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Honda Odyssey: Problems & Solutions:(1995-2004 Models)

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  • tc2568tc2568 Posts: 1
    I have a 1999 Deep Blue Velvet Pearl Odyssey and am about to trade it in for a new one. The dealer inspected the car and has suggested that the van was in an accident and the left side re-painted. (It wasn't.) He pointed out that the paint on the rear quarter panel had an "orange peel" effect, i.e.; the paint looks bumpy like an orange peel. I noticed this when I took delivery of the van three years ago but accepted it anyway. (really wasn't a big deal or noticable unless you looked at a certain angle and in certain light). Has anyone else ever noticed or heard of the orange peel effect on an Odyssey paint job?
  • Do your self a huge favor, take your van to a detail shop and have the inside and outside cleaned and polished. My neighbor and myself both just bought 2002 ex's and sold our 2000 ex vans in the auto trader and sold them for as much as we paid for them after driving them a year and a half and putting about 18k miles on them. we could have sold ten more if we had them, people as settling for used because they can't or won't wait for a 2002.
  • I've considered selling my 2000 and getting the 2002. However my 2000 is paid off and I didn't want to start payments again. Is the 2002 really that much nicer?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I think if you look hard enough, you'll find some orange peel on just about any non-luxury car. Sounds like he was really stretching.

    Try selling to CarMax, or privately. You'll get the most money selling privately, no doubt.

    -juice
  • I have a 99 Odyssey EX with 49K miles. Besides the squealing brakes when backing up, compared to others on this board, the van has been relatively problem free--it's probably waiting for the 7/100 warranty to expire. The Traction Control System (TCS) and the Check Engine Light (CEL) both came on at the same time after a refill over the holidays. (The gas cap was clicked 3 times.)

    I was armed with all the other info on this board about this problem when I went to the dealer--thank you to everyone for discussing the problem and the solution. After checking the van, the dealer acknowledged the problem and ordered the part(s). The invoice states "Will have to order pipe kit for intake."

    Here's what's interesting--the "kit" is on backorder and the dealer estimated that it could be 1 to 2 months before it comes in. The dealer indicated that these were in hot demand since Honda sent out the notice a few months ago. Until the part comes in, I was told that there would be no harm done by driving it with the TCS and CEL on.

    This feels like deja vu all over again for me. I had a 86 Accord LX-i Hatchback that had the Program Fuel Injection light come on at 60K in 1990. The dealer couldn't fix it and said the last resort would be to replace the computer with no guarantee the problem would be fixed. The problem was associated with emission controls also and I was told that driving it with the PR-FI light on wouldn't damage it. I didn't replace the computer. I drove the car until it had 186K miles (with no problems) when it was traded in for the Odyssey.

    With driving it for 1-2 months waiting for the part, I wonder what the failure rate is on the bulbs for the TCS and CEL . . . probably 7.0001 years or 100,001 miles. :-)
  • mschafermschafer Posts: 317
    This "pipe kit" must be something new; although I wonder if the dealer is mistaking this and ordering the first (and ineffective) crossover pipe fix for the problem. The second fix was to remove the intake manifold and clean out the EGR port by twisting a drill bit through it by hand. I did this a little while ago (it took about 45 minutes to do), and was really taken aback by how much c**p was in and clogging the port. If your dealer's pipe kit doesn't fix the problem, tell him that he needs to go to option 2.

    The second fix works, and I have't had the first flicker of either of those lights since.

    BTW, it is for sure that driving with the lights on will not hurt anything - except, perhaps, the bulbs for the lights. *:o))
  • Not 100% positive about this, but I believe that since Honda has acknowledged a problem with the EGR port and has extended the warranty to 8/80K, they have come up with fix #3.

    I gather that fix #3 involves removing the intake manifold and cleaning the port and then "relining" it with a stainless steel insert. The stainless apparently resists the build up of carbon more effectively if not completely.

    I'd guess that if you have this problem again and take it back to Honda, you'll end up with a stainless liner in the port.

    Like I said, not 100% sure, but I have gleaned this from other recent postings here and at Odyclub.
  • Hi all --

    Just got my 2002 EX, and love it! However, one thing that I noticed was some wind noise / whistling sound at speeds greater than 65 - but only on certain occasions.

