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Toyota Sienna Maintenance and Repair (2003 earlier)

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  • Here's been my experience with squealing brakes on my 2000 Sienna. I complained to my dealer, who confirmed that it was a problem that Toyota was looking into. I sent emails to Toyota via their website complaining about the problem. I got a call from my dealer early last month stating that Toyota had new redesigned brake drums that would fix the problem. They installed at no cost, but said that it wasn't a recall. I suggest going through your dealer and also complaining directly to Toyota, reminding them that having that brake problem is harming their reputation. In my case, it seems to have fixed the problem for now, but it's too early to say for sure.
  • deepandeepan Posts: 342
    you can reduce frost on the inside windows when parked by leaving the window open a bit. Leaving it open brings a new set of problems!!!re-circ should never be used during winter months. If it fogs up during driving turn on the A/C (temp turned to heat ofcourse!!). It will remove the humidity.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Posts: 3,581
    Arbitration can result in a number of things. The arbiter can say that you didn't allow Toyota enough attempts to make it right. He can say Toyota can't make it right and they need to buy back your van.
  • mayerofrf,

    I would appreciate a pic of those magnets installed.

    aclarke3@aol.com
  • If you have been given the official Toyota treatment/replacement could you post the part number for the new drums? My parts department had not heard of the replacement and said that if we had a part number they would order. Please keep us posted on the "sounds of silence."
  • If I'm reading my invoice right, the part number is (2 42431-08012). The wording on the invoice said: "Replaced brake drums with Toyota redesigned brake drums". Hope this helps.
  • Will let all know if it works. Which dealer & city did the work? Also - did they have some sort of bulletin? Thanks and sorry for all of the follow-on questions.
  • ok ready take off the weights keep the same drums don't replace any parts i can fix your sienna brake noise.

    1.remove rear brake shoes
    2.locate the contact points on the backing plate
    (where the shoe hits the backing plate)
    3.see how it is checkred grind it down till smooth and lube use nissan gold break grease between the plate and shoe
    4.sand sharp edges of shoes a little
    5.reassemble rear brakes
    6.machine rear drums
    7.install rear drums
    8.adjust brakes
    9.road test
  • The dealer is Germain in Columbus, Ohio. I don't know about a bulletin, but I've been complaining to them about the brake noise for over a year.
  • We also have had our van in a number of times. Will be interested in your experiences with the new drums. FYI the old series drums - the squealers - ended in 08011, as opposed to 08012 that you received. Please keep us posted.
  • Thank you for responding. Actually just yesterday I got a letter from NCDS (the people who are handling the arbitration) with a reponse from Toyota in it. It says "Toyota has redesigned the rear drums for the brake squeal noise. We would like to install the new, redesigned drums." They said that if I'm willing to do this then to contact my dealer and they would make arrangements for the replacement. Like you said it's too early to tell if it really works. My concern is the problem will go away and then six months later the squeal will come back. Then my warranty will be up and I'm scared that I will have no more options. So I'm undecided as of now. But like everyone else is saying please keep us posted.
  • THERE ARE NO NEW DRUMS OR SHOES OR BACKING PLATES TO FIX THIS PROBLEM.THIS IS THE FIX BELOW.HAVE THEM PREFORM THIS AND THE NOISE WILL GO AWAY. NOT TO MANEY DEALERS KNOW THIS FIX AND IT IS NOT A RELEASED FIX DUE TO THE FACT IT IS NOT A SAFETY ITEM. PLEASE HAVE THEM DO THIS.YOU WILL THANK ME LATER.

    1.remove rear brake shoes
    2.locate the contact points on the backing plate
    (where the shoe hits the backing plate)
    3.see how it is checkred grind it down till smooth and lube use nissan gold break grease between the plate and shoe
    4.sand sharp edges of shoes a little
    5.reassemble rear brakes
    6.machine rear drums
    7.install rear drums
    8.adjust brakes
    9.road test
  • So you're calling the grind job an "unoffical" fix. But on your second post to anna15 you're saying to have the dealer do the work. Is there a Technical Service Bulletin tied to this yet? If not, how will this affect warranty? Just curious....I just have concerns over losing any warranty over something like this.
  • YES TOYOTA HAS NO OFFICAL POSTION ON THIS FIX.
    BUT IF YOUR DEALER CALLS TECH ASSIST OR THERE FACTORY FEILD SREVICE TECH NOT THE REP BUT THE TECH. THAY SHOULD KNOW ABOUT THIS. THE PROBLEM IS THEM DOING IT BECAUSE THAY KNOW IT IS A PROBLEM BUT NOT A SAFTEY PROBLEM IT EFFECTS EVERY VAN AND TAKES ABOUT 2 HOURS TO DO THATS A LOT OF MONEY. THE BS SLUDGE RECALL KILLED THEM ON $$$ PAYING FOR THE CUSTOMERS WHO NEGLECTED THERE VECHILES.

