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2012 Hyundai Accent Replacement "Verna"?

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  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    backy, I know that you would not purchase a vehicle with "Panoramic sunroof,leather, and those enormously expensive 18`` tires due to replacements costs, (at least I can agree on the Tires), but as far as the "Rear View Back Up Camera", sorry my friend, whether you like it or not the US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration has (mandated) that by Model Year 2015 or before, ALL passenger vehicles sold in the USA must be equipped with that devise. Guess they are concerned about all the Senior Citizens and Baby Boomers coming of age that will need the assistance so they won`t back up and run someone over. I`m sure once your use to it, you won`t be able to fathom how you were ever able to live without it. It won`t be an option, but you (will) be paying for it in the MSRP like AirBags and ABS Brakes.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,681
    edited July 2011
    No big deal. If it's standard, fine. But it will probably be a long time before I buy a car with that feature. After I get two cars in 2013 (at least one used), I won't be in the market again until 2016 unless something unplanned happens (like a car being totaled).

    These days I don't know how I lived without AC and power windows and power mirrors. But my first 3 cars didn't have any of those, and I didn't have power windows/mirrors until my 7th vehicle. Heck, the first car I drove didn't even have a radio, power steering, power brakes, or carpets. But it got me around.
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    I Hear you, Bro..... but you know, as we get older, most of us just want and expect more. It`s Human nature, I guess. Big difference always between "want & need", but once you get used to certain creature comforts, who wants to go back? It`s sort of like my feelings about "Life`s is too Short Too Drink Cheap Beer". That applies to almost everything. After having a "Burger" and hand cut French Fries at "Five Guy`s" is hard to get excited stopping at McDonald`s, right? Sure if your hungry and all you have is a couple of bucks in your pocket, its better then going hungry, but other then that....I don`t think so.
  • nucarshoprnucarshopr Posts: 13
    OK that worked out.I'll check around and see if any area dealers have or can get one in base form.
  • nucarshoprnucarshopr Posts: 13
    I'm just the opposite in some regards.I neither need or want power windows,mirrors or even power steering.I had a 78 Celica without these features and I loved it.I live in Northern NY.Here a good heater and cold weather starting is more important than AC.If I lived in an area where traffic was routine then I would definitely want good AC.But here traffic is a few deer or turkeys crossing the road so an open window and/or the fan is plenty good enough.
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    edited July 2011
    nucarshopr, All I can truly say, I`m Happy for You! I used to live in the (north country) "MA" before moving to South FL over 13 years ago. Oh, I so miss winter....LMAO. My brother actually still lives in upstate NY, in Webster outside of Rochester near Lake Ontario. Given a choice of living there or residing in the Monroe County Jail here in Key West, FL as a Trustee with a view of a Palm Tree outside my window rather then a (bare) tree standing next to a snow drift, I know what my choice would be. As they say, to each their own and different strokes for different folks. If you can`t locate one of those "limited edition" hard to find Base Model 2012 Hyundai Accents Sedans w/no options MSRP of $12,445 plus $760 destination charge = $13,205 let me know and I`ll search down here for you. You can buy a one way ticket for $99 on Jet Blue and drive your (Gem) back home. Good luck in your search. Don`t forget to stop at Kmart or WalMart and pick up some cheap rubber floor mats to protect the carpets of your new Car from the Snow and Road Salt next winter. And since you basically interested in a "good heater" and cold weather starting, perhaps you should consider buying a Canadian version 2012 Hyundai Accent. They come with Heated Seats, Heated Mirrors, Heavy Duty Battery & Alternator too, even in the cheaper models. With the Canadian Dollar and US Dollar being almost identical, I`d opt for the Canadian Model instead. Sure the Speedometer will have KPH prominent on the instrument cluster and MPH redundant in the inner circle but I`m sure you`d get used to that quickly.
  • nucarshoprnucarshopr Posts: 13
    I'm still very leery of buying an all new car.I'm leaning more and more towards the base Fiesta S/manual.Its new to but they have been in Europe a few years now so at least some of the new car bugs have been remedied.I'm still considering the Yaris as well.It was fun to drive and their rep for dependability is second to none.I never had a problem with the Celica and my 91 Toyota 4x4 PU is still going strong though it could use a good tuneup and front wheel bearings.Though the price I got on the Civic is good I've decided against it.With the money I save buying either instead of the Civic I can fix the truck and keep it for work on the property,getting through the nastier winter storms and such and still spend a little less than the Civic alone.