    Has anyone experienced this, and if so, what did you do about it?

    Thanks - Bob
  • smp4smp4 Posts: 2
    Aftr owing 200 Odyssey for 2 months, had to have battery replaced. Its now a year and a half later. Same thing. Had to have my battery jumped twice. By the way it took Honda Care over 1 hourt to reply. The second time, i called both AAA and Honda. AAA came within 15 minutes.

    An hor and a half later, AFTER I called to cancel them, Honda Care showed up.
    Honda is claiming that it is battery problem.

    As I was driving to Dealer, heard strange electrical"pops" coming overr radio speakers. Then all warning lights came on. Maint Reqd, brake lights, ABS.

    Is this unusual? 2 batteries in less than 24,000 miles and less than 2 years?

    Anybody else have battery/ electrical problems with 2000 Odyssey?
  • Just a quick question after skimming through the last 200 or so messages:

    2000 LX w/34K miles

    At idle the engine makes a pronounced dieseling sound. I'm pretty sure it's coming from the belt/pulley area. It's definitely not a performance issue, just an 'odd' sound. Based on the fact that we are nearing the end of the warranty period I had thought about taking the van in to be checked for this. I have this bad feeling that the dealer will either consider this a "wear item" or "normal feature" as they have done with other nit-picky things I've brought to their attention. Has anyone else experienced this? - I saw one message about the pulley and idler arm replacement but not much else...

    It's definitely not a noise that you would notice in the cabin, just one that you hear standing outside of the van.

    As a side note we were without the van from before xmas to yesterday due to an incident with a deer (the deer lost). We had a Chevy Venture rental during that time. Granted the Venture was really stripped down but it felt so unrefined and truck-like compared to the Ody. We were very happy to be back in the Ody again!

    -keith
    Warrenton, VA
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    I think that Honda owners are a different breed and expect more from their vehicles and like a good share of these posts the least little noise and they are here wondering if it's normal or something wrong.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    The new Civic is only rated "average" by CR, so perhaps it's not just the Ody. In the past even first year models were rated "much better than average".

    -juice
  • donselldonsell Posts: 27
    That is an interesting comment. I think everyone spends good money on their vehicles and expects them to perform well.

    I wonder if owners who purchase a Honda or Toyota because of their quality reputation may not be as meticulous about maintenance? I've owned vehicles from each of the Big 3 US manufacturers and beyond problems with Chrysler's air conditioning I've had few problems, but I'm pretty much a stickler for maintenance.
  • revmrbrevmrb Posts: 1
    Three months ago we bought a '02 Odyssey EX with power doors. We get a lot of rattling noise from the back doors during in-city driving. We've yet to get back to the dealer to get it checked.

    Has anyone else experienced this problem? Any suggestions?
  • Keith, I'm the one that posted the problem with both the idler pulley and the idler arm issue. Mine was similiar in that you could hear it best while standing next to the engine/hood while the van was idling. Mine got so bad though I could also hear it while in the cabin. However the sound was a definite sqeaking or squealing noise not really what I would say is a dieseling noise. It took replacing both parts over 2 different repairs but the noise has been completely gone now for about 3 months.
  • Thanks Frank,

