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Toyota Tacoma: Problems & Solutions

pocahontaspocahontas Posts: 802
edited March 19 in Toyota
Copy/pasted for Waxer:

#0 of 0: Toyota tunes (waxer) Thu 14 Dec '00
(03:17 PM)

17000 miles M/L on 2000 prerunner and rear end is
squealing upon deceleration. Anyone else? Vehicle
is street only driven and very well maintained.
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  • webbdwebbd Posts: 176
    I got a 2000 Prerunner as well, now with 29,000 miles (like to drive), and I had the same annoyance around your mileage. I no longer have the problem. I was having my oil changed by Jiffy Lube every 2500 miles, but they weren't lubing the chassis. So the next time you take your truck in for an oil change, make sure you watch the technicians lube your chassis. This seemed to cure my problem. Don't be alarmed, though, because it is only a vibration problem and not an indicator of something wrong with the driveline, diff, axle, etc. I suspect that a lot of quick-change oil centers skip the lubing of car and truck chassises because they view it as unimportant or needless. I had a few words with Jiffy Lube and never returned to that particular center. If you want things done right, you either have to do them yourself or stand over someone and make sure that they do them. Hope this relieves you.
  • I have a 99 PreRunner V-6. I just started noticing the squeel. I'll look at the lubing of the chassis. Thanks.
  • I also love my Tacoma. Its a 1998 sr5 ext cab 4x4 4 cyl auto. But at 20k miles it developed a clunking noise when i shift out of park into drive or drive into reverse. After the dealer removed my transfer case disassembled it and found nothing wrong they then decided it was in the transmission and replaced it under warranty. Now after having a recent state inspection my mechanic said I have a leaking transfer case. Last year at this time they replaced a bent shift rod in the transfercase because it would not go into 4wheel drive, just got it back from the dealer for the leak. It has gobs of red sealer pushing out between the case halfs! I hope the leak stays fixed as I'm getting tired of the problems. The reason I purchased a Tacoma was someone told me they are the most reliable small 4x4 pick up on the market! Has anyone had any problems with there 98 Tacoma like I have or is this a fluke or poor dealer knowledge on the proper repair procedure?
  • webbdwebbd Posts: 176
    You didn't state how much or to what extent you offroad. Like how did the shift rod get bent?

    If these problems occurred independently of your own actions, then I would say it sounds like poor workmanship on behalf of the dealer. Once fixed, it shouldn't happen again. (Should have never happened in the first place, is my opinion.)

    Do you only let the dealership work on your truck? I do because I find a tendency among other mechanics to scoff at or dislike toyota or "foreign" trucks as they call them, and hence my service suffers because of this.

    I would try a new dealership, if at all possible. If you don't live where this is possible, then contact Toyota directly. Eventually you'll talk to someone who will get the problem fixed for you and correctly.

    Hope this helps.
  • Help!

    I'm extremely frustrated with my dealership, and my Tacoma, beause of Toyota's inability to fix a very annoying problem FOUR different times. The service manager eventually told me to call Toyota, and take the issue to arbitration - what a joke that was - the arbitration company is on Toyota's payroll. Since Toyota didn't make any "attempts" to fix it (they can't - they don't know what's causing it) arbitration didn't apply. Full circle, and my truck STILL isn't right. Any thoughts, ideas, comments or suggestions are sincerely appreciated:

    1998 Tacoma SR5 4x4 ex cab, auto tranny - the problem occurs after braking to a complete stop. When you remove your foot from the brake, a very solid 'thud' occurs, and it feels as if someone has bumped you from the rear. Both the drive selector (auto) and transfer case shifter visibly jump when this occurs. The harder you break, when coming to a stop, the worse the 'thud' is when you release the brake peddle. If I stop very gradually, the problem does not occur. (On two occaisions, I've had emergency situtions where I've virtually stood on the brake peddle to avoid a collision (I live in Northern VA - people drive crazy here!). In both cases, I came to a complete stop, took my foot off of the brake to begin to acellerate, and the truck acted as if it were in neutral. Within a second or two, the drive train re-engaged while the RPMs were still up, the tires chirped, and I found myself 3-5 feet forward. Not good at a busy intersection I have not been able to recreate the problem this to extreme, so this particuliar issue could essentially be ANOTHER, unrelated problem.)

