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Chevrolet Cruze

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  • Who said I drive 90mph Now ?

    Many of the years going from Atl to Denver were during the 55mph max days, lots of the divided Hwy's from the MidWest to I-70 were down as low as 50 in the day.

    Just FYI
  • Does the Cruze 1.4L come with a Boost Gauge ?
  • I found a site where the Cruze is outfitted with a Diesel Engine, man oh man those folks seem to be having a real issue with fuel economy and the DPF cleaning cycle.

    You'll have to convert the Litres per Km to MPG to get an idea of how severe the problem is.

    http://www.chevroletcruzeforum.com/index.php?/forum/25-cruze-20l-diesel/

    DrVette
  • gparagpara Posts: 23
    No boost gauge, I added a combnation vacuum/pressure gauge used for testing usually to the 2011cruze so I could monitor the engine load/vacuum/ and watch the turbo boost. The gauge has "0" at the 12 o-clock position which is perfect. The car needs the gauge in order to hypermile with it , otherwise you are constantly in the turbo boost and there goes the economy but you have the power when called for.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,952
    edited December 2011
    Speaking of driving FAST, I go from Atlanta to Denver pretty often.
    It's like 1500 miles, more or less.

    If I drive "Breakneck Speeds" like 20 -40 over, I can do it in like 22 hrs.
    Driving 10-25 over, it takes 24 hrs~

    Is it worth it ?


    Nothing above was indicated to be in the past. You're the one that said "if I drive" which indicates to me present tense and would be different from "when I used to drive" for example. How was anyone supposed to know this was "in the day"? Most current interstate speed limits are 65-75. You never said you were talking about 30 years ago.
  • litesong2litesong2 Posts: 24
    edited December 2011
    From an older post by overbrook:
    The idea that you could get a car with a bigger backseat for just a few thousand more doesn't really matter to folks who WANT a small car.
    //////////////////////
    litesong wrote:
    I've always been a small car person. But with this surge of higher mpg ratings in bigger vehicles other than sub-compacts, I've been looking at the larger vehicles like Chevy Cruze, Elantra, Focus, etc. I want a vehicle I no longer have to apologize to passengers because 3 people are compressed into the backseat. One note no one talks about...... Chevy Cruze has fairly good interior rear seat shoulder room, but Elantra has about one inch MORE shoulder room, altho the Elantra exterior width is narrower than Cruze. Narrowness of exterior width is very important to small car drivers who are thinking about purchasing a larger vehicle. Additionally, Elantra turn radius is less than Cruze, altho Elantra has a more comfortable & longer wheel base than Cruze. That Elantra rear seat leg room is more than the Cruze also is a factor in favor of Elantra.
  • eliaselias Posts: 1,900
    edited December 2011
    almost at 10k with my LS/1.8L/M6. hypermiling never happened again except for that single three mile drive, so the realistic mpg is apparently 33.6 with leadfoot and daily stop&go commute. No roadtrips, no vacations, just work work work makin the donuts.
    I have found that tiny bit of torque available at high rpm and use it daily.

    Doc Vette i sure do like your style/facts/presentations especially relating the current diesel+adblue vs gas+ethanol structure and the arithmetic/power-mechanics/tax-structure/$ behind it. no apology necessary to me for length of posting or anything else. your points/questions are spot on!

    i still want to testdrive a diesel cruze! the car is so well balanced with the gas motor... how much more does the diesel drivetrain weigh compared to gas drivetrain, for both auto & stickshift. (probably there will be no stickshift diesel cruze? that would be tough to resist just for drivability fun, no matter the price of gas vs diesel . )
  • drvettedrvette Posts: 99
    edited December 2011
    Thanks for the kind words, you and I both separate the posting into paragraphs by hitting the enter button often, making reading much easier.

    For the Cruze Diesel to be attractive, it will have to get "super" economy to surpass the Gasoline Cruze's efficiency.

    Note the vast array of vehicles that get poor mpg for the size/weight
    i.e. Jetta Gasoline, Nissan Versa and too many others to name.
    The Focus is plagued with tranny probs on the "AT-6" and instrument cluster issues for some.

    IMHO, the Cruze is the thinking mans choice for a long-term transportation.

