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2011 Hyundai Elantra

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  • Some new engine info on the upcoming Elantra...

    New engine for the new Elantra
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,628
    Cool. More powerful than the Beta II, with better FE. I expect it's a GDI like the 2.4L in the Sonata/Optima. Looks like a nice powerplant for the new Elantra.

    Now, if they could just drop the 2.0T into the Elantra SE...
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,897
    edited November 2010
    Now, if they could just drop the 2.0T into the Elantra SE...

    Yeah, that would be something. Probably could get somewhere around 26/36 mpg too. That would be a pretty amazing little car. I'm anxious to see the new Elantra at the auto show. I'm looking to buy a new car next year and right now the four vehicles that interest me the most are the new Optima, 2011 Ford Edge, 2012 Focus hatch and the 2012 Elantra. Quite a conglomeration I know but haven't decided if I can live without the hauling ability of a CUV or at least a hatch. I would miss the ease of throwing stuff in the back but the Optima turbo is really drawing me to it.

    I read somplace that Hyundai is thinking about a Sonata wagon. An Optima in that guise would be sweet too. I think as long as the manufacturers put "sport" in front of wagon they could sell wagons again. I believe the public has had their love affair with SUVs, then CUVs and I think they could be ready again for wagons as long as they can stay away from the term "stationwagon" or even just plain "wagon". If you look up the history of stationwagon it comes from the wagons with large rear storage areas for luggage that were used around train stations. Ergo....stationwagons. No wonder people people didn't want to be seen driving them. Perception of a livery driver. LOL.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,628
    Since the Santa Fe is based on the Sonata platform (now the "old" Sonata platform), I would be surprised if Hyundai brought a Sonata wagon to the US, given the lack of popularity for those. But you never know... anyway, if I want a Hyundai wagon, the Elantra Touring would be just the right size for me.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,897
    I'm pretty sure the article was about them offering it in Europe but hinted that a US version may be possible. I would tend to agree with you on the Santa Fe being all they would offer but they have done some pretty neat things of late.

    Actually, I forgot a car that I'm also very interested in and that's the new Forte 5door. Haven't seen anything on the Elantra redesign coming in a hatch touring model but I suppose it will come sooner or later. That would also be on the radar. I'm just not sure any of these compact hatchs will have the hauling ability I like but I'll definitely take a good hard look at them.
  • I just knew Hyundai wasn't going to put the same 1.6 in both the Accent and Elantra! That wouldn't have made any sense. The article doesn't mention if the 1.8 has GDI. Even if it doesn't, it packs more power then other base engines in the class while offering improved mileage over the old Beta motor.
  • A little more teaser info. Looks like it has a chance to debut before the end of the year!

    teaser image
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,897
    I think the new Focus will have a 2.0 DI engine and more HP (155) than the Elantra and is supposed to get around 40mpg hwy as well. It will also have a 6 speed dual clutch auto available.

    I think these two cars will be the hot compacts in the segment next year.
  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,346
    If more and more mfgrs go away from offering a truly manual, standard transmission, then when my time comes, (to knock off) I'm truly going to be sooo ready.

    Lately, it's getting that i feel a forehead vein start to rise a bit when I read about dual clutch this, and microprocessor-controlled, that.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,897
    Don't let your blood pressure get the best of you. The standard tranny for the Focus will still be a 5 speed stick and I'm sure the Elantra will offer one as well.
  • crkyolfrtcrkyolfrt Posts: 2,346
    good! :)

    but are you sure about the 5? I suspect they may go 6? But DI offers up impressive torque at low revs so the 6 isn't needed really to deliver good fuel economy.
    Often they use 6 speeds to cater to public ignorant pressure.
    "But honey, this one has a six-speed"... type of mentality.

    Although it isn't quite as simple as I am making the joke about it being, since (especially with autos) the extra speeds can optimize engine revs/speed you're doing especially in town.

    Highway differences less so...except that the mfgrs use lower final drive ratios in std trannies, (to help with wty claims, lugging induced) so the autos tend to do better on the highway due to nothing more than fewer rpms at the same speed.
  • Wow, with the tape on the car, the sleek roofline makes it look like a coupe! Very nice!
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  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,897
    The standard tranny is a 5 spd stick. The auto version is a 6spd dual clutch tranny. At least that's what I have read. Go ahead and Google 2012 Ford Focus specs and see what you get. I believe the Elantra gets the new 6 spd auto tranny but I'm not sure if the stick will be 5 or 6 speeds.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,897
    edited November 2010
    Here is a link to an article about the new Elantra which states all versions will achieve at least 40mpg plus a little more info on the drivetrain.

    http://www.autoblog.com/2010/11/12/entire-2012-hyundai-elantra-line-to-hit-40-mp- - g-on-highway/
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,628
    edited November 2010
    Besides the FE numbers, the other significant thing in that article is the model year: 2012. That indicates the new Elantra won't hit the U.S. until after Jan. 1. Yes other recent articles say "2011" and claim the car will debut before year's end. I guess we'll know for sure in a few days.
  • 29/40 mpg AND 148 hp?? This engine has to have direct injection because that blows away my 2010 Accent 1.6. Could it be that Hyundai has managed to completely eclipse the original fuel economy champ, Honda? It seems Honda has completely lost their way and Hyundai was only too happy to pick up where they left off. Based on this info, I would expect the 2012 Accent to reach 42-44 mpg. If it can achieve that, there really is no reason to buy hybrids like the Insight. All I gotta say is DOH!!! I missed all this new technology by mere months. Why couldn't the crook wait 5 months to steal my Integra??
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,628
    Used cars are selling at premium prices now, maybe you could sell your Accent and get a new Elantra or Accent in an few months. If it's like new and with 4 years of warranty left, you might not lose a lot on that deal if you do a private-party sell. However, I expect the deals on the new Accent and Elantra won't be quite as good as what can be had today on the Accent and Elantra. For example, a local dealer is advertising 2010 Elantra GLSes for $179/month lease, sign-and-drive (0 out of pocket).
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,897
    That's the question I guess. In todays autoblog.com and cars.com articles they both mention the 2011 Elantra and that it will be available this year. It would make sense to me to come out in Jan/Feb timeframe and call it a 2012, kind of like they did with the Sonata and get at least a year and a half out of it. Everything I read though recently says it will be in dealerships by the end of the year. Wouldn't that make it a short model run if they come out with the 2012s by late fall?
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