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2010 Mitsubishi Outlander GT

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  • @Jonox = "If you check the 2010 Owner's Manual Pg. 3-168 you'll see that when you first turn the ignition to "ON" a system check screen appears for about 4 seconds, after which time, if there is no fault, the normal information screen is displayed."

    The problem is...I am not seeing any display after I turned the ignition "ON". So I really cant tell if its on or off
  • jonoxjonox Posts: 84
    The ACS is automatically activated when the ignition switch is turned to the "ON" position, see pg. 3-137 for more details.
  • UPDATE: Stupid JiffyLube used the wrong oil and coolant for my GT Outlander. Brought it to the dealer over the weekend and they have to flushed the oil and coolant. Never again will bring my Outlander to JiffyLube.
  • jonoxjonox Posts: 84
    You must be pretty unhappy with JiffyLube, but your post raises some interesting issues. I've had my oil changed by the local Mitsu shop without giving it a second thought so I'll need to find out what oil they are using.

    The engine oil recommendation for both your V 6 and my 4 cylinder is to use only ILSAC certified oil or if that is unavailable an API classification SM oil is acceptable providing it is SAE 5W-20. I'm wondering what JiffyLube used and what your Mitsu dealer replaced it with.

    In doing some research into the 4B12 engine which powers the Outi ES I've found that it is actually designed to run on 0W-20 Lo-viscosity oil to assist in getting a high power output and low fuel consumption.

    Another issue is the requirement for Mitsu vehicles operated in Canada to have oil and filter changed every three months. It has occurred to me that this is needlessly wasteful and expensive and might be extended by using a synthetic oil.
  • fushigifushigi Posts: 1,241
    http://www.mitsubishicars.com/MMNA/jsp/worldrecords/index.do

    "ONE DAY. TWO CUVS. FIVE GUINNESS WORLD RECORDS.

    To demonstrate Mitsubishi's All-Wheel Control technology we set out for some unforgiving terrain in Alberta, Canada, with our Outlander crossover family. We came home with a handful of official Guinness World Records.
    "

    300 m - The greatest distance by a vehicle in reverse on snow in 30 seconds - Outlander Sport
    56.2 m - The shortest braking distance by a vehicle on ice (30 mph to 0 mph) - Outlander Sport
    3 laps - The most vehicle figure-of-eights on ice in two minutes - Outlander
    1:11 min - The fastest vehicle slalom relay on ice (1/4 mile) - Outlander & Outlander Sport
    19:31 sec - The fastest driven square lap in a vehicle (gravel, 100 ft. x 100 ft.) - Outlander

    To me the most impressive are the figure 8, slalom, and the ice braking. The ice braking looks especially boring, :) , which is exactly how you'd want it to be. And the figure 8 & slalom show how the AWC system can benefit in everyday winter condition driving.

    (Cross-posting to relevant threads)
  • comem47comem47 Posts: 395
    I guess I could also make my own Guinness record for how far I could fling a nose bugger off a 20 foot ladder in sub zero weather if I'm the first to do it. As much as I'm a Mitsu fan it's rather lame to be the only player in setting a record.
  • fushigifushigi Posts: 1,241
    Every time I see a GWR attempt it's always just one group doing it. I've never seen record setting as a competition before so I'm not sure what your "lame" comment is about.

    Anyway, the bar has been set. If Subaru or any other manufacturer wants to beat it, they're welcome to try. And if they do beat it, Mitsu will have cause to better their cars so they can retake the honor. We all win as the cars get better.
  • comem47comem47 Posts: 395
    To me the word "record" implies one is the best. With no previous mark set, I have nothing to compare it to -to be impressed. The first person who makes an oversize pizza may technically have a record, but when somebody makes a 20 foot pizza bettering a previous 5 foot is one is when it means something and is worth calling a record. In essence the first person to do anything is a "gimme". You are really a record holder in my mind (and worth bragging about) when you move the mark. So while I don't expect any Guinness attempt to be an open competition I do expect a previous mark has been set or it's really meaningless. A competition would be a good way to get the ball rolling to establish "x" was clearly better than "y" and should be recognized as the record holder. So Mitsubishi can go on claiming the record, but the first question I would have is who did they beat or what was the previous mark?
  • fushigifushigi Posts: 1,241
    The previous mark was zero as no one had apparently made the attempts before. There's a first time for everything.