    IF THAY PRINT ANYTHING ABOUT THIS NOISE OR FIXING THE NOISE IT BECOMES A LEGAL PUBLIC DOCUMENT THEN THAY MUST DO SOMETHING. BUT IF THAY IGNORE IT IS NOT A SAFTEY ISSUE SO OH WELL.

    WHAT STATE ARE YOU FROM

    ANYWAY THIS IS THE FIX BRING IT TO YOUR DEALER TELL THEM WHAT TO DO IF THAY GIVE YOU A PROBLEM HAVE THEM CALL THERE FIELD REP OR TECH ASSIST TO VERIFY THE FIX GOOD LUCK
  • dustykdustyk Posts: 2,926
    >>>THE BS SLUDGE RECALL KILLED THEM ON $$$ PAYING FOR THE CUSTOMERS WHO NEGLECTED THERE VECHILES.<<

    Let me tell you something. Our Avalon has been meticously maintained by both our dealer and myself. I have always changed oil at least every 3000 miles, and yet we had the sludge problem.

    It's strange to hear that the sludge problem almost bankrupt the almost perfect, most reliable car manufacturer on the planet (at least how some Toyota owners feel brag).

    Besides the power windows that work when they want, the sway bar links that need replacing every 18K, the rotors that warp on misty nights, the transmission that shifts like a Honda Accord and been apart twice, the ABS that is the worst in the business, the moldings that have fallen off, the rust on the trunk lid, the heater core that failed, the water leak at the windshield, and the dozen or so rattles, our Avalon has been a perfect car!!

    Dusty
  • jasdmwjasdmw Posts: 118
    I noticed recently that the 2 struts supporting the rear liftgate on my '01 are rusting. No effect on operation yet, but rust is eating away at the metal on the very bottom of the 2 struts. Anyone else see this? Is it an issue? Has a strut leaked? Any info is appreciated.
  • deepandeepan Posts: 342
    i have noticed it too along with some rust on the inside mechanism (one attached to the body )of the sliding doors. I spray some lubricant.
  • I NEVER SAID THE BS SLUDGE RECALL BANKRUPT TOYOTA I JUST SAID IT COST THEM A LOT OF MONEY. WOW YOU SEEM REALY UNHAPPEY WITH YOUR TOYOTA I AM SUPRISED YOU DIDN'T TRY TO GET IT BOUGHT BACK. LIKE YOU SAID
     (Let me tell you something. Our Avalon has been meticously maintained by both our dealer and myself. I have always changed oil at least every 3000 miles, and yet we had the sludge problem)
       AND I AM SURE YOU HAVE EVERY INVOICE FOR THOSE TIMES WHEN YOU (DID IT YOUR SELF)

    AS FAR AS THE TRANS I USED TO WORK FOR HONDA NOT EVEN CLOSE PAL. THE ONLY THING THAY DO THE SAME IS TURN THE WHEELS OTHER THAN THAT COMPLETLY DIFFERENT
       IF YOUR TRANS SHIFTS LIKE A HONDA IT IS BECAUSE THE ECU IS TRYING TO LEARN YOUR ABUSIVE PATTERN

    THE BRAKES I WILL GIVE YOU THAY ARE NOT MADE TO HANDLE CUSTOMER ABUSE AVALON SHOULD HAVE TUNDRA BRAKES

    WHY DID YOU RESPOND TO ME AGINE

    DO YOU HAVE A SIENNA??? DO YOU KNOW THE REAR BREAK SQUEAL FIX???

    WELL I DO AND I JUST WANTED TO HELP THESE PEOPLE OUT
  • kgnw1kgnw1 Posts: 94
    IT IS RUDE TO TYPE IN ALL CAPS AND IT'S HARD TO READ. Type in all lower case if you don't want to properly punctuate.
  • dustykdustyk Posts: 2,926
    Why do you assume that I've abused our Avalon? Actually, this car's been treated better than any we've owned in the past, and it's never been abused. No, we drive it quite sedately and that's just one more thing that bother's me.

