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Toyota RAV4 pre-2006



  • gumpgumpgumpgump Posts: 2
    Totalnet: I was choosing from CRV, X-trail and Rav4. They are all for display in an exhibition centre in Tianjin and will be replaced by the 04models in May(so I can get them very cheap). My friend further shortlisted for me to Xtrail and Rav but I still found it difficult to compare cuz there isn't Xtrail in the US. I guess u may know Xtrail(Nissan made and sold out US) since u were from HK. Both cars are luxury trim and the Rav has more factory made kit with it(for display) and is 14000 HKD more expensive than Xtrail.

    My heart tells me to go for the Rav since it looks really cool in blue and all the kits on. Still my head tells me to go for the Xtrail since it is larger/more powerful(2.5l) and pracical. Can you give me some suggestion please? I need to make a decision in two days. Thanks

    BTW, I live in Shanghai.
  • totalnettotalnet Posts: 67
    I really live in the US, but as I said in a message before that I just came back from Hong Kong. Nissan does not sell the Xtrail here in the US. Nissan only has the Xterra here, which is a totally different vehicle than the Xtrail.

    I can't say what your needs are. When I was doing my car shopping, the main reason I choose the RAV4 was the look and good price I got on it. There are lot more SUVs with more power and larger side than the RAV4 in the US. Having driven a 3L V6 and 4L V8 cars before the RAV4, I have not feel the lost of power as I would have expected. I end up saving alot on fuel cost. I feel the quality of both Toyota and Nissan are very good, having own 3 Toyota and 3 Nissan.

    I am asumming that you are going to keep it for a long time. You must feel good driving and not have second thought about your decision. Also, how are traffic in Shanghai? Having been in Hong Kong and Guangzhou, they some time can get pretty bad. But I can say the same thing for the San Francisco Bay Area.
  • lok888lok888 Posts: 1,749
    totalnet - Did he mention the redesign 2004 RAV4 due in May? Maybe for Japan or Asian countries only (even European). US always gets it a year late. I believe there could be a facelift for 2004. If Toyota redesign the model every 5 years, why they get a facelift on 2003 model instead of 2004? Well, beside the "S" package (2003 model) with raised hood and new grille.
  • gumpgumpgumpgump Posts: 2
    Thanks to totalnet. Still a hard call for me. I might flip a coin to decide it. Anyway I don't think I will go wrong with any of them.

    The 04 models of Japaness cars should arrive in China only in June, my friend told me. And there might not be too much changes for the compact SUVs, as far as the dealers know. And if it is only a facelift, I think the Rav is already cool enough.
  • totalnettotalnet Posts: 67
    If Toyota stick with the 7 years cycle like the first generation RAV4, it going to be a facelift. I think the first generation RAV4 had a facelift in the 4 year of it's life cycle. Since all RAV4 are made in Japan, the US will get pretty much the same RAV4. Of course I heard Toyota is thinking of moving the production of RAV4 for North America to Canada.
  • mckee4mckee4 Posts: 47
    My wife and I just purchased a 2003 RAV4 Spectra Mica Blue with Quick Order Pkg., moonroof, and extra stuff added by P.O.E. and dealer. We got
    a cash price of $20.5K. MSRP was $22.6K. We went
    trought Fleet Sales and effectively got invoice
    + $200.00 over.

    My wife had her heart set on a white Sport model which was listed in the dealer inventory but was actually not. We would've had to wait for another
    to come in or special order and wait for several
    more months. However, she was determined to get
    something and she liked the blue color anyway. All in all the Sport Package didn't make a big difference to her either.

    Toyota seems to like piling on a lot of extras
    at the Port of Entry and dealership. We wanted
    some of the extras but others we did't, so we negotiated discounts or no cost on stuff we did and didn't want. The dealership even threw-in
    window-tinting for free.

    The process, even with the fleet-sales, was too long compared with our last vehicle purchase. Something the dealership/Toyota should work on.

    The RAV4 is perfect for my wife because she wanted
    small(er) and high(er) without extra largesse in
    the vehicle. She enjoys driving it immensely
    and has a reasonably high seat position. She
    has bad arthritis and this was definitely a factor
    getting in and out of any vehicle. Out of all of
    small-utes we tested the RAV4 fit her best.
    She effectvely can slide in and out of the seat
    with no problem w/o stooping or bending too much.