    Here's a link to one European Cruze Forum directly to the Diesel Page.
    http://www.chevroletcruzeforum.com/index.php?/forum/25-cruze-20l-diesel/

    My attempt to purchase a Cruze has been dismal and heartbreaking.
    I've contacted many dealers, researched all avenues of incentives and still find the OTD price to be @ MSRP w/TTT

    DrVette
  • eliaselias Posts: 1,900
    you are most welcome, Dr. Z06 !
    re cruze pricing, for the LS the difference between invoice and msrp is barely $700. i paid MSRP minus incentives/GMcard/etc. I suppose the car is so popular that # days they stay on the lot remains low - less than a month?
    if you are willing to wait long enough you'll find cashback cruze incentives some day, but it might be a while... and in the meantime there is lots of driving to do!
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,682
    For people who can live with the LS, I think there's big deals to be had. I regularly see ads for what I expect are stripped LSes for around $15k or even less. I expect those are "loss leader" ads and they may only have 1 or 2 cars available at that price, but it's worth a try. If you don't mind no cruise, no power mirrors, no automatic, and no turbo. Frankly I could go with the LS if it at least had power mirrors. Would really like cruise also but I could live w/o it.
  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,626
    This would be the only model we'd even consider now as we want the extra goodies and don't mind paying for them. We've decided to start keeping our vehicles longer, our Mazda3s will roll over to 100k within the month, a first for us! Can't wait to compare the Verano with the Cruze to see if the extra few thousands is really worth it. From looking at the brochure I got last week, the nicer leather and 18" rollingstock seem to be the bulk of the differences, but am thinking the ride quality will be superior. There has to be more than the "perceived better quality" increase to warrant the upcharge. But so far the Verano looks like a winner and the ability to buy American again is a good thing. We shall see! :)

    The Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,682
    The engine (and FE) on the Verano is much different than on the Cruze. Ride should be very nice on the Verano... and all the reviews I've read say that the interior is exceptional, if a little tight in back (but so is the Cruze).
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,952
    Try 180hp versus 138hp. Huge difference but less mpg. You've probably read the same stuff I have about the extreme quiteness(more sound deadening materials and thicker glass which also means more weight) and quality of materials and comfortable seats.

    With the popularity of the Cruze it may be that you will be able to get a loaded Verano for just a bit more than a loaded Cruze if the Verano stays under the radar so to speak. I think it's a very good looking and optioned car. Unless you drive a lot of miles the difference in MPG wouldn't be that great per year.
    Plus you get a 4yr bumper to bumper with the Buick. I've also found Buick service to be a much better experience in my area than Chevy but that may just be local.
  • They may "claim" a shortage for the Cruze, but it's in Full Production.
    Also, I've checked lots[in person] for 50-75mi.
    Even in small towns, they have 4-5 and the larger cities have a row in the front, side and one in the back.

    One dealer had 17 units in stock !

    The so-called incentives listing is pitiful.

    1 .USAA says as a son of a veteran I'm eligible, then say No.
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    2. College Discounts don't apply to the "12 Cruze link title
    3. Credit Union info is sketchy, salesman says it's valid, but he's talking, so he's Ly*** link title
    4. As a GM Supplier Employee, "GM" says I'm eligible, but the HR says no go
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    GM "Loyalty" discounts for the Cruze seem to be regional, in the NW and now have expired there.

    I'm gonna hold my money till things ease up, or buy some junk from some other company.
    I have a nasty e-mail word .doc telling the dealerships all about how I feel regarding the treatment of customers relating to their "appearance" [using a kind phrase if you will]
    and have held off firing it just yet.

    I was ready to drop the funds, but I freaking REFUSE to pay MSRP after TTT

    DrVette
  • drvettedrvette Posts: 99
    edited December 2011
    Consider the driving elements of some users.. If stop and go traffic into Atlanta takes from 1.5-3hrs of stop and go,, pull up 50' and stop again, imagine how long the pitiful little ECO clutch will last !

    Not to mention how aggravated some will get using 6 gears over and over and over and over for up to 100k-200k miles, in traffic!

    I've driven stick shift's since 1966, still have one I use[S-10] and love a stick.

    Dunno how I'd feel about a 6-grinder after a couple hundred thousand shifts.

    I wonder about the life of the synchronizer rings in those trannys too.
  • drvettedrvette Posts: 99
    edited December 2011
    I have a good pal at a Non-Chevrolet- GM Dealer that sells other imports..

