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Toyota Sienna Maintenance and Repair (2003 earlier)

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  • Here's been my experience with squealing brakes on my 2000 Sienna. I complained to my dealer, who confirmed that it was a problem that Toyota was looking into. I sent emails to Toyota via their website complaining about the problem. I got a call from my dealer early last month stating that Toyota had new redesigned brake drums that would fix the problem. They installed at no cost, but said that it wasn't a recall. I suggest going through your dealer and also complaining directly to Toyota, reminding them that having that brake problem is harming their reputation. In my case, it seems to have fixed the problem for now, but it's too early to say for sure.
  • deepandeepan Posts: 342
    you can reduce frost on the inside windows when parked by leaving the window open a bit. Leaving it open brings a new set of problems!!!re-circ should never be used during winter months. If it fogs up during driving turn on the A/C (temp turned to heat ofcourse!!). It will remove the humidity.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    Arbitration can result in a number of things. The arbiter can say that you didn't allow Toyota enough attempts to make it right. He can say Toyota can't make it right and they need to buy back your van.
  • mayerofrf,

    I would appreciate a pic of those magnets installed.

    aclarke3@aol.com
  • If you have been given the official Toyota treatment/replacement could you post the part number for the new drums? My parts department had not heard of the replacement and said that if we had a part number they would order. Please keep us posted on the "sounds of silence."
  • If I'm reading my invoice right, the part number is (2 42431-08012). The wording on the invoice said: "Replaced brake drums with Toyota redesigned brake drums". Hope this helps.
  • Will let all know if it works. Which dealer & city did the work? Also - did they have some sort of bulletin? Thanks and sorry for all of the follow-on questions.
  • ok ready take off the weights keep the same drums don't replace any parts i can fix your sienna brake noise.

    1.remove rear brake shoes
    2.locate the contact points on the backing plate
    (where the shoe hits the backing plate)
    3.see how it is checkred grind it down till smooth and lube use nissan gold break grease between the plate and shoe
    4.sand sharp edges of shoes a little
    5.reassemble rear brakes
    6.machine rear drums
    7.install rear drums
    8.adjust brakes
    9.road test
  • The dealer is Germain in Columbus, Ohio. I don't know about a bulletin, but I've been complaining to them about the brake noise for over a year.
  • We also have had our van in a number of times. Will be interested in your experiences with the new drums. FYI the old series drums - the squealers - ended in 08011, as opposed to 08012 that you received. Please keep us posted.
  • Thank you for responding. Actually just yesterday I got a letter from NCDS (the people who are handling the arbitration) with a reponse from Toyota in it. It says "Toyota has redesigned the rear drums for the brake squeal noise. We would like to install the new, redesigned drums." They said that if I'm willing to do this then to contact my dealer and they would make arrangements for the replacement. Like you said it's too early to tell if it really works. My concern is the problem will go away and then six months later the squeal will come back. Then my warranty will be up and I'm scared that I will have no more options. So I'm undecided as of now. But like everyone else is saying please keep us posted.
  • THERE ARE NO NEW DRUMS OR SHOES OR BACKING PLATES TO FIX THIS PROBLEM.THIS IS THE FIX BELOW.HAVE THEM PREFORM THIS AND THE NOISE WILL GO AWAY. NOT TO MANEY DEALERS KNOW THIS FIX AND IT IS NOT A RELEASED FIX DUE TO THE FACT IT IS NOT A SAFETY ITEM. PLEASE HAVE THEM DO THIS.YOU WILL THANK ME LATER.

    1.remove rear brake shoes
    2.locate the contact points on the backing plate
    (where the shoe hits the backing plate)
    3.see how it is checkred grind it down till smooth and lube use nissan gold break grease between the plate and shoe
    4.sand sharp edges of shoes a little
    5.reassemble rear brakes
    6.machine rear drums
    7.install rear drums
    8.adjust brakes
    9.road test
  • So you're calling the grind job an "unoffical" fix. But on your second post to anna15 you're saying to have the dealer do the work. Is there a Technical Service Bulletin tied to this yet? If not, how will this affect warranty? Just curious....I just have concerns over losing any warranty over something like this.
  • YES TOYOTA HAS NO OFFICAL POSTION ON THIS FIX.
    BUT IF YOUR DEALER CALLS TECH ASSIST OR THERE FACTORY FEILD SREVICE TECH NOT THE REP BUT THE TECH. THAY SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THIS. THE PROBLEM IS THEM DOING IT BECAUSE THAY KNOW IT IS A PROBLEM BUT NOT A SAFTEY PROBLEM IT EFFECTS EVERY VAN AND TAKES ABOUT 2 HOURS TO DO THATS A LOT OF MONEY. THE BS SLUDGE RECALL KILLED THEM ON $$$ PAYING FOR THE CUSTOMERS WHO NEGLECTED THERE VECHILES.