    Another thing is the GM parts that Toyota uses. We now have a radiator leak. GM. And the wheels have corroded so bad that we've had to replace one because it wouldn't hold air. GM.

    A '99 at 64,000 miles. And don't tell me that we've got the only Avalon that's had transmission problems, because I know better!
  • I am suprised you didn't try to get your avalon bought back? It seems that you have so maney problems with it oh well.

    good luck getting them fixed

    To all the sienna owners out there I hope you preformed the fix i gave you for your rear brakes if you have any questions for me on it you can e-mail me.
  • Does anyone have a problem with their Sienna pulling left..no matter how many times they allign it???
  • Have thay crossed the front tires you could have a tire pull???
  • After some experimentation, I realized that my attempts to modify the storage pocket on the overhead console would not only be in vain, but also ridiculous. Since then, I have mounted the DVD player on the passenger headrest and it is wonderful.

    Now I need the storage pocket to replace the one I destroyed. I would be willing to buy the entire console is necessary.

    This is the overhead console with rear audio package. Beige/Sand/Shale color only, please. I only need the plastic parts and not the electronics.

    I'll check back after the holidays.

    Thanks.
  • I have a 97 Sienna XLE. I bought a power inverter so I could use my TV/VCR for long trips for the kids. It has worked for a couple of months now. Recently, there was no power coming from the inverter. As I flipped the switch to on, the light just flashed and there was no power to the TV. I checked the 15 amp fuse which was blown and replaced with another which blew again. I then replaced the fuse with a 30 amp fuse and it still blew. Does anyone have any suggestions? Why would it work before and not now? I don't know much about vehicles but am a quick study. PLEASE help. My kids are going to kill me, or vice versa if I can't get this fixed!

    Thanks!
  • p80p80 Posts: 2
    Hi All,

    The thumping noise that I noticed, from the 2nd day of driving my Sienna, was NOT due to a "flat spot" from parking too long. It was a defective (new) Dunlop tire that had a patch of rubber (the size of my hand and about 1 cm deep) that had somehow separated from the tire. The dealer replaced this tire with a new one at no charge.

    Although this is a Dunlop tire issue, I had expected better QUALITY control from Toyota. Also, if I had listened to the dealer, I would still be driving my Sienna and vainly hoping that after 2000km this "flat spot" would go away.

    This was the second problem that I have had with my Sienna so far. The first was a small patch of "fogged" up clearcoat paint on the hood that was caused by the glue of the transit film/plastic. They fixed this using a heat lamp.

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    #2705 of 2770 New 2004 Sienna with Tire Thumping Noise by p80 Nov 28, 2003 (3:07 pm)
    Hi All,

    I have just purchased a 2004 Sienna. On the second day of driving, a thumping noise and vibration have developed. This thumping is directly correlated with the speed of the vehicle. The dealer said it is probably because the steel belt on the front tire(s) (they are Dunlop SP4000 tires) have deformed from sitting too long in one position from storage. However, if this was the case, then why didn't I feel this thumping on the first day of driving? I didn't think the 2004 Sienna would have to be stored very long before being sold.

    Has anyone experienced this problem?
    Is the dealer correct?

    Thanks in advance.
  • I am sooo glad that there is a forum for car problems! We have a 2003 Sienna with 8500 miles on it. Be bought it in November of 2002 and since July (or before) it has been making a light and progressivly heavier squeal. I told the dealership about it during the August oil change and they said that there was nothing wrong with it, it was just dust on the brakes. I told them again at the oil change last week and made them write it in the work order. They said that they would wipe down the drums for me. It came back sounding even worse! We parked the sienna over the weekend and I called the dealership and toyota. The dealership got back in touch with me Thursday and said that toyota knows that there is a problem and that they are working on it. I told him that I wanted it in writing and he said that he couldn't do that because of liablitity issues and it was sufficient that I had contacted them about the problem. OK people, where do I go from here?
  • From what I here toyota is toying with a bulliten for sienna to come out late summer early fall. But then agine thay said this last year at the same meeting. Thay also never put anything about this on parer so far who knows.
  • Does anyone know if this is an issue in the 2004 year or is it too early to tell?

    I have a 2002 and the brake noise is horrible. If it has been resolved in the redesigned 2004, I will more than likely trade up. I too have been told that there are redesigned brake drums coming in January '04. We will see.
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