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    The Fiesta "S" Sedan might be a good choice for nothing other then pure transportation which appears is all that your looking for. As I`ve reported on this Thread, many times, much to "backys" displeasure, (LOL) I`ve had great results with my 2011 Fiesta over the past 12 months. No Problems and excellent fuel economy. Check out the back seat and see if it has room for a few pets, midgets, or a couple of bags of groceries. If it works for you, the only thing you will be giving up is the long Hyundai Bumper to Bumper Warranty. Ford is only 3 years/36K. You could always extend before it expires by purchasing the Ford ESP, (extended service plan) but at extra cost of course, which appears to be a "deal-breaker" for you. Happy car shopping and keep your cheeks tight when the Dealer`s Fee, hits!
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,681
    An advantage of going with the Yaris is you can get a slightly used one, maybe with a Toyota Certified warranty, and save some bucks.
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    As one, who`s family has been in the Car Business for generations, there are (two) kinds of Car Shoppers, usually. It is near impossible to convince a "new" car buyer to purchase a "used" car and its pretty much the same trying to convince a "used" car buyer to make the leap and buy "new". There is always the occasional exception to the rule, but it usually holds up. Most "frugal" Car buyers (want) a NEW Vehicle but (don`t) want to pay the premium in price and suffer the huge depreciation. You can`t have it both ways! New is new and Used is used. Since your obviously attempting to buy something (cheap), I`d suggest buying a late model Hyundai or Kia. True, you won`t get the 10 year 100K Drivetrain Warranty thats only valid for the original Buyer, but you (will) get the remainder of the Factory 5 year 60K Bumper to Bumper Warranty, just as if you bought the vehicle new. And, you can take comfort in knowing that even if your purchased the Car NEW, once the tires cross the Dealerships curb, guess what?, yup, Now, (you) are driving a Used Car anyway. Also, maybe you should consider changing your screen name from "nucarshopr" to either "usedcar$hopr" or "bargaincar$hopr", just saying.....Good Luck in your quest.
  • nucarshoprnucarshopr Posts: 13
    I'm definitely buying new.I take real good care of my vehicles so they last a LONG time to absorb all the added new car costs and depreciation as is the case with my 91 PU.It has some rust so she wont win any beauty contests but I've more than got my moneys worth.It was a leftover with the extra cab,6 cyl and though I didn't want the auto tran but at 15k it was a good deal.That works out to 750 a year and she aint done yet :) .
  • lightfootfllightfootfl Posts: 442
    edited July 2011
    Phill1, is there a Hyundai dealer in KW, or where is the closest (good) one?
    I am presently in the panhandle, but thinking......hmmm.
    van
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    Sorry Bubba, There is (no) Hyundai Dealership in the Florida Keys including Key West. You`ll have to drive about 120 miles (north) to either Homestead, Florida City, or Kendall to find a Hyundai Dealership. Key West however, (does) have a fine stand alone Kia Dealership so if you want almost the identical vehicle with a Kia Badge instead of a Hyundai Badge, you`ll be ok. Before you permanently decide to relocate to KW, better spend a few weeks or a month down there cause its not for everyone. I`m getting ready to get out myself. High cost of living and way too many homeless. I`m heading for Naples/Bonita Springs area. Folks there are polite, civilized, well mannered, and the illegal influx of hundreds of thousands of Haitians have not found there way there yet. They are still filling up Miami-Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach County and beginning to travel south to Monroe County now too. Better practice up on Creole, forget about Spanish.
  • lightfootfllightfootfl Posts: 442
    Gottcha on all that, appreciated the input. Daughter lives in the keys now so I know some of that stuff.
    thanks again,
    van
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,681
    I saw one today. Stopped by my local Hyundai dealer to see if they had any Accent hatches yet (no--not until August or September they said). But they had a base GLS sedan out front, no options except mats, $13,300 MSRP. It was red, with two-tone back/tan interior--a nice-looking combination I think. And for that money it was jam-packed with features ;) including:

    * Six-speed manual transmission (shifter looked big and meaty, with a short throw)
    * "4x65" air conditioning with continuously variable airflow (i.e., roll-down windows and the airflow depends on your speed)
    * Handy place in the middle of the dash to place reminder post-it notes or your favorite photo (i.e., a black plastic cover over the hole where the audio system would normally be)
    * Tasteful plastic wheel covers that almost look like alloys (almost...)