    IF THAY PRINT ANYTHING ABOUT THIS NOISE OR FIXING THE NOISE IT BECOMES A LEGAL PUBLIC DOCUMENT THEN THAY MUST DO SOMETHING. BUT IF THAY IGNORE IT IS NOT A SAFTEY ISSUE SO OH WELL.

    WHAT STATE ARE YOU FROM

    ANYWAY THIS IS THE FIX BRING IT TO YOUR DEALER TELL THEM WHAT TO DO IF THAY GIVE YOU A PROBLEM HAVE THEM CALL THERE FIELD REP OR TECH ASSIST TO VERIFY THE FIX GOOD LUCK
  • dustykdustyk Posts: 2,926
    >>>THE BS SLUDGE RECALL KILLED THEM ON $$$ PAYING FOR THE CUSTOMERS WHO NEGLECTED THERE VECHILES.<<

    Let me tell you something. Our Avalon has been meticously maintained by both our dealer and myself. I have always changed oil at least every 3000 miles, and yet we had the sludge problem.

    It's strange to hear that the sludge problem almost bankrupt the almost perfect, most reliable car manufacturer on the planet (at least how some Toyota owners feel brag).

    Besides the power windows that work when they want, the sway bar links that need replacing every 18K, the rotors that warp on misty nights, the transmission that shifts like a Honda Accord and been apart twice, the ABS that is the worst in the business, the moldings that have fallen off, the rust on the trunk lid, the heater core that failed, the water leak at the windshield, and the dozen or so rattles, our Avalon has been a perfect car!!

    Dusty
  • jasdmwjasdmw Posts: 118
    I noticed recently that the 2 struts supporting the rear liftgate on my '01 are rusting. No effect on operation yet, but rust is eating away at the metal on the very bottom of the 2 struts. Anyone else see this? Is it an issue? Has a strut leaked? Any info is appreciated.
  • deepandeepan Posts: 342
    i have noticed it too along with some rust on the inside mechanism (one attached to the body )of the sliding doors. I spray some lubricant.
  • I NEVER SAID THE BS SLUDGE RECALL BANKRUPT TOYOTA I JUST SAID IT COST THEM A LOT OF MONEY. WOW YOU SEEM REALY UNHAPPEY WITH YOUR TOYOTA I AM SUPRISED YOU DIDN'T TRY TO GET IT BOUGHT BACK. LIKE YOU SAID
     (Let me tell you something. Our Avalon has been meticously maintained by both our dealer and myself. I have always changed oil at least every 3000 miles, and yet we had the sludge problem)
       AND I AM SURE YOU HAVE EVERY INVOICE FOR THOSE TIMES WHEN YOU (DID IT YOUR SELF)

    AS FAR AS THE TRANS I USED TO WORK FOR HONDA NOT EVEN CLOSE PAL. THE ONLY THING THAY DO THE SAME IS TURN THE WHEELS OTHER THAN THAT COMPLETLY DIFFERENT
       IF YOUR TRANS SHIFTS LIKE A HONDA IT IS BECAUSE THE ECU IS TRYING TO LEARN YOUR ABUSIVE PATTERN

    THE BRAKES I WILL GIVE YOU THAY ARE NOT MADE TO HANDLE CUSTOMER ABUSE AVALON SHOULD HAVE TUNDRA BRAKES

    WHY DID YOU RESPOND TO ME AGINE

    DO YOU HAVE A SIENNA??? DO YOU KNOW THE REAR BREAK SQUEAL FIX???

    WELL I DO AND I JUST WANTED TO HELP THESE PEOPLE OUT
  • kgnw1kgnw1 Posts: 94
    IT IS RUDE TO TYPE IN ALL CAPS AND IT'S HARD TO READ. Type in all lower case if you don't want to properly punctuate.
  • dustykdustyk Posts: 2,926
    Why do you assume that I've abused our Avalon? Actually, this car's been treated better than any we've owned in the past, and it's never been abused. No, we drive it quite sedately and that's just one more thing that bother's me.

    Another thing is the GM parts that Toyota uses. We now have a radiator leak. GM. And the wheels have corroded so bad that we've had to replace one because it wouldn't hold air. GM.

    A '99 at 64,000 miles. And don't tell me that we've got the only Avalon that's had transmission problems, because I know better!
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