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2010 Mitsubishi Outlander GT

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  • fushigifushigi Posts: 1,239
    Well, the price was built in to the final price paid & I negotiated that v. pricing options individually.

    The dealer did the install.

    Pics have been sent. You'll notice a small bit of surface rust on the underside most likely due to the road salt used in winter. I'll be sanding that off & priming/re-painting it shortly.

    You may also note that the top of the kit has a metal plate. That can be used to step up & access the roof.

    The wiring harness connector is in the lower-right below the tubing.

    The only downside is the default ball connector is S-shaped and rises up some. So if you leave it installed it interferes with lowering the lower part of the tailgate. So I leave it out.

    BTW, inside the cargo area on the passenger side is the access hatch for the jack. There's extra space in there so I stowed a pair of gloves to use so I can keep clean if I ever have to change a tire. But there's so much room in there I also put in a self-retracting tow strap. I put the gloves on the strap's ends to keep them from clanking. ;)
  • toomanyfumestoomanyfumes S.E. Wisconsin Posts: 895
    Good idea with the tow strap and gloves. Just be careful with small items. When we took a trip I stashed some small items in there and they dropped down to the bottom of the quarter panel. Not fun retrieving them.
  • noeffectxnoeffectx Posts: 32
    edited June 2011
    My Thule Rack project is finally done. Here's how it looks like on my 2010 Outlander GT :)
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    2 bike rack and surfboard rack in the middle for spring/summer/fall. Winter is another story :D
  • toomanyfumestoomanyfumes S.E. Wisconsin Posts: 895
    Looks like a nice setup. :)
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Posts: 5,707
    nice job and nice look! Enjoy!

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • fushigifushigi Posts: 1,239
    I agree that it looks great, though I admit when the time comes I'll probably take the easy way out & get a hitch-mounted bike rack.
  • jonoxjonox Posts: 84
    Saw a poster for Synthetic Oil at my Mitsu dealership today:

    "Oil Specs Have Changed"
    Recommended Engine Oil 0W-20 Synthetic Oil
    Provides the following benefits:
    - Improved Fuel Economy
    - Reduced Engine Wear and Enhanced Engine Life
    - Easier Start Up in Cold Weather
    - Reduced Vehicle Emissions

    I understand from my service guy that Mitsubishi Synthetic is now being supplied as original equipment from the factory for 2011 models and that oil change intervals have been increased. Both Mitsubishi Synthetic and Mobil 1 were shown on the poster.

    Anyone have more info on this?
  • fushigifushigi Posts: 1,239
    Well, to my knowledge oil specs for existing engines (pre-2011) haven't changed. If the dealer wants to use a different grade of oil in your '10, require them to provide a TSB documenting the change in spec. Using the wrong oil could harm the engine.

    As to using synthetic v. regular oil, with a change interval of 7500 miles/6 months on regular oil I see no need for the added expense of synthetic. Maybe once the car gets high mileage like 100K+ but not before. And if I do go synthetic I'll stick with the weight specified in the manual. That's basically what I did on the Galant I had before I got my Outlander.

    WRT using lighter weight oil, that does seem to be the trend among manufacturers nowadays.
  • jonoxjonox Posts: 84
    I can't speak to 3.0 liter 6B31 motor but the 2.4 liter 4B12 which came into production in 2005 was designed to use 0W-20 low-viscosity oil. Guess their current pronouncements under their "Oil Specs Have Changed" notice is the commercial side of the business catching up with technical developments. I notice other manufacturers, GM in particular, have made similar moves in 2011.

    I'm still wrestling with Mitsubishi Canada to get them to "officially"give some leeway on their 3 month oil change interval "recommendation" for all Canadian owners!
  • batman47batman47 Posts: 606
    Engine oil grade is fundamentally chosen according to the climate where the car will stay the majority of its life. For example if you buy an Outlander to be driven in North Africa the recommended oil may be 20W-40 or 30W-50. If you are using your Outlander in Alaska so you may use 5W-20 or 0W-20.

