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Actually my plan was to wait on purchasing the Accent and see a Rio5 comparison (ride and driving dynamics) but the Hyundai dealer made me an offer I couldn't refuse and it was exactly the color and model my wife wanted. I was surprised he was willing to negotiate because it was the first SE he received and it actually sat inconspicuously on the lot for a week. I know that it will be/is a hot seller but maybe people in my area don't know about it yet. All 7 of the 2012 Accents they received so far are gone now and they continue to just dribble in. Which begs the question, is it better to purchase a hot new model at introduction or wait until the supply builds up and the demand subsides? In most cases the latter approach results in a more favorable price but now with shifting tastes (more people are moving to small cars), a dropping greenback, increasing worldwide demand, and limited production, you may have a long wait and still end up paying more. The times they are a changing.
On the matter of the "drivability" differences between the 2012 Hyundai Accent and the upcoming 2012 Kia Rio, I don`t expect (any) significant changes since they share almost all of the same mechanical components. The claim I made of the new Accent being a "Bare Bones" decontented vehicle compared to the Rio is too long to list in its entirety. Although these options and features may not be of interest to (you or others) depending on the added price of the features, at least they are available for those that want them. LED Daytime Running Lights and LED Tail Lights, Power Moonroof, Adjustable Steering Wheel (all positions), Leather Interior, Navigation System, Idle/Stop/Go Technology, Exterior Mirror Directional Signal Indicators, Heated Mirrors,Steering Wheel, and Front Seat, (Like I need that here in SO FL) and a host of other features and options that are (all) N.A. on the 2012 Hyundai Accent regardless of what Model/Trim Level you choose. Curious that Hyundai did not offer the Rear View Camera Monitor as an option since it will be mandated as Standard Equipment in (all) US vehicles within the next 2 years. Anyway, enjoy your new ride, and I hope for you and your wife`s sake you don`t end up suffering from "Buyers Regret" once the 2012 Kia Rio5 is launched next month.
Have you checked the value of the US dollar today? Both it and the Euro dropped 5% against the Swiss franc. The Canadian dollar and South Korean wan are strong currencies so prices of their products relative to our dollar will inevitably rise. As a hedge, you can buy their currencies or better yet, if you believe in Hyundai market growth, you can invest in their stock. It is down about 20% recently from its peak but I am confident it will spring back and upward barring any catastrophe.
Dan Neil, one of my favorite automotive journalists, wrote an interesting article in Saturday's WSJ on the Accent and Hyundai. He's writes in a very engaging style and is usually right on. Here's the link in case you are interested:
link WSJ title
2012 Mazda3
http://www.kia.ca/rio/english/flash/index.html
How's that stop and go work ?Is it like a golf cart?
Thanks, Puffin :shades:
Idle Stop and Go (ISG) Description
Idle Stop and Go (ISG) function automatically switches off the engine when the car is at a standstill and starts it again as soon as the brake pedal is released. This not only reduces fuel consumption, it also lowers emissions. Idle Stop and Go (ISG) function also has a built-in sensitivity to driving safety and comfort.
The engine is not switched off if certain conditions relating to safety and comfort have not been fulfilled (for example, when the engine oil is still cold, when the battery is running low or when the outside temperature is below 3º C or 37F). It can be deactivated by pressing the ISG OFF switch on the crash pad lower panel.
Sample scenario:
vehicle moving
the transmission lever position is in D-range. The brake pedal is released
the engine is running (vehicle moving)
the driver brakes until the vehicle comes to a standstill
the transmission lever position is in D-range. The brake pedal is pressed
the engine stops. The symbol “AUTO STOP” lights up in the instrument cluster
the driver wants to continue the journey
the transmission lever position is in D-range. The brake pedal is released
the engine is running again. The symbol goes out.
Operation Condition for the ISG Function
Will function if these conditions are met
- ISG OFF Switch is off
- switch (seat/door/hood) closed
- lever position in D or N range
- brake pedal pressed or released
- vehicle speed after driving higher than 8kmph (5mph)
- a/c system operating correctly
- engine coolant temperature over 78º C (172.4º F)
- brake pressure not below 35kpa
- battery SOC over 77% and temperature in the range of 2-55ºC (35.6-131ºF)
- Steering wheel – operating angle below 180º
- Parking condition – slope up hill Won't function if:
- large steering angle when car is stopped
- low brake operating pressure
- turn on the a/c with max blower
- when battery condition is poor (low SOC)
- active defroster of front or rear glass
- unfasten driver's seat belt or open the door and hood
- on a steep slope
- with ISG system errors and other diagnosis
- ISG OFF switch is on
My Type S Acura didn't come with heated seats, but the Canadian Type S did as well as fogs. I "m next to Canada (Maine) Je suis Francais aussie. I'd have to see it and all I saw on the specs was a heated steering wheel. I don't just want heated seats, but multi level seats that warm your butt and back.
I don't know how to buy a Canadian car and with all the boarder problems ,you can't just walk across the bridge anymore and buy your medecines W/o a passport even if your cousin is a crossing worker.They check the Holy Water you bring back from St.Annes or Mount Royal.
I think VW Polo will be the best rinky dink car in the GTI version. :shades:
Americans want cars such as the Mini that has all the bells and whistles , Nav, leather, Moonroofs ,usb ,12v ports, but a Harmon K radio.
this and that and alot of tech. Right now Ford , Hyundai and the biggest little seller the Cruze are working 48 hour weeks to get them out.In other words Americans, are alot more destitute now than a few years ago. Small cars are here for good ,and so is $3.50 to $4.00 gallons.
Yup, America has to show me they can compete with the Japanese,and Germans. Hundai is coming along. I'd Say better than KIA
lousy timing belts). For all u do Phil this Guiness is for you. :shades:
PS: Hopefully sometime in late 2011 or early 2012, the U.S. will (finally) get the MercedesBenz B200 that Canada has had now for several years. They may once again scrap the idea since the US Dollar is falling against both the Euro and well as the Canadian Dollar which may make it unattractive to market here in the States due to its increasing price caused by currency fluctuations.
Also funny you mentioned lousy "timing belts", I have 70K on my 06` Kia Rio and it is still on its original. The new 1.6 ltr GDI engine in both the 2012 Accent & Rio now have a direct gear (diamond coated) timing assembly replacing the previous "timing belt".
Those usually need change-out at only 60,000 miles. Just mentionin'.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
Also, don't forget to turn off the Eco mode when testing. The car was a wimp with it on and I didn't get to try it much otherwise. I love the room and utility for the price. I am comparing it to the Fit. which needs a wake-up call with it's mpg currently.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
You would think it would be something relatively simple so that they can easily make a Canadian model in production that has to have this feature.
The LX with that package is the best value. If I had waited a year, I'd have ended up with that Rio5 (or maybe the refreshed Soul) as they are both more fun-to-drive than the Santa Fe. It's great that small vehicles have gotten so much better, and now up to 40 mpg in comfort and style.
Best of luck with the new car !