    My noise is definitely not a squeak. I'll check my belts a little closer and make sure there are no problems with them as the sound is definitely that clunky diesel-engine-at-idle sound.
  • There's a few adjustments (bumpers, etc.) that can be changed to get the door to close more firmly/evenly. It's not a safety problem, just annoying. Dealer may need to drive your van on their favorite bumpy road in order to get the settings right. It took 2 visits before they totally squelched the door rattles on my Ody. It's been quiet now for over a year.
  • Purchased an '02 GG EX Ody two weeks ago and was really surprised by the noise of rattling doors during in-city driving. Will try the dealer, as suggested above, and hope they won't blow me off. Wonder if this is unique to power doors? Also wondering if others are hearing a thunk in the rear of the car as they complete a brake. It sounds like gas in the tank sloshing around - it is very loud. Finally, am shocked by lack of reception in the radio. Had heard others complaning about the sound system, which is lacking, but I'm talking about basic frequency reception of local stations which come in fine on my other car (a late model Honda). Overall we are very happy with the Ody but are disturbed by the clunks and thumps a car of this quality and cost is making...and am wondering about the radio. Have others had these experiences?
  • crkeehncrkeehn Posts: 513
    I don't think that it's a matter of a person maintaining their vehicle any more or less carefully. I think with certain makes that have built their reputation on quality, people tend to have heightened expectations and are more willing to voice their displeasure when something does go wrong.
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    I don't have any problems with receiving stations on my radio, and can't remember hearing anyone else complaining about reception. I would have the dealer check it out as maybe the antenna wire didn't get plugged in right at the factory, or could be defective antenna/wire.
  • jnash2jnash2 Posts: 31
    No radio reception problems here, As a matter of fact I get stations better than my 2000 GM radio. The thumping IS the gas sloshing around. It seems to happen with more than 1/2 tank. A common problem that I think every Ody owner has. Haven't heard of a solution yet. I love the way the dealers make sure the tank is low before they let you test drive. Sneaky.
  • I have had the same sort of thing with my 2000 lx. It is eating batteries. The Honda Battery went about 14,000 miles and its replacement has been on the battery charger twice now. Granted the interior dome lights were left on in both of the recent dead battery episodes, but not for more than a few hours the first time and only thirty minutes the last time. Can anyone identify this problem?
    Thanks
  • bryannbryann Posts: 54
    i had a problem with the brakes on a 2001 EX. it feels like the rotors are warped and i feel a vibration in the pedal and can hear a buzz in the cabin when i am braking at highway speed. they turned the rotors and that seemed to help for about 200 miles and then the same thing was back. they just replaced the front rotors and the problem reappears. it seems to get worst as time goes on, but the problem is still there none the less. anyone else have any problems with the brakes? thanks.
  • To all those that are having battery problems with their Honda's, here may be the culprit. The battery in your car is made by AC Delco also can be read as CHEAP. My Civic's battery lasted about a year and a half before needing to be replaced. Bought the largest cranking amp battery and have yet to be replaced since 1996. I do not know why Honda buys these batteries as I feel they are substandard to the Honda name...and mind you no dealer will stand behind the battery no matter what...nor will the manufacturer.

    Regarding the lights on the dash coming on, may have been a bad connection between wires and battery.

    Good luck

    Stelios
  • mschafermschafer Posts: 317
    It may be cheap, but it works well over here. I have 123,000 miles on mine in 2 yrs and 5 months; and it's still as strong as it was new.
  • auburn63auburn63 Posts: 1,162
    sometimes I wonder if I am just like sleep walking through the day and not catching some of these problems but then I think maybe I just keep seeing vans like yours. We have not had a single battery problem on an Odyssey except for 2 known rear passenger lights that were left on and found to be on once we jumped started the van.

    To every one else, please dont take this post the wrong way. I know that all products have problems and there are people with legit complaints in here. Other wise I wouldn't have a job..:)
  • dmathews3dmathews3 Posts: 1,739
    I have never had a problem with a Delco battery and many of them were 4 or more years old and I live in Michigan where it gets a good workout. Also only drive 2 1/2 miles one way to work so not good on the battery.
  • ponch49ponch49 Posts: 17
    I just replaced the original Delco battery in my wife's 94 Accord (145,000 miles). Yes, that one lasted over 7 years and I replaced it with another Delco. Hopefully the car will last as long as the new battery will. I haven't had any battery problems with my 99 Odyssey EX and don't anticipate any. From my experiences, Delco has been a solid performer.
  • bjc4bjc4 Posts: 6
    I have a 2001 Honda Odyssey. From almost the beginning we have had trouble with the left-side sliding door sticking. It has been very hard to open. We took it back once and of course it wouldn't stick that time. A second time, they sprayed something on it. Well now, with 37,000 miles on it, the outside handle has broken. We have taken it in and they claim it is our problem and will fix it if we pay for it. Has anyone else had any problems like this? Thanks for responding.
  • crkeehncrkeehn Posts: 513
    Bring in your receipts for all the times you brought the car in for the sticking door and ask to speak to the service manager. Don't be adversarial but point out to him how the sticking door problem was chronic and uncured during the warrantee period.
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