.05 also makes a difference. Don't get me wrong, I really like the Aurora, and have no regrets in buying it. The more I drive it, the more I appreciate how solid, refined, and fun to drive it is. I wouldn't mind a folding rear seat, cornering lamps, and better mpg. Wish lists are fun..
  • "...and just a hint of squish to it. But it is thick and firm and comfortable. I find it to feel excellent in my hands. Comfortable yet serious, a bit of give, but a firmness hidden under that..."

    Jeez Bob, we're going to have to make this an adults only thread soon. You and the Aurora need to get a room!! :)
  • you guys dont kiss yours' good night? ;)
  • It's winter here in Michigan...last time I tried that my lips stuck to the hood...Not good.
  • My '97 has cornering lamps. I'm surprised they were dropped from the 2001+, but you guys have rear fog lamps.
  • rjs200240rjs200240 Posts: 1,277
    Hey Brian, I bet the next time you're at a dealership, you'll be feeling the steering wheel if they have any 01+'s on the lot... ;) :P
  • Hi everyone,

    I wanted to let anyone who might consider buying a Final 500 Aurora know that they are just about all gone, but I know where you can still get a very nice optioned one if you are interested.

    I visited the dealer I bought my car from over the holidays to finish up loose end promises made to me by my salesman as part of my negotiated deal on my car. I found out that they still had not sold the last Final 500 that they had. They originally were allocated and ordered two of them - my car and one other.

    If you are interested in getting it, email me at the address in my profile. I can tell you more about it, where it is located, and who to contact to inquire about it. It has nearly all the Aurora amenities including the sunroof and CD/Cassette BOSE sound system.

    I am NOT a car salesman and am only promoting it because I have one, (and LOVE IT!) and absolutely hate that it is languishing on the lot without a buyer who would truly appreciate such a wonderful luxury car that could be collectible one day.

    If I had the money, I would buy it myself. However, I would like someone on this board to own it, if possible, to 'keep it in the family'. ;-)


    Bryant Tarvin
  • I'm looking for loaded '03 (nav, s/f. htd seats), whenever or not its a Final 500, I would go either way.

    What options did yours came with?
  • 2k1olds2k1olds Posts: 98
    just purchased a 2001 3.5; this is the finest car I have driven(and I have owned many-just ask my wife).Just a few of things maybe someone can help with:
    1. There is a whistling noise coming from the defroster(but not all the time). Could this just be a piece of debris from previous owner? Anybody else had this problem?
    2.I drive with my hand on the shifter(know I shouldn't, just feels good. When tranny is downshifting to first gear, I feel something snapping(only way I can describe it)in the shifter. Car shifts great, just concerned about that "feel".
  • I too have an '01. To answer your questions:

    1- I'm not sure what the whistling is. That is not present in mine.

    2- The "click" feel in the shifter is normal. It happens at each shift point and I believe it has to do with moving the shifter to drive without the overdrive (3) or even lower gears. I think it is how the car "knows" how to react to a downshift if you chose to do it.

    3- The most common problem on these cars seems to be a noise and loose feeling in the steering. The cars have one inherent design flaw-the intermediate steering shaft often needs lubrication and even replacement. The dealers are very familiar with this since there is a technical service bulletin on this issue.

    Good luck. I hope you enjoy the car as much as I do.
  • rjs200240rjs200240 Posts: 1,277
    Just a guess here. There was a TSB on early 2001's to fix a condition where papers can be pulled from the glovebox into the vents. I think the fix is just some plastic shield installed. But if some paper got sucked up into the defroster outlets, that could account for the whistling. ;)
  • 2k1olds2k1olds Posts: 98
    Thanks Rocket and RJS,
    steering on the car so far is smooth as silk. Can I go to an Olds dealer to request service history?
    What do I need to get this? Cost? Car is still under factory warranty, according to carfax. I bought it in December with only 12,900 miles on it, and it still has 37,000/10 months left on factory warranty.
  • rjs200240rjs200240 Posts: 1,277
    Well, the Aurora and us will be moving to a new place near the end of February. The wife and I put a bid on a house this weekend and it got accepted. Needless to say it has a two-car garage. We are all quite excited! :D

    The tough decision will be whether to decorate the garage with Aurora posters, or my study... ;)
  • javidoggjavidogg Posts: 366
    I for sure would go with the Aurora posters,
    also an Aurora banner too.

    look on ebay there only like five bucks, for a poster that's 10"X8", you can frame them, some are bigger too.

    Good luck with the new place.

  • rjs200240rjs200240 Posts: 1,277
    I have several... The tough choice was whether to put them in the garage or in my study... ;)
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