    (Actually, we don't know that these are first-time GWRs as there's no mention by Mitsu or by Guinness about prior record holders. I checked obvious categories like tallest person @ the GWR site and it doesn't mention prior record holders.)

    GWRs that don't impress me are ones that don't actually have real-world value/implications. Things like http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/search/Details/Largest-parade-of-Land-Rover-- /-Range-Rover-vehicles/59909.htm. Ditto tallest/shortest person stuff where the record has more to do with genetics than a conscious effort on behalf of the record holder.

    At least Mitsu came up with categories that are meaningful in the real world. While going a good distance backwards on snow isn't too useful, the other categories demonstrate features of their vehicles that I might actually use in winter driving or in emergency maneuvering.

    Anyway, Mitsu has established the baseline you desire. Who is up for breaking the record? If the feats weren't impressive, it'd now be easy to steal the potential marketing thunder & out-do them.
  • jonoxjonox Posts: 84
    GWR or not it's a great piece of marketing.
    Thanks for putting it up.
  • "Every time I see a GWR attempt it's always just one group doing it. I've never seen record setting as a competition before so I'm not sure what your "lame" comment is about.

    Anyway, the bar has been set. If Subaru or any other manufacturer wants to beat it, they're welcome to try. And if they do beat it, Mitsu will have cause to better their cars so they can retake the honor. We all win as the cars get better."

    Could not agree more Fushigi. Very well said :)
  • batman47batman47 Posts: 606
    I am now in Peru. I got my GT from the Peruvian Customs and at this weekend I am off to the Gocta waterfall in Chachapoyas. This implies crossing the Andes and driving down into the Peruvian jungle. Roads are 70% tarmac and 30% off tarmac. Total mileage (return) is about 800 miles North from Trujillo which is a sea level.

    When this car is not driven usually the battery gets flat after two months. I didn’t disconnect the battery because I was afraid of upsetting the standard electronic settings of the car. However, the car battery was completely flat and it took about 15 minutes to be recharged using the jump leads from the battery of another car. At the end the car regained its natural electronic settings. Next times I leave the GT stationary I will disconnect the battery.

    I will keep you informed about the responses of this car as I did in my travel to the South Pole last year.
  • comem47comem47 Posts: 395
    Batman. you should get a float charger for the battery. The charge is safe and very small (won't overcharge) and they cost very little I have 3 I use seasonally on riding mower and a summer only car and a snowmobile. http://www.harborfreight.com/automatic-battery-float-charger-42292.html
  • fushigifushigi Posts: 1,241
    Nice. I've got a friend with an old pickup truck he uses just a few times a year. I'll show that to him as I know he's always having battery issues & has to recharge before he can use the truck.
  • jonoxjonox Posts: 84
    Anyone running synthetic oil in the 4 cyl 4B12 Outlander ES motor?

    If so can you provide details?

    Many Thanks
  • jonoxjonox Posts: 84
    This is the response received from Mitsubishi Motors Canada to the question of Synthetic oil usage.

    "MMSCAN's position on the use of Synthetic oil is that we have not had enough significant research done on fully synthetic oil in our vehicles and for this reason we're unable to comment on modifying the interval or the use of this oil. Some oil manufacturer's may have their own warranty on their product's use and if the customer has a specific oil that he wants to use, he may want to research whether this is the fact."

    Comments anyone?
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,252
    Sounds like they are saying if you want to use synthetic, better to wait until the warranty runs out.

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  • fushigifushigi Posts: 1,241
    Which is what I did on my Galant. After my warranty expired I switched to synthetic oil & extended the oil change duration to near double.

    While under warranty I'll only use the oil specified in the owners manual.
  • batman47batman47 Posts: 606
    Outlander GT: 7-seats

    It appears that the 7-seats GT may be not offered for sale in the USA probably in the near future because of poor sales. The 7-seats GT appears to be sold only in the USA. Australia sale the GT with just 5-seats and the 7-seats is not even an option. Russia, Europe, China, Middle East, and Latin-America do not sale the 7-seats GT. It may happen that from 2012 the GT may be sold in the 5-seats version only. Could some members detail further in this point?