    Synthetic oil doesn’t have any type of waxes. If the car is parked for a very long time these waxes precipitate and prevent proper engine lubrication. I use synthetic oil because I may increase the time for an oil change, i.e. 12,500 miles instead of 7,500 miles.
  • batman47batman47 Posts: 606
    Hi,
    We expect that the Outlander GT for year 2012 will offer the following:

    1. Roof rail
    2. One-touch folding 2nd row seats
    3. HID headlamp with washers and auto-levelling
    4. Adaptive front lighting system (AFS)
    5. Rear parking sensors

    The above features are already offered in Europe.
  • batman47batman47 Posts: 606
    It appears that Outlander GT’s (as well as all the Outlander’s post 2007- ) have 2-threaded holes on each side of the roof (4-threaded holes in total).

    In Japan a roof rack kit is sold that is screwed into these holes and provides a configuration to install a roof box. The part number of this accessory is MZ532260 ($300 in Japan). If you do a Google search using this part number there are some interesting comments (of course in Japanese) about this accessory plus photos of the final arrangement of the kit. The maximum weight is around 50 kg (230 pounds) including weight of the kit. With the kit installed the maximum weight for your roof stuff may be 35 kg. It is a neat configuration and without those ugly clamps attached to each of the 4-doors. Thule Rapid Traverse Foot kit is bulky and plain. Furthermore the clamps themselves exercise a lot of pressure at the up edges of the doors which eventually will pull out the body paint on the areas that are touched.

    I know that my Mitsubishi dealer has brought some stuff from Japan using a Mitsubishi office in LA. I understand if there are a lot of queries and some orders from GT owners in the US Mitsubishi America may decide to stockpile it in the USA
  • batman47batman47 Posts: 606
    edited July 2011
    Sorry conversion wrong: 50 kg = 110 pounds!!

    Furthermore, please take note that this type of roof rack kit are not suitable for unsealed roads (i.e. a rough road that has no hard surface). The whole setting may just fly away.
  • batman47batman47 Posts: 606
    More about Roof Rack

    It will be a fact that the 2012 Outlander GT will come from factory with a “Plug-in Roof Carrier” which is just a foot base that rest on top of fix points on the vehicle. This type of roof carrier is not what we are normally used to see. The assembly will not have a “roof rail rack/carrier”. You may run your finger along the inboard edge of the rubber/soft plastic molding and locate the fixed points (2-points by vehicle side). Each foot base will screw on a hook (shaped like an extended “S”) that will enter the fixed point. One edge of the hook will have a bolt that will be fixed to the foot base and the other end will hook inside the fixed point. By squeezing/screwing this bolt the base foot will rest firmly on the top of the car roof. This type of assemblage departs from the Roof rack that uses door clamp as the Thule 480R Rapid Traverse Foot Pack installed by a forum member.

    You may order accessory “Roof Rack Crossbar” ($260) that will be offered with the 2012 GT that will fit on the Plug-in Roof Carrier that will come with the vehicle imported from Japan by MMNA.

    The trouble I see with this way of solving the problem of a lack of a “Roof Rail Rack” in the GT is that the Plug-in Roof Carrier will carry the “Thule” badge because it appears that MMNA has done a deal with Thule to implement this roof rack in the USA. Disassembling this Plug-in Roof Carrier is relatively easy; which is perhaps the main reason for MMNA to install this style of roof rack instead of the normal one. Those snow, ice and camping lovers may be happy with this arrangement for outdoor activities/events because the Roof Carrier can be taken off when the assemblage is not in use and by doing that improving the performance of the GT and perhaps saving gas expenses.

    Another problem I see with a Thule-in Plug Carrier is that the concept of aerodynamic of the assemblage and it may be sorted better by other rack firms rather than Thule. A few other manufacturers of Roof Carriers have a “Wind Tunnel” where roof crossbars are tested, It has been demonstrated that, for example, ‘Flush Crossbar” option is aerodynamically better (Less noise) than a “Through” Crossbar option. Equally a squared crossbar is noisier than a rounded crossbar.

    Manufacturer of roof racks and crossbar usually sell Roof Rack Kit that incorporates the Foot Pack + the Crossbar. Prices vary ($300-$400).
  • batman47batman47 Posts: 606
    Next 2012 Outlander GT

    Edmunds has presented the Features & Spec of the 2012 Outlander GT. From there it can be ascertained that the 2012 GT will be almost the same as the 2010 / 2011 GT with few exceptions. There are few extra packages and accessories on offer. Also the XLS Outlander name has been replaced by GT (2WD).

