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Chevrolet Cruze

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  • those are EPA numbers. 24/36 for turbo and 26/36 for the base model with a stick. ECO numbers have not been released yet but I read once that we should expect around 27/40 for the ECO model.
  • I've been in two models. Interior is better than anything short of the golf. Its at least as good as the Sonata- I would say better in terms of feel and appearance. It actually looks more upscale in person than the Sonata interior. New Elantra will probably be nice but I dont understand why it would only take sales from Cruze. What about Civic and corolla? Both of those cars are lacking relative to the Cruze so I fail to see how the Chevy would lose the most from the presence of the Elantra.
  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,578
    edited September 2010
    It should have been implied that it meant the whole econocar group which includes the Corolla & Civic...thought everyone understood that. A new Civic will debut in 2012 also as I recall & that'll be a 1, 2 punch that'll be hard to beat. We'll just have to let the numbers speak for themselves won't we! I suspect the next generation Corolla will also be something outstanding, as this current generation didn't exactly hit a homerun.

    Personally think this segment will be the hotest one in the next couple of years with all the major players coming out with new models which only get better & better. So glad we're going to be looking during this time frame...yay!!

    The Sandman :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • I expect the Cruze to sell very well. For those who don't follow GM Inside News, there's an excellent thread on the Cruze's NVH (or lack thereof) running now:

    GM Inside News

    There is some strong competition on the horizon with the 2012 Ford Focus, Honda Civic and Hyundai Elantra, and VW Jetta arriving next year. It's a good thing Chevrolet has built a Lexus-like vault on wheels that the competitors cannot touch.
  • The cars with the most current marketshare have the most to lose from the increased competition. The current Elantra and Cobalt have never challenged the Corolla/Civic in terms of sales so I would say the Cruze and 2011 Elantra have a chance to gain serious share. The Focus already sells well but the new one should be even more successful at attracting potential Corolla/Civic owners. The civic will be changed for 2012 but spy shots indicated its an evolutionary redesign. Don't expect an all new Corolla for several years. Out of all the major players the Corolla is the farthest away from a complete redesign. Honda's recent redesigns have been modest in terms of increasing technology and mileage so I'm not expected the Civic to break any new ground which is good for Cruze. Besides, its going to be very difficult for any compact to match 40mpg within the next few years.
  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,578
    edited September 2010
    One man's opinion which I don't agree with. But that's what will make these next few years very interesting in this market. Just let me say that when I hear "Lexus-like vault on wheels" and "the others can' touch", I tend to totally dismiss those comments. Maybe you guys have a crystal ball or something but all I hear is "opinion" & nothing else. "Facts" guys, facts is what your arguments lack...plain & simple. Personally, I hope they are all home runs & sell tons, much better for folks like us who will be in the market.

    But for now, I'll reserve judgment and let you two "experts" spin things as much as possible. Seeing is believing, so I'll just sit & wait. One last thing, with this crystal ball you've both got, I've got some stock tips that y'all can check out for me before I plunk my $ down. You can always reach me here with your recommendations!

    The Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • Well, I brought 30ozs of gold 4 years old at $650/oz. :P Forget equities - it's a game for the big boys. Gold will hit $1500/oz by December 2011. An 18% gain from today's levels.

    Oh and the Cruze? Great little car and it will be very successful for GM.
  • Actually professional reviews have verified the "lexus like quiet" and numerous reviews claimed the car was clearly quieter and more refined than the Civic and Corolla. I'm not sure whose opinion you would truse since it seems that you have made up your mind that the Cruze can't possibly be superior to the Japanese compacts. It has more features, more torque, more airbags and a quieter ride. I'm not exactly sure what areas it falls behind in. Sorry, but "wait until the next gen Civic comes out" isnt an acceptable argument right now. The current civic is what the Cruze will compete with for another year and that's what counts until fall 2011.
  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,578
    edited September 2010
    I haven't made up my opinion on anything actually since I haven't test drove any of them. I just always base my opinion on personal experience not what the "so-called professional reviewers" say or based on what everyday folks say. Once I drive the cars, then I can make an informed decision...period. I actually like the exterior of the Cruze, it has a pretty muscular stance and with the wider tires filling out the wheel wells, it is a looker! But I need to wait till I drive it till I can make an informed decision.

    We'll test all the cars in the sub-compact & the econocar categories & then make our decision. So I can't speculate what I'll like & what I won't like. Go ahead & tell others "what counts & what doesn't"...what you say means nothing to me. I suggest you guys move on already...this is getting tedious & boring actually. Try to influence others in here...you're wasting your time with me!

