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2012 Hyundai Accent Replacement "Verna"?

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  • nucarshoprnucarshopr Posts: 13
    I'm definitely buying new.I take real good care of my vehicles so they last a LONG time to absorb all the added new car costs and depreciation as is the case with my 91 PU.It has some rust so she wont win any beauty contests but I've more than got my moneys worth.It was a leftover with the extra cab,6 cyl and though I didn't want the auto tran but at 15k it was a good deal.That works out to 750 a year and she aint done yet :) .
  • lightfootfllightfootfl Posts: 442
    edited July 2011
    Phill1, is there a Hyundai dealer in KW, or where is the closest (good) one?
    I am presently in the panhandle, but thinking......hmmm.
    van
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    Sorry Bubba, There is (no) Hyundai Dealership in the Florida Keys including Key West. You`ll have to drive about 120 miles (north) to either Homestead, Florida City, or Kendall to find a Hyundai Dealership. Key West however, (does) have a fine stand alone Kia Dealership so if you want almost the identical vehicle with a Kia Badge instead of a Hyundai Badge, you`ll be ok. Before you permanently decide to relocate to KW, better spend a few weeks or a month down there cause its not for everyone. I`m getting ready to get out myself. High cost of living and way too many homeless. I`m heading for Naples/Bonita Springs area. Folks there are polite, civilized, well mannered, and the illegal influx of hundreds of thousands of Haitians have not found there way there yet. They are still filling up Miami-Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach County and beginning to travel south to Monroe County now too. Better practice up on Creole, forget about Spanish.
  • lightfootfllightfootfl Posts: 442
    Gottcha on all that, appreciated the input. Daughter lives in the keys now so I know some of that stuff.
    thanks again,
    van
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,710
    I saw one today. Stopped by my local Hyundai dealer to see if they had any Accent hatches yet (no--not until August or September they said). But they had a base GLS sedan out front, no options except mats, $13,300 MSRP. It was red, with two-tone back/tan interior--a nice-looking combination I think. And for that money it was jam-packed with features ;) including:

    * Six-speed manual transmission (shifter looked big and meaty, with a short throw)
    * "4x65" air conditioning with continuously variable airflow (i.e., roll-down windows and the airflow depends on your speed)
    * Handy place in the middle of the dash to place reminder post-it notes or your favorite photo (i.e., a black plastic cover over the hole where the audio system would normally be)
    * Tasteful plastic wheel covers that almost look like alloys (almost...)

    Seriously, it does have all the key safety equipment and the two-tone interior doesn't scream "low rent" (not after you pop an aftermarket radio into the dash, anyway).

    I also was a bit surprised at how good the black plastic mirrors and door handles looked on this car. It was a medium red, and the mirrors and even the door handles looked just fine to me, as they blended in with the black trim around the windows. Another advantage of unpainted mirrors is, if they accidentally get scuffed (which they invariably do at some point), it's easy to make them look good again with a little Armor-All. Now, on a white car, the black door handles would stand out like a sore thumb. But on a darker color such as red or blue or black or grey, not bad at all.

    Surprised that the hatches won't be here for a month or two, since others have reporting sightings at dealerships already.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,710
    I finally got to check out the new Accent hatch while at my local dealership for a (free) oil change on my 2004 Elantra GT. It was a grey SE with AT, mats, cargo mat. Overall a nice package: good-looking alloys, enough room in back for me to sit behind myself in some comfort (5'10"), very nice dash with piano black trim. However, I think Hyundai messed up in some small things that could affect the overall ownership experience:

    * While the interior is nicely trimmed overall, the armrests on the doors are HARD PLASTIC! No padding whatsoever. And this is a $17,500 car. Really needs a little padding to protect the elbows.
    * The cargo area is roomy, but there's a step-up at the back of the seats--like on the Versa, although not as high. I can see that being a pain when trying to slide big boxes and other long cargo in back.
    * The cargo floor is not flat. That's not uncommon these days, except Hyundai knows how to fix it: my 2004 Elantra has seat bottoms that fold forward to create a flat load floor when needed. (My 2010 Sentra has that feature too, fwiw.) It would add a few bucks and maybe a few pounds for the mechanism, but why not make cargo hauling as easy as possible in a hatchback?
    * There's no center armrest in back. Which is odd because the previous-gen Accent had one, at least the sedan does. Again, maybe a few bucks to add that, but this is a $17,500 car now, not a $13,000 car.
    * Vanity mirrors are not illuminated. OK for the base car, but this is a $17,500... ok, I already said that, didn't I.