    A call to inform him of the bad news about the pending Cruze purchase got some interesting commentary..

    I told him of my investigation of the models offered by his dealership [Japanese imports] and how I was not really impressed with them, even with tremendous savings offered..

    His comment was a muted "Chevrolet makes a good product"
    This told me that the imports, though Japanese, do not hold up as well as Chevy's in the long haul..

    His position is pretty high up, a manager, and can get me tremendous markdowns on the Rice Burners, he did NOT make any attempt to encourage me to purchase one, instead complementing the Cruze.


    Odd, yet truthful, in my opinion, now to get the Chevy dealers to discount the Cruze.

    Edit to add:
    Note to potential buyers of Korean vehicles, they are pretty, but be aware, these are NOT the quality of American or Japanese vehicles.
    100k 7yr bumper to bumper to warranty's do not cover everything, like rusted out gas tanks, bad calipers, etc..
    Only sensors and parts to maintain EPA emissions are covered, as many here have found out the hard way. .
  • fushigifushigi Posts: 1,232
    This told me that the imports, though Japanese, do not hold up as well as Chevy's in the long haul..

    To me it means that the import dealers consider modern Chevys to be competitive. Not necessarily superior. Basically they recognize the threat to their marketshare. That's a huge step forward from the days of the Cavalier, but doesn't mean GM stuff is actually better.

    As to the Korean vehicles, none that I know of come with a 100K/7yr bumper-to-bumper warranty. If you meant Hyundai, their warranty is explained in some detail at http://www.hyundaiusa.com/assurance/america-best-warranty.aspx.

    If you compare the fine details of Hyundai, Chevy, Toyota, etc. you'll find little variation in what's covered. Rust, for instance, is rust through in body panels and not structural components (which, as a potential safety issue would generally be covered via recall). Brakes other than sensors are considered wear items & are not generally covered under anyone's warranty beyond a brief break-in period that allows for defective parts to be fixed.
  • ab348ab348 Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CanadaPosts: 1,744
    Early-mid 2000s Hyundais have an epidemic of rusted out gas tanks. Why they never moved to plastic tanks back then I do not know. However those are not covered by warranty.

    2011 Buick Regal Turbo, 1968 Oldsmobile Cutlass S Holiday Coupe

  • gparagpara Posts: 23
    As to Cruze Quality, I purchased a 2011 cruze eco stick last May, I have run my own automotive specialty shop for 35 years and I am a member of thew SAE. The Cruze was the first car I have really been excited about in 20 years.
    It truly is a "World" class car,. I researched the car for months and even gave a presentation at a Chevy dealer on the airo and mechanical package they have. I am super critical of design and performance with economy in mind. Everything was in order tat I saw and was duely impressed with it. After driving these months, only 2 issues come to mind, neither quality problems.
    First gear is way too low, you only get 1/2 thru an intersection and have to [non-permissible content removed] and the gas tank fill is terrible, always shuts off at 9 gallons and you have to play with it another 10 minutes to get the stated used fuel amount off the DIC. I have yet to completely fill the tank to check the accuracy of the calculated value. Otherwise the car has been flawless. There is no way I would have spent that type of money for a car that I did not trust or did not have a good reputation already, remember sold off shore for some time before coming to the us. Many miles in testing and developement. I would put my Cruze up against any manufacturer as to quality, design and economy. I was impressed with the mileage and intended a 50mpg target for most of my trips, rural area, highway and it has done that so far and I drive 60 mph when I can. Most of the complaints I see are individuals who would nitpick anything they can, unrealistic expectation, no real problems that I have seen yet.
    I think the question has been answered, if you l the way it looks and drives buy the car and don't worry about past designs, this in NOT a Cavalier or Cobalt!!!!!
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,682
    Note to potential buyers of Korean vehicles, they are pretty, but be aware, these are NOT the quality of American or Japanese vehicles.

    This is really off topic for a discussion focused on the Cruze. But since you brought it up... what is the factual basis for your assertion? And have you owned any Korean cars, especially within the last 10 years or so, to allow you to make a good comparison of the quality of Korean vehicles compared to American and Japanese vehicles?

    If your opinion is based on the Chevy Aveo, a 10-year old design that was designed for one purpose, low price, that is not a good basis for a general comparison on relative quality.
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