    The 2012 GT will come from factory with a Roof Carrier (Thule) and according to Edmunds also a Self-Levelling headlight (my 2010 GT has one but it is manual). Equally the 2012 GT accessories include Roof Rack Cross Bar, LED illumination package, exterior package (i.e. larger rear spoiler & GT side sill Graphics); accessory rear park assist sensors, interior packages (i.e. aluminum knob & brake grip).

    I still think the Outlander GT is good value for money. In summary the 2012 Outlander GT incorporates a roof rail, accessory roof rack cross bar, and accessory rear park assist sensors.

    Members should query about the Roof Carrier (Thule) (i.e. steel or aluminum) as well as shape of Cross Bar (i.e. squared or rounded, steal or aluminum). Apparently the Roof Carrier may easily be disassembled but this must be confirmed.
  • noeffectxnoeffectx Posts: 32
    edited August 2011
    actually the early US 2010 GT's doesnt have rack fixed kit/Plug-in Roof holes that you can screw the rack into. The late 2010 and 2011 GT do have it though for Thule racks.
  • I was really thinking of getting the hitch mount at the beginning. But after all the research it will cost me more $$$ to get the hitch installed, plus the hitch mounted bike racks w/ bike locking feature cost more than the roof rack version, in the end I will be spending $600 more than my roof rack w/ 2 bike mounts.
  • fushigifushigi Posts: 1,239
    Hitch costs aside, a 3 or 4 bike rack is under $100: http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng.do?search_query=bike+rack&ic=48_0&Find=F- ind&search_constraint=0 . I wouldn't pay extra for a locking feature as long as there's a loop I can thread a cable through.

    IMO the convenience of the hitch mount outweighs any extra costs over a roof rack. No worries about using parking garages/drive-thrus, easier to load/unload. My wife would simply not be able to use a roof rack; she lacks the strength & height to heft a bike that high.

    I'd think that mounting the bikes on the rear would be better for fuel economy as well since roof racks are going to really mess up the car's Cd.
  • toomanyfumestoomanyfumes S.E. Wisconsin Posts: 895
    Always nice to have a hitch, too. Purchase a large item or moving, you can borrow or rent a trailer.
  • fushigifushigi Posts: 1,239
    That's why I got the Mitsu hitch when I bought mine. I didn't have plans to use it but wanted one just in case.

    I also picked up a tow strap last year so if I have to pull anyone out of a snowbank in winter I have a convenient place to hook it up withough having to crawl under the car. I keep the strap & a pair of gloves stowed in the cargo area on the right-hand side in the access hatch that stores the jack.
  • batman47batman47 Posts: 606
    Tow Hitch

    Although it is not immediately apparent a town hitch takes away about 2 inches of the Outlander ground clearance (i.e. 8.5 inches without a town hitch). A clearance of 6.5 inches degrades the SUV/Crossover capability of the Outlander out tarmac.
  • Hi, where did you find out about the build month regarding the roof not having any mounting points? And how would you know which 2010 GT does or does not have it? I ask this coz I was thinking of getting the yakima rack system which would enable me to install it flush on the rail points. It would look like these http://www.yakima.com/shop/baserack/control-tower. I can't recall which thread/website Ive read it but they say that under the black trim that covers the supposedly rails on the GT that there are fixed mounting points.

    Btw, your outie looks great! Hows the sunroof deflector like? I have the window in-channel deflectors and it has been very usefull.

    -jay">
  • I believed GT's sold from Jan - May 2010 does not have mounting points. Its actually pretty easy to know if your GT does have mounting points, just check your roof railings, there should be Four removable mounting 'square' plastic covers. If your GT doesnt have this plastic covers, then your out of luck, just like me :)
  • Good point.
  • batman47batman47 Posts: 606
    Roof Rack Kit

    As it was said in this forum the Outlander 2010 (late) and Outlander 2011 have accommodation for the installation of a roof rack kit accessory (MZ314455). This kit includes the base + the crossbar (aerobar) at a price of $300.00. This kit has the Mitsubishi badge/logo and it was sold for Outlanders (e.g. GT) with roof accommodation (i.e. sockets).