    I've driven the RAV4 myself and was impressed
    with the overall quality and drivability. Wish
    it had another 40-50 HP though. It'd be a hoot
    to scoot around in then. My Ford Escape has
    201 HP and never feels winded, but I pay in less
    gas mileage too. The first fill-up on the RAV4
    averaged 24 MPG city with a little hwy. mileage.
    Not bad and I expect that may go up a little.
  • lok888lok888 Posts: 1,749
    totalnet - I think we had the last generation of RAV4 for only 5 years (from 97 to 00). And maybe 6 years for Japan when it's debut in Japan in 1996. Was it in 1995 in Japan? Anyway, is Toyota planning to stick with 7 years cycle? I can see what they did on the Sienna, 4Runner and Land Cruiser. On the other hand, they pretty much stick with 4 years cycle on Carmy and Corolla. We even see they debut their new year model 6 months earlier most auto markers, like Sienna, RX330 and current model of Corolla.

    mckee4 - Thanks for sharing this. My wife is planning to trade her Accord for RAV4. She loves the styling and fun to drive. We are not ready to buy yet because I recently bought a SUV. $$$ issue!! But the deals that I've got have been great with very good price and low APR. I think Toyota will put only 20 more power horsepower (16? hp) if they have plan to redesign it, just try to compete with CR-V.
  • totalnettotalnet Posts: 67

    Found out on a RAV4 site that the first gen RAV4 came out in 1994, so my first message about the model year was wrong. I think Toyota does 4 years ccyle on high volumn cars like Camry and Corolla. As much as I like the RAV4, it doesn't sell as much as those two models.
  • ravenousravenous Posts: 13
    Got 27, 30, and 31 MPG from Baton Rouge, LA to Dallas, TX. (2003 RAV 2WD Sport Package, purchased 12/31/02). No complaints there. But I must admit that seat positions/arm rests leave a lot to be desired on a trip of any length. Not something I really paid attention to on the test drive!
  • suvshopper4suvshopper4 Posts: 1,110
    I've done 10-hour trips in my '01 RAV.
    No comfort problems, even with my tricky back.

    I guess your comfort may vary.
  • taki89taki89 Posts: 1
    Can anyone tell me where I might get the drivers seat cover for the 2002 Rav4. I have called Toyota. They are no help as they contract out that work. They cannot/will not give me the subcontractor. They have no kits available for this model and do not expect any in the near future.I've been to auto upholsterers and auto accessory stores without success This is a leased vehicle....Does anyone know where I might get this item? Any help will be appreciated...Please don't tell me about duct
  • skipper53skipper53 Posts: 12
    Try this website. It appears that they have the seatcovers available...

    I have had good experience in dealing with them.
    Good luck!
  • ltd2ltd2 Posts: 14
    i am thinking to buy a 2003 RAV4, a little confused with the $1000 discount for option
    packages, is it already included in the
    Edmunds' MSRP and Invoice prices?

  • totalnettotalnet Posts: 67
    The discount is included in the MSRP listed by both Edmunds and Toyota. So with Toyota's price, it $800 off the invoice price. If the options are bought seperately. Which I think Edmunds has included for the invoice price.
  • ltd2ltd2 Posts: 14
    would anybody know when the next Toyota sales event will happen this year in Southern California

  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    they do 'em on all the major holidays, so it won't be any longer than Memorial Day...

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • robblesrobbles Posts: 4
    Hi everyone! I'm new to participating to the town hall, though have been reading it for some time. A great resource!
    We just purchased a used 2002 4WD base with Quick Order package, roof rack, mud flaps, and key less entry. Mileage: 16,500. Paid $17,900. I think we did well. Do you agree?
    We've been agonizing over getting one for over a year. We were going to go for a 2WD, but this one showed up and we pounced on it. Looked at Tributes, but were scared of reliability. Liked the CRV, but not the styling as much. We were loaned a new 2WD for a weekend, and that clinched it. The 4WD seems slightly less peppy and nimble, but it is not significant.
    Unfortunately, since it was detailed so well at the dealership where we bought it, I was not aware till a few days later that the previous owner was a smoker (buyer beware!). I've put in a couple of Yankee Candle Car Jars (hanging scent things), as well as using a spray called Febreze. I'm hoping the combination, along with a few more applications will do it. Any thoughts or suggestions?
  • autowormautoworm Posts: 1
    Certified vehicles are good! But I am kinda lacking confidence on a certified vehicle which had a serious accident before? Checked out a certified Toyota RAV4, but found out that it involved in a serious accident two year ago. Tell me that I am overconcerned.
  • totalnettotalnet Posts: 67
    When buying from any dealer, always ask for the Carfax report for the car you are looking at. Most dealers subscribe to Carfax anyway.
  • robblesrobbles Posts: 4

    I'm not sure which post you are referring to, but I did get the CarFax report on the 2002, and it checked out 100%. And most dealers will give you the info for free.
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