    I've tolerated this for 1.5 years, and I'm at my wits end. The only other option I know of, is to have a friend drive it to reproduce the problem and have a look see for myself from under the truck when he takes his foot off of the brake.

    Anyone have any ideas or hear of a similar problem before? I'm pretty handy with a tool box and will try most anything at this point.

    Thanks!
    Ted
  • barlitzbarlitz Posts: 752
    Take it to the dealer you purchased it from and trade it in,From everybody elses opinion Toyota's are supposed to be pretty reliable,chances of 2 bad ones should be slim.
  • Oh my gosh...Barlitz back from the big dig. That quad...he got a memory that don't rest!!! Wonder what he's drivin' now, had lightning, then F250 LD, now probably driving a Tacoma? Nah...
  • sebring95sebring95 Posts: 3,231
    I've heard conflicting stories about what causes this, but it doesn't just happen to toyota. Typically it's more common in 4X4's with automatics. I've heard a few Tacoma owners complaining about this, as well as Jeep GC (there is a forum just for the thud issue), and my Jeep Cherokee does it as well. My grandpa is a service manager for a Dodge dealerhip, and he says it's likely the transmission shifting into first a bit late. Dodge had a big problem with that in their cars awhile back, most noticable if you did a very slow california stop and then gassed it. When you get back on the gas, it downshifted really hard into first causing the thud/bump feel.

    Another thought is axle wrap. Basically the geometry of the vehicle during a hard brake puts pressure on the drivetrain causing the thud. Once you release the brake, this releases the pressure through the axle/driveshafts. The harder you break, the more pressure built up in the suspension.

    Personally, I think it's the latter because of how my Jeep does it.

    Try manually downshifting to first during braking (that way you know it's in 1st before you come to a stop). If it still does it it's axle wrap and more or less a characteristic of driving a truck.

    I've only got 3000 miles on the Jeep, and I have no intention of having the dealer look at it. Nothing else is strange about the handling/ride/drivability so it really doesn't bother me. Plus there isn't really much that can fix it that I'm aware of.
  • amoraamora Posts: 204
    Try calling DOWNEY TOYOTA in So. California. For over 20 years they have serviced and
    given expert advice on all Toyota 4x4 vehicles. Check your off road mags and local areas.
    Downey was awesome in correcting minor annoyances on my '77 Landcruiser and have helped
    my buddies who've owned 4x4 Toyotas...they are suspension experts...

    Good luck
  • I've had a bunch of 4X4s, mostly Toyota and Chevy, and have noticed similar problems upon hard braking. I've always attributed it to all the u joints these vehicles have. I specifically remember taking a test drive in a new Nissan V6 4X4 with a 5 speed, probably about 1995. There was so much slop in the drive train because of all the u joints, I literally couldn't wait to get out of it! I've also had 9 Corvettes, from the late 60s-early 70s. Same problem with them... too many u joints... constant clunking. I just bought a new Prerunner V6 (2WD automatic), and it doesn't do the clunking thing that my other Toyota 4X4s did... whatever that means.
  • romkatromkat Posts: 1
    Having a problem with clutch on Taco ma TRY 4x4 1999.
    After driving in a deep snow, feel smell of burning clutch. H4 or L4 no difference.
    Interesting, are anybody had the same experience
  • I would think that it is axle wrap. The Tacoma rear leaf springs are too soft, they let the axle rotate slightly while braking. Then once you start off again, the axle jumps back into position. I have heard people adding leaf springs in the rear to fix this. Rancho makes some that are called AAL, Add-A-Leaf. They run about $40. I am considering this, since I have the same problem.