    Mitsubishi Motors offers the 7-seats (with the exception of the USA market) in not GT models. Bad/poor sales seems to be a factor to stop production, for example the KIA Borrego was taken out the USA market just because poor sales although the Borrego was a very capable SUV. However the Subaru Tribeca has very poor sale in the USA but the car is still being offered.
  • I just want to say anyone considering doing long commuting with the outlander GT not to buy it. I got mine 3 weeks ago and everyday regret the decision. I was trying to decide between the Outlander GT and a Terrain V6 SLE-2. I went with the Outlander because I thought it had better performance and features. With the short test drives you really don't get a feel for how uncomfortable a car could be for longer trips, and I thought both cars during the test drives were about equal in the cabin comfort department - but I was wrong. I have read mixed reviews on both vehicles in terms of seat comfort, suspension, and noise.

    However, I drive a lot I have already put in over 2,400 miles on it in 3 weeks. So here is my critique:

    -Yes it has much better handling than a lot of SUVs

    -Has ample acceleration and power - shifter paddles can be fun

    --Engine can be noisy at high revs - expected

    - The front seats seem comfortable at first, but if you sit in them for any length of time you realize the back support just isn't right and my lower back has started having minor aches now whenever I sit in it - It just doesn't support right. Also the seat cushions get flat fast. They do not seem to absorb any shock to suspension and travels right to you.
    - The armrest is too hard (cloth on top of hard plastic - no padding) and not in the right spot, it is too far back.
    -The little rings around the instrument cluster - rattle like no other on bumps (you can feel that they are not secured all the way around - i plan to just glue them in place (they feel snapped on)
    - Interior can scratch easily - but not as easy as the Edmunds staff makes it sound (takes more than my fingernails or regular normal usage folks).
    -The exhaust booms the interior when cruising at around 65 then you let off gas and the tach drops below 2000 (like downhill or coast) this subtle Thrum sound is very unpleasant - dealer said normal exhaust sound - meant to be sporty
    -Gas mileage has been as expected which is good

    -This car makes me want to just accelerate it hard every chance because I get so annoyed by driving it slow, at least when driving hard it is somewhat fun
    - The ride is way to overly stiff and freeway driving on average roads is annoyingly jostling. This car reminds me of the feeling of a jeep it just jostles you side to side and you feel a single bump 4 times it feels like, bigger bumps feel harsh. Now I am use to different suspensions - I have recently had (Mazda 3, Honda civic, Porsche 944, dodge caravan) and this suspension is the worst set up in terms of daily driving bump absorption - not sure why. You feel every little road imperfections. - Again the dealer drove with me and said this is how they feel (sporty and communicative) -

    - Cabin noise is stupid at freeway speeds - you hear every car beside you, you hear the engine noise, you hear road noise, you hear the tires thrumming on the pavement.

    - The stereo is not as great as everyone makes it out to be - the Rockford Fosgate system (i do not have nav screen so maybe there is better adjustments) - seems to miss a whole range of sounds and suppresses them to background - it is overly powered with synthesized bass sound. The sound I will admit is great for rap and R&B - but for rock, alternative, country or anything else - it just plain doesn't sound good to my ears. The bass isn't the nice hitting bass; it’s like the loud annoying bass that the low-rider next to you is bumping. Basically you hear the voices and the synthesized bass and some guitar---all the other nice sounds in a song that really pull it together aren't crisp. Anyone know a way to adjust sub amplifier? I have tried an endless amount of options on the stereo...but none give it a full crisp sound. (yes I tried the settings: Normal, Stage, Live, Hall - Normal, R&B, Rock, Country - Bass -6 to +6, Mid -6 to +6, Treb -6 to +6, Fader -11R to +11F) - and yes I have had cars with 10" subwoofer before

    - the Bluetooth is not good - Over half the time people cannot hear me even with full reception - and yes I have had in car Bluetooth’s before and know how to use them. When they do hear me they say it has that annoying tinny sound

    - After driving in the car even with the stereo low with all the noises, exhaust, etc. I feel like I just walked out of a medium loudness bar - not a very refreshing feeling.