    Time to move on now!!! Bye.

    The Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • The official EPA Fuel Economy numbers are now available.

    EPA

    The ECO numbers are not yet available. I thought it was interesting that after all the banter about the Cruze being "mid-size", the EPA lists it as a Compact.
  • That seems odd. I know the size rankings are based on volume and the cruze has almost as much interior volume as the Malibu which is a midsize according to the EPA. I believe the Cruze has around 94 cu ft of passenger volume. Its definitely on the upper end of the compact segment in terms of length, weight and interior space. The trunk is best in class.
  • It may get changed. The EPA lists the Cruze at 94 cu ft passenger volume and 16 cu ft trunk volume for 110 total! These numbers differ slightly from Chevrolet's which came in at 94.6 and 15.4 but the total is the same.

    Technically the Cruze squeaks into the mid-size class and yes, the trunk is huge for a car in this class.
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    This looks better than the sedan IMO. Don't keep it in Europe, wouldn't cost much to bring it here. If not, I'd probably go with new Focus or Forte hatch for my next car.
  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,578
    Mentioned this car to the wife at lunch a bit earlier & she screwed her face up. Just said that we need to test drive one seriously as it's going to be on the "short list" when we start looking. Dealer right across the street...a plus...same dealer is our Mazda guy...another plus. Actually like the dash layout...not as good as my Civic's but she's used to that kind like on her M3s. We're not Ford folks either but also will be putting the Fiesta on that list also. She basically goes by how it looks & drives & if she can see the front of the hood. If she can find 1 with this combination...it could be her next ride. Hopefully we'll have a choice. Let's hope the Cruze makes the list!

    The Sandman :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 13,585
    saw that in a magazine today (AW). Looks pretty good, but hard angle to really see it from.

    If they would have brought this in, it would have vaulted way up my short list!

    heck, go all the way and make it in a real wagon format (like the former Focus wagon) and I would really be interested!

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 13,585
    just used the Chevy site (not very good working one). To get a moonroof on an LT2, you are almost up to 23K. And that doesn't even seem to have bluetooth or a USB port yet!

    that could be a tough sell, since there is some serious competition at that price point. Even a Civic EX is a bunch cheaper (although without leather and a Power seat)

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • overbrookoverbrook Posts: 275
    edited September 2010
    LT2 does have BT and USB standard. This is shown right on the cruze section of the Chevy site. The Cruze isnt going to be the cheapest in the class, its a larger, more refined car for more money. Its more akin to the 3 or Jetta than the Civic or Corolla. Things have reversed because in the past people would buy American to spend less money and make compromises in the process. Now its the Honda that is cheaper and compromised.

    I got $22,245 for an LT2 with sunroof. I'm pretty sure a comparable civic lacks quite a few features found on such a cruze including Onstar, USB, leather, heated seats, remote start, 6 speed auto, 10 airbags, etc. You pay more to get more.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 13,585
    I came out with 22,700, but that included the convenience package (or some such) that had something important in it.

    That Chevy site was very clunky to use (on my PC at least). I based the USB/bluetooth comment on how they listed it as a feature on the LTZ, but not the LT2.

    I guess based on MSRP that is probably close to what a Mazda3 grand touring (with HID, leather, etc.) goes for. But, as with likely the cruze, most volume will be at the cheaper levels.

    At least the Cruze offers a power drivers seat. That is something I am not looking to give up, unless they go back to real 8 way manual adjustability! And mazda and Honda don't have it.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • well according to the chevy site BT and USB are standard on LT2 and LTZ. This is shown on the "build your own" page that shows the highlights of whats offered on each model. The LT2 is in the middle. I would think most Cruze's will be LT1s and LTS2s. The base car has a decent price but I doubt its really going to be the retail volume leader with the 1.8L engine. That's probably for fleet use primarily. As small cars get more high tech and efficient they are going to get more expensive. The new Jetta is priced very close to the Cruze and the SEL model starts at about $22k with a manual transmission.
  • dodgeman07dodgeman07 Posts: 573
    edited September 2010
    The LT2 Driver Convenience Package costs $475 and includes: auto-dimming inside rearview mirror, driver and front passenger illuminated vanity mirrors, covered visors, outside heated, power-adjustable, body-color, manual-folding mirrors and Rear Parking Assist.

    It's not something I would order but the heated mirrors are nice to have. The rear parking assist on a car this size is not needed and I don't like the looks of the "buttons" across the rear bumper.

    I'm looking for an LT1 with cruise & alloys at around $19,900 or an LT2 at $21,400.
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