    Seriously, it does have all the key safety equipment and the two-tone interior doesn't scream "low rent" (not after you pop an aftermarket radio into the dash, anyway).

    I also was a bit surprised at how good the black plastic mirrors and door handles looked on this car. It was a medium red, and the mirrors and even the door handles looked just fine to me, as they blended in with the black trim around the windows. Another advantage of unpainted mirrors is, if they accidentally get scuffed (which they invariably do at some point), it's easy to make them look good again with a little Armor-All. Now, on a white car, the black door handles would stand out like a sore thumb. But on a darker color such as red or blue or black or grey, not bad at all.

    Surprised that the hatches won't be here for a month or two, since others have reporting sightings at dealerships already.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,681
    I finally got to check out the new Accent hatch while at my local dealership for a (free) oil change on my 2004 Elantra GT. It was a grey SE with AT, mats, cargo mat. Overall a nice package: good-looking alloys, enough room in back for me to sit behind myself in some comfort (5'10"), very nice dash with piano black trim. However, I think Hyundai messed up in some small things that could affect the overall ownership experience:

    * While the interior is nicely trimmed overall, the armrests on the doors are HARD PLASTIC! No padding whatsoever. And this is a $17,500 car. Really needs a little padding to protect the elbows.
    * The cargo area is roomy, but there's a step-up at the back of the seats--like on the Versa, although not as high. I can see that being a pain when trying to slide big boxes and other long cargo in back.
    * The cargo floor is not flat. That's not uncommon these days, except Hyundai knows how to fix it: my 2004 Elantra has seat bottoms that fold forward to create a flat load floor when needed. (My 2010 Sentra has that feature too, fwiw.) It would add a few bucks and maybe a few pounds for the mechanism, but why not make cargo hauling as easy as possible in a hatchback?
    * There's no center armrest in back. Which is odd because the previous-gen Accent had one, at least the sedan does. Again, maybe a few bucks to add that, but this is a $17,500 car now, not a $13,000 car.
    * Vanity mirrors are not illuminated. OK for the base car, but this is a $17,500... ok, I already said that, didn't I.

    I'll have to drive the car (probably shoot for the GS stick) before I make a final judgement, but it's little things like that which would have me gravitating to something else for that much money.
  • phill1phill1 Posts: 315
    backy, Glad to read about (your) favorable first impression of the new 2012 Hyundai Accent SE Hatchback, despite the considerable list of shortcomings that followed even though the vehicle tips over the $17.500. mark. Did you really thing that those desirable & missing features would have been included when Hyundai , that is (HMA) decided to also eliminate the emergency spare tire and jack from the truck and replaced it with a mini air-compressor and a $3.00 can of Tire Sealant instead to cut cost. As I posted earlier, since Canadian Hyundai`s have different trim level, options, and prices, they felt (compelled) to include the emergency spare tire and jack in their cars. Maybe Canadian law required it along with the Daytime Running Lights which the Accent (DID NOT) get while the Elantra and Sonata did. I few more pennies saved I guess. Launch date in Canada for the upcoming 2012 Kia Rio5 Hatchback is set for Sept 25, 2011.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,681
    I've had one flat tire in nearly 40 years of driving, and it was my own stupid fault for hitting an island in a parking lot. I'd have roadside assistance for 5 years from Hyundai, and the family's AAA membership after that if I do have a flat tire. So the lack of a spare isn't a deal breaker--I can always add one if I want.

    It's harder to redesign the rear seats and cargo area. I am wondering if the Rio5 will have the same problem, since I expect it will share the platform with the Accent hatch. Does the current Rio5 have a flat load floor? It's been nearly 6 years since I drove one, so I forgot.
  • nucarshoprnucarshopr Posts: 13
    A Ford dealer called yesterday to let me know they finally got a Fiesta sedan in I can drive.I'm heading there in a few minutes.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,681
    Wrong discussion.
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