    What in reality is the meaning of “Plug-In Thule Roof Carrier Accommodation”? Does it mean just the sockets on the roof of the car or the sockets + a Thule base that plugs into these sockets + roof rack crossbar? According to the information I have, it appears that the term “Plug-in Thule Roof Carrier Accommodation” encompasses just the roof rack base made by Thule which will plug-in into the sockets that come with the vehicle from Japan. The assemblage doesn’t come with a roof rack crossbar; therefore MNNA offers an accessory “Accessory Roof Rack Cross Bar” at a price of $250.

    Why MMNA decided to use the services of Thule is not clear at the moment because there is a Mitsubishi Roof Rack Kit on offer, and indeed it was utilized to provide the GT with a roof rack + crossbar configuration. The plausible reason could be that MMNA is being paid to advertise the Thule brand. The roof rack crossbar will also be Thule.

    In summary the Mitsubishi Roof Rack Kit (MZ314455) at a price of $300 will be replaced by a Thule base + a Thule roof rack kit cross bar aero (Option at a price $250). It appears that every GT will come with a Thule roof rack base. If you want to have roof rack base + crossbar + Mitsubishi badge you will need to disassemble the Thule roof rack base from the 2012 GT (if it comes with one) and replaced it by the Mitsubishi kit (MZ314455) at a price of $300.

    The 2011 Mitsubishi Outlander Accessory Catalogue announces the following:
    Roof Rack Kit-aerobar (For vehicles with factory roof rails) MZ314015
    Roof Rack Kit-square bar (For vehicles with factory roof rails) MZ314013
    Roof Rack Kit (For vehicles with roof accommodation, XLS and GT) MZ314455
  • batman47batman47 Posts: 606
    I sent the following email to a Mitsubishi dealer without reply so far:

    I have received an email from your dealership where he indicates that part# MZ314455 ($300) can be accommodated into the 2012 Outlander GT roof (i.e. accommodation sockets (from factory) + roof rack base (Thule or Mitsubishi) + roof rack crossbar (Thule or Mitsubishi)). The part# MZ314455 encompasses the roof rack base (Mitsubishi) + roof rack crossbar (Mitsubishi).

    The Outlander 2012 GT as well as the late 2011 GT has plug roof carrier accommodation. What is the meaning of “Plug-in Thule roof carrier accommodation”? Does it mean that the 2012 GT will have just roof sockets where a Thule roof carrier product may be installed? Or will the 2012 GT come from factory with a Thule roof carrier base already installed (without roof rack cross bar)?

    The confusion arises because the 2012 GT has an accessory “Accessory Roof Rack Cross Bar” at a price of $250 which may imply that the 2012 GT will come with a roof rack base made by Thule.

    I will much appreciate it if you could clarify my uncertainty.
  • The problem with Hitch Rack 'IN MY CASE/SITUATION' it cannot accomodate my other toys...IE 11 footer SUP (stand up paddle) board, 5'10, 6,0 & 6'11 surfboards, 153cm & 155cm snowboards, and my wife's skis.

    So having a roof rack makes more sense in my case. I can rack mountain bikes, sup board, surfboards, snowboards, and skis.

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    Here's a day that I went surfing and mountain biking on same day. As you can see the only way Hitch rack will for me is... I will have both...roof rack for boards and hitch rack for bikes.
  • fushigifushigi Posts: 1,239
    .. or a small trailer you can tow bikes, surfboards, and everything else with.

    Anyway, I'm not saying roof racks are bad. They're certainly the best option for skis. But in general racks are an alternative that doesn't work well for my family.
  • fushigifushigi Posts: 1,239
    Although it is not immediately apparent a town hitch takes away about 2 inches of the Outlander ground clearance (i.e. 8.5 inches without a town hitch).

    My hitch doesn't. I just measured with my GT on level concrete (my garage) and below the tube is 11" of clearance & below the side beam on the hitch is 10.5". It comes just slightly below the spare tire.

    That said, it does extend out the rear of the vehicle a few inches so if you're rock crawling or doing other serious off-roading the rear overhang is a few inches longer.

    I have the OEM hitch, part # MZ313809. You can see it some here: http://mitsupartsworld.com/145-mitsubishi-outlander-trailer-hitch-towing-kit.htm- l (If you use the curvy ball mount then the lower tailgate won't open fully.)
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