    I'll have to drive the car (probably shoot for the GS stick) before I make a final judgement, but it's little things like that which would have me gravitating to something else for that much money.
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    backy, Glad to read about (your) favorable first impression of the new 2012 Hyundai Accent SE Hatchback, despite the considerable list of shortcomings that followed even though the vehicle tips over the $17.500. mark. Did you really thing that those desirable & missing features would have been included when Hyundai , that is (HMA) decided to also eliminate the emergency spare tire and jack from the truck and replaced it with a mini air-compressor and a $3.00 can of Tire Sealant instead to cut cost. As I posted earlier, since Canadian Hyundai`s have different trim level, options, and prices, they felt (compelled) to include the emergency spare tire and jack in their cars. Maybe Canadian law required it along with the Daytime Running Lights which the Accent (DID NOT) get while the Elantra and Sonata did. I few more pennies saved I guess. Launch date in Canada for the upcoming 2012 Kia Rio5 Hatchback is set for Sept 25, 2011.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,710
    I've had one flat tire in nearly 40 years of driving, and it was my own stupid fault for hitting an island in a parking lot. I'd have roadside assistance for 5 years from Hyundai, and the family's AAA membership after that if I do have a flat tire. So the lack of a spare isn't a deal breaker--I can always add one if I want.

    It's harder to redesign the rear seats and cargo area. I am wondering if the Rio5 will have the same problem, since I expect it will share the platform with the Accent hatch. Does the current Rio5 have a flat load floor? It's been nearly 6 years since I drove one, so I forgot.
  • nucarshoprnucarshopr Posts: 13
    A Ford dealer called yesterday to let me know they finally got a Fiesta sedan in I can drive.I'm heading there in a few minutes.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,710
    Wrong discussion.
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    backy, If you have gone 40 years without experiencing a flat tire from picking up a nail or screw, I would suggest you submit that feat to the Guinness Book of World Records! I don`t doubt you, but even driving (brand new) tires one can experience a flat tire without a major incident like blowing a tires sidewall on a curb or pot hole. Don`t loose that "lucky penny" you probably don`t even know you have in your pocket. I too have always had AAA as well as both Ford, Hyundai and Kia Roadside assistance, but please explain to me how they can change a (flat tire) when you don`t have a emergency tire to put on? Perhaps even the new 2012 Kia Rio5 will also eliminate the spare tire and jack to save a few dollars which again, although not a necessary deal breaker, would require me to immediately purchase an emergency tire & jack that would work if needed. What brand of Tires have you owned that gave you such good fortune? If your willing to part with that lucky penny or Rabbits Foot, I`d love to acquire it from you.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,695
    I agree with you about backy's good tire fortune, it's unbelievable. If I were to get started listing all of my flat tires throughout the years, Edmunds' bandwidth would suffer severely!

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,710
    I've had a nail in a tire. That hasn't prevented me from getting home or to a tire shop--a slow leak. I was speaking of the kind of tire problem that stops you cold and you have to fix it on the road. In other words--the kind of problem you'd need a spare tire for. So I guess I have been lucky that I've only had one, self-inflicted, incident like that.