    In the end I see the error in my ways I should have went for the car with the most comfortable and quietest cabin and smooth riding feeling for an SUV. I still have the Porsche for fun driving, but was hoping to get a compromise with something bigger that is still fun to drive. The outlander could have been this, but fails as it has all the annoying traits listed.

    I really wish I would have went with the Terrain for the same price - from what I see it has a quieter interior (double pane windows, noise cancellation) - a bit more forgiving ride - equal or better pioneer sound system - more seat adjustments. The only minuses is that it is a pig in the handling department and the V6 AWD systems eats gas (16 city, 22Fwy) - but I think I may be able to live with the 4cyl for better gas mileage. Also doesn't have as large of a storage area - but still good for what most people use it for. (Missing features (better lighting on outlander, automatic rain sensors on outlander, fold down tailgate) - but who cares about these ones really?) Also the outlander for the price came with a sunroof - the Terrain does have roof rails which the outlander doesn't - I would now rather have the Roof rails instead of sunroof as I never even open the sunroof anyways (I thought it would be fun - it isn't just annoying noise and sun beating on your head - making you feel tired after driving) - also you don't really see the sunroof area when driving as it is too far back)

    Anyway that is my rant on the Outlander
  • rcpaxrcpax Posts: 580
    what can I say? the grass is always greener on the other side. Maybe you need to buy a BMW, Porsche, or a Lexus so you feel refreshed everytime you drive.
  • batman47batman47 Posts: 606
    Many things you said about the GT are true. I have driven the GT on my journey to Patagonia (South Pole) and I am now touring the Andes in Peru. I have driven the GT usually on non-tarmac roads where noise (outside/inside) is not really relevant (in my case). The car with its front limited slip differential has excelled in snow, mud, and terrain roads at high speed. Maneuverability is great on short closed hair-pin bends turning down hill on chiseled mountain roads. I may say that the GT has saved my life when maneuvering wrongly because of unknown road shapes or sudden narrow roads turning downhill. The tyres for these types of roads I am using are Yokohama Geolander AT-S. They have an excellent grip but they are very noise indeed on motorways.

    Yes the GT is noisy. Bump noises are also magnified, and the body paint is crap. Also the 225/55R18 doesn’t help either. However I have diminished all these by doing the following: (1)-Increasing the 55 profile to 60. (2)- Also for the type of driving I do; a set of wheel and tyres 215/70R16 (Steel) is great. (3) Tire noise may be reduced by using tire grooves designed for summer seasons use.

    Back pain because of long journeys may be reduced by finding a proper seat driving setting. I may say sometimes I have driven for more than 8-hours and I have never experienced back discomfort (I am 5.6”).

    The GT has 2-small petrol tank underneath (rear left and right). The driver rear petrol tank is smashed (like an accordion) because of big stones hidden in mud layers on the road. However it is not broken which is a good overall car design.

    I have also noted that the use of premium petrol or better has very good effects on the GT car performance, i.e. better mileage and better acceleration.

    If you drive mainly on motorway (tarmac) at high speed and want less noise the GT may not be your overall best choice. However if the road noise is not a serious nuisance then the GT excels above any SUV for the price and technology.
  • noeffectxnoeffectx Posts: 32
    After 10months of talking to different dealers around my area, they all said "unfortunately they cant mount OEM rack on my CUV" coz mine was build ">month of May, there for, there is no factory fixtures(mountain points) on my room, I decided to go with 3rd party rack. As a snowboarder, surfboarder, and paddleboarder, I need the rack badly. The option my dealer gave me was, they can mount 3rd party rack, that looks like OEM, and they will have to drill holes on my roof, or go somewhere else. Its a no brainer, I dont want to drill holes on my roof :)
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  • fushigifushigi Posts: 1,241
    Looks good. I like that in the first photo you've got the sunroof popped up and there's no interference. It makes me think of a few questions:

    So this just clips into the top of the door frame?
    Do you have a manufacturer's link handy in case other folks (like potentially me) want to pursue one?
    How much added wind noise does the rack create?
    WHat's the load limit? IIRC the factory rack is a measly 75 pounds.
  • fushigifushigi Posts: 1,241
    I rolled 15,000 miles the other day. April 19 will also mark 500 days of ownership. So far the car remains a pleasure to drive, though there does seem to be a little hook to the left so I'll have the alignment checked the next time it sees the shop. It'll also be due for a tire rotation.