    I own a 2000 Toyota Tacoma Xtracab PreRunner V6. I love this truck, I have about 9,000 miles on it with no problems. I wouldn't consider the axle wrap a problem, just annoying. I like the V6 power, ride height, and looks. Hope this helps.
  • jeffer2jeffer2 Posts: 35
    I'm thinking about trading my car in on a new 4x4. A Tacoma with the V-6 & 5-speed is one on my short list. Any info people here could give me would be greatly appreciated. I've read about the thuds and clunks people are experiencing with interest.
    Do the 2001s have this clunking problems too? Any option I should make sure I get on a Tacoma?
    I live in Wisconsin so I have to deal with the snow and cold. I'm not sure if I'll take the truck off-road.
    If I do this, it will be my first Toyota, first 4x4, and first pick up. Thanks you. - Jeffer2
  • My advice is get a 2001 Ranger 4x4 with the 4.0L V6. I've seen some advertised for 18,999. Also get limited slip.
  • 2k1trd2k1trd Posts: 301
    My 01 is awesome (x-cab v6 TRD 5 spd)and you won't be getting any of those clunking problems with a manual trans.
  • Thanks to all that have responded re my post (#6). Barlitz, trading is out of the question. Not only am I now turned off on Toyotas (I was a hard core Toy fan prior to this truck - it's my 3rd one!), but I can't stand the idea of giving Toyota more of my $$ for the hit that I'd take on a trade.
    (PLUS - I just got my wife the '01 325XI for Christmas - in short, the idea of more car payments makes me queezy right now!)

    Sebring95 and 2000Pre - I think you've hit the nail on the head. I'd suspected the axle was the cause (inertia causes it to move forward and the brakes would then hold it in the forward position until the peddle was released.) I'll give the leaf spring addition a try - it sure can't hurt.

    BMW - For those looking to by a Tacoma, this truck is absolutely incredible off road, but handles a little sloppy on the asphalt, IMHO.

    Thanks again!
    Wed
  • My 1997 x-cab 4x4 man. had no probs whatsoever--except for the dings and breaks I did all by myself, I thought it had plenty of power for all my 4x4 needs. I live in Idaho and took on several rough trails--always plenty of juice-- i never hauled over 1000lbs though-- I just traded in for a 2001 with the same specs-- i have not seen any of the probs but it is a manual. what a killer truck-- sorry sr5lemon, tough break on the fluke taco
  • I have a 1998 Tacoma SR5 XCab, V6, 5 speed, TRD. This was my first truck. I chose Toyota because of its reliability, and it hasn't disappointed me in over 183,000 miles. No break-downs, no clunks, no squeaks or rattles, and only regular maintenance has been performed (by dealers only). I had no plans to go off-roading when I bought the Tacoma (except for surf-fishing beach driving) - after taking a road trip to the Southwest and seeing all the 4x4 trails, I changed my mind. The truck is awesome off-road, even in stock form (which mine is) and is great on-road if you remember you are in a truck.

    Edmunds.com did a review in which they hated the seats. I have the bucket seats, and after many 1000+ mile days in the driver's seat, I have no problem with them. The extended cab is a great thing to have - dry, safe, storage for stuff (bad for people though), and the seats will recline far enough that you can take a nap in the truck on a long drive. Definitely get the TRD package - handling is much firmer - important if you will be towing.

    I live outside of Washington DC - 2001 SR5 V6 Extended cab w/ bucket seats, stick shift, TRD package and bedliner goes for about $20K.
  • I have a 99' Tacoma SR5 5sp with TRD package. In addition it has a sunroof, power windows, and antilock brakes. I have a 3500Lb boat which I tow on some very long trips from So. Cal to places like Lake Mead and Powell. I have not experienced any clunking problems, but the rear springs do have a tendancy to hop in sandy off-road conditions. I think this is probably true of many trucks, not just Toyotas. I would recommend to anybody the antilock brakes, they have saved my butt more than once when 85mph traffic suddenly stops dead- a frequent occurance on So Cal freeways. When towing, the truck handles the boat very well, but I wish I had 50 more hp for towing up long mountain grades (yes, I know about the TRD supercharger). Overall, a great truck, especially off-road.
  • webbdwebbd Posts: 176
    Alright, here's my dilemma--my truck rocks!

    That's it. It rocks on the highway, in the city, and, occasionally, off-road. Except for all this rocking, my toyota trucks have been trouble-free.
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