    But as I've said before here, I would go out and buy a spare for a car that didn't have one, e.g. Elantra or Accent, or order the optional spare with a Cruze. It's just something I'm used to having.
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    I understand, but sometimes even with a slow leak and the advent of (tubeless tires) one can find their car flat to the tire rim either in their driveway or in the parking lot after going to the movies. Not all (slow) leaks give you the opportunity to get to an air pump or tire repair center to get air or a repair, (patch or plug). You Sir, at far as your experiences with not finding your vehicle with its tire flat to the ground have been very blessed, at least when it comes to tires. I myself would not leave a Dealership with my new vehicle without an emergency spare tire (donut) and jack. It would be secured (before) I took delivery of my new car, again, thats just me.
  • nucarshoprnucarshopr Posts: 13
    The Accent is looking better to me.I drove a Fiesta yesterday and as far as performance goes it's not even close.Axe has significantly better acceleration and feedback from the elec steering and brakes.The Fiesta is a really nice car but it just didn't do it for me.After all the glowing reviews I was a little disappointed.I'm still worried about it being all new but it did speak to me.
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    Since you replace your vehicles once every one or two decades, its makes good sense to make your selection carefully. I would think that the Hyundai/Kia 5 year 60K Bumper to Bumper Warranty and the "10 Year/100K" Drive Train Warranty which covers (both) engine & transmission would in itself be a huge deciding factor. If you need the vehicle now, do it. Hope you enjoy your new Accent. If you can hold off till the end of Sept. or early Oct. you might want to compare the 2012 Accent with the new 2012 Rio for both price and content. The warranty will be identical. Your fear of purchasing anything (new) like the Fiesta AND I might remind you, the ALL NEW 2012 Hyundai Accent, perhaps you should just wait a few more years and see how they hold up. I`m sure in upstate NY you can find a lot of cheap (winter beaters) to choose from and that can hold you over till Consumer Reports has enough Data to give the confidence that your making the right choice.
  • nucarshoprnucarshopr Posts: 13
    I haven't ruled anything out yet.My folks are looking for a new ride as well but for them it's an auto tran only.As such I think for them the Fiesta would be the best choice.It looks like if you want the Accent with the auto you can only get it with one of the packages and that bumps the price big time.I'll call the dealer and see whats what on that.
  • dirtbagdirtbag Posts: 57
    Just got my SE yesterday and put 100 miles on it. First impressions are good. I'm glad, living in the mountains, I didn't go with the lesser powered Fiesta, because the Accent is only adequate on the hills. The car seems solid and is quiet. A few parts are cheaply made, as might be expected in an economy car, but the stuff that counts seems very well made. My only real disappointment so far is the rock-hard arm rest on the door. Perhaps I'll post some more impressions, good or bad, later.
  • I think you made a good choice.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,710
    C/D highlighted the 2012 Accent in their 2012 new car issue (September). Overall they liked the car. They drove only the 6MT, and noted the shifter was smooth with short throws, but the clutch had little feel. They also noted the highway ride was comfy, but it leaned some on turns. They especially liked the interior (they had the high-end trim with piano-black accents).

    Personally I'll take a smooth ride over razor-sharp handling, if I have to choose. I drive over frost-heaved, pot-holed roads every day, and there's no mountain passes to carve in the Upper Midwest.
  • maxx4memaxx4me Posts: 1,340
    I just sat in a new Accent hatchback at the dealer. I was amazed at the driver's leg room for tall drivers. Unfortunately there is none for adult passengers in the back. I do hope that they sell like hot cakes just in case H Execs are using sales of hatchbacks as an indicator of whether to bring the I-40 to the US. That is the car I'm wishing for. Despite the 4 speed automatic, I would buy another H Elantra Touring over the new Accent given the enormous amount of room for all passengers, and the excellent visibility; a great car for new drivers.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,710
    You must have had the driver's seat pretty far back. When I adjusted the driver's seat for my 5'10" frame (32" inseam), I had adequate albeit not limo-like room behind me. Very roomy for a car in this class... much roomier in back than, say, the Fiesta. Of course, the Elantra Touring DOES have limo-like room in back. But it isn't rated 40 mpg on the highway like the Accent is. It's a size class above the Accent. But a great choice for someone who wants maximum rear leg room and cargo room in a small wagon, and doesn't need the best possible fuel economy.
  • maxx4memaxx4me Posts: 1,340
    edited August 2011
    yes, I wear 36 inch long pants. I was shocked that I could sit so comfortably in the driver's seat and not feel like I needed to jam my foot through the gas pedal. There was no way I could even sit down in the back. My knees were crammed into the seat and had to put them sideways. Moreover, the head room made me feel entombed in the back. That is why I love wagons so much: easy to get in/out of the back seat and normally have great leg room. I also noticed that there was an eco button on the left side of the steering wheel. I guess they offer the same type of thing Ford does, except Hyundai gives it to you for free. According to the salesman, H can't jack up the EPA ratings on the sticker, even though the eco button comes on every Accent. I say that because the model I was in did not even have a center console, only an arm rest, so I'm guessing it was a base model. Nice of Ford to charge many hundreds of dollars more for the same feature. :mad:
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,710
    You have a 36" inseam, and you were surprised that you could adjust the driver's seat for comfort but not also sit comfortably behind yourself... in a subcompact? Do you know ANY subcompacts where you can "sit behind yourself in comfort?" The only subcompact I can think of where you might have a chance of doing it is the Versa, as its interior is rated as a mid-sized car although length-wise it's a subcompact.
  • dirtbag is it the auto or man?Let us know about the mileage after you get it broken in some.
  • dirtbagdirtbag Posts: 57
    edited August 2011
    I got the automatic. First automatic I've ever had, in about 10 cars. Shifting is very smooth and hardly noticeable unless you stomp the pedal to accelerate quickly.