    Lifetime fuel economy average is 21.1MPG. With gas prices trending up so much I went from midgrade to premium a few tanks ago as the cost difference as a percentage of overall cost has shrunk to under 5% (premium has less of a "premium" cost as overall prices rise while the regular-midgrade-premium price difference remains stable). It looks like there's enough of an economy improvement in premium that the added cost pays for itself with better MPG but I need more tanks to bear that out for sure. My most expensive tank to date was just over $57 (13.9 gallons of premium). The most I've ever added in one fillup was 14.3 gallons; not bad for the 15.8 gallon tank. :blush:

    We're up to over 90 CDs on the hard drive and I keep a 4GB thumb drive permanently loaded with songs bought digitally.

    The nav maps are getting out of date and don't reflect a couple of semi-recent highway interchange adds (one local, one out of state that I encountered). I asked Mitsu about an update and they said one was coming shortly. I did not ask if it included a general firmware upgrade as well; i.e. if any other new features were planned. I'm guessing not.

    No recalls, no breakdowns, no unintended acceleration. Basically no drama.

    I've got a K&N air filter to install & will do so soon. I use them not for the supposed added economy & power but because they're simply cheaper over the vehicle's life than buying a new air filter every 15K.
  • noeffectxnoeffectx Posts: 32
    Fushigi -

    1) Yes, it clips & lock into the top door frame.

    2) You can go to http://www.thule.com/en/US/FitGuide.aspx#StartApp - I got the Rapid Traverse Foot Pack (480R) with Outlander 2010 GT fit kit, Thule part#1409 (sold separately) and Aero Load Bars (RB53)

    3) There is minimal to none wind noise w/ the Thule Aero Load Bars (model/part# RB53). The Aero Bars is the key equipment. The Regular load bar creates a lot of noise, although its $75 dollar less, per bar. When I said minimal to none, by test driving it from 35-80miles per hr, when the sun visor is open, I can hear little noise, if I raise the sunroof, I can hear medium noise, if the sunroof is totally open, i can hear a lot of noise. But if the sun visor/sunroof is close, I cant hear no noise even at the speed of 80miles per hour. Again, I really think the Aero Bars bar is the key equipment here and I think its worth paying $75 more per bar, just to avoid the noise.

    4) The maximum load limit for the Thule: Aero Bar (pair) is 165lbs. But not sure if the Outlander Roof frame can handle such load weight.
  • noeffectxnoeffectx Posts: 32
    Does the Outlander 2010 GT came with Hitch mount? I spotted a square-looking removal plastic on the back bumper but not sure if thats where the Hitch is, since I could not remove it with my finger nail, I'm thinking of getting Thule Hitch mount MTN Bike rack.

    Thanks
  • fushigifushigi Posts: 1,241
    I've got the towing kit on my Outlander. The hitch & wiring harness connector come out from under the bumper.

    I no longer see a link to post pictures in CarSpace (not sure if it's buried or gone). I can email you pics of what it looks like if you send me an email address.

    I'm not sure what that plastic cover on the lower right portion of the rear bumper is for but it isn't part of the kit.
  • toomanyfumestoomanyfumes S.E. Wisconsin Posts: 903
    That's not a cover to release the spare, is it? I know one vehicle I had had a crank down release for the spare hidden under a similar cover.
  • fushigifushigi Posts: 1,241
    No. The spare is a crank-down but the control is accessed by opening the split-fold tailgate. There's a small hatch panel there. There's a tool (can't remember if it's the tire iron or a small screwdriver-type device) that is used to crank the spare down.

    It does look to be more or less directly under that crank access hatch, so it could be related. I'll RTFM later if I get some free time to see if it's mentioned anywhere.
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