    Positives are always better than negatives and my impressions of the car are very positive! But, I'll mention just a few "gotchas."

    Agreed, the legroom in the back is lousy, but I think very few people are buying this car to seat four adults. I doubt I'll ever have more than two passengers in this car.

    Rear visibility isn't great, but is improved some by removing the center back headrest.

    The cruise control doesn't like steep grades and disengages unexpectedly when climbing steep hills. I contacted the dealer to say I think this is dangerous, suddenly losing power on the freeway, and was told it was completely normal. "Don't use cruise on steep grades" I was told.

    There are very few cubbyholes for storage. There's only the glove box, front door pockets, center console (SE only?) and under the "floor" in the back, where there should be a spare tire. Surely Hyundai could put a few pockets here and there (in the sides in the rear end, for instance.)

    I'm not a smoker but there isn't even an ashtray for storing coins or small bits of trash.

    These minor issues aside, I'd say I'm impressed with the overall quality of the car, the look and feel of the dash, the quiet ride, fun handling, and I hope to be impressed with gas mileage!
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    I`m really surprised that there has not been much of a (push-back) of Hyundai removing the Spare Emergency Tire & Jack leaving you a "dandy" extra storage area that now contains a $5.00 mini- air compressor and a $5.00 Can of Tire Sealant. Funny, in most other Markets (outside of USA) including Canada, they still include the tire and jack. Talk about cutting corners to save a few extra dollars at the expense of being potentially stranded in the event of a major tire failure. Maybe the US NHTSA should mandate that (all) vehicle manufacturers must include an emergency spare tire and jack as a safety requirement. Damn, I almost forgot that the Tea Party would object to that. That would be (more) Federal Government intervention. Better to cut the deficit by eliminating the agency (NHTSA) instead.
  • dirtbagdirtbag Posts: 57
    I agree, there should be a spare tire and jack. When I asked the dealer about it and bitched a little, I was told it's a fuel saving measure...one mile per gallon. I don't think I really believe that but it was said with a straight face.
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    What a tired "lame" excuse. Maybe if you did`nt haul a second passenger or a Golden Retriever or perhaps a bag of groceries you might save another "1 mpg". Maybe if you dropped a extra 20 pounds of one`s beer gut, you might gain another "1 mpg". When the tire eventually fails and won`t respond to the can of Tire Sealant a a few puffs of air from that (toy mini-air compressor) and you call for Hyundai Roadside Assistance or AAA and the Operator who takes the call or the Tow Truck Driver asks if you have a Emergency Spare Tire, just tell them, "nope" but the Good News is....I`m supposed to gain an extra "1 mpg". That will be some consolation as your vehicle gets Towed away when if you had a (spare tire) you could have driven away instead. You should have asked the Dealer why the vehicle had the cut-out in the Trunk for the Tire and Jack? Why? Because in Canada and other Countries outside the USA, they get an Emergency Spare Tire and Jack. I`m surprised he did`nt send you to the "Parts Department where they could have (ordered) you the missing Tire and Jack at a cost of..what you think, $100. or more retail? I`m probably guessing way too low! PS: If the Dealer or Salesperson gave you that "BS" with a (straight face), If his/her Lips were moving, they were Lying!
  • maxx4memaxx4me Posts: 1,340
    I simply refuse to give up my beer gut to save 1 mpg :P
    As for the tire and jack, the tools for my Elantra Touring are very lame. Don't even think about being on a surface other than pavement. Also, the lug wrench will barely budge my lug nuts even when they are torqued to proper tension. Moreover, the crank is pathetic. You get exhausted just trying to raise the tire an inch or two. While it is unthinkable that they did away with the tools and spare tire, the tools H are giving out are worthless. I went and bought a floor jack just to rotate the tires myself. I also had to use my heavy duty lug wrench (X) to get the nuts off. I'm hoping this same lame tool set doesn't come with the Sonata since i plan on the i40 being my next car.
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