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2011 Infiniti G25

Karen@EdmundsKaren@Edmunds Posts: 5,024
edited August 2010 in Infiniti
The G25 is scheduled to begin arriving in dealerships this September. Talk about the G25 here!

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  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,897
    I was in getting a little exhaust work done on my QX4 this morning and was talking to the salesman about this car. He didn't have any info other than what has been widely published in press statements and such but said his regiona Infiniti rep was due in the dealership that afternoon with a G25 to show them and go over some details. He expected them to be in with about 3 weeks in some quantity.

    Specifically asked him about MPG but he knew nothing but was hoping to get some info this afternoon. Got his card and will email him to see if he got any details that I can share.

    If anyone has info on this car....please post.
  • I'm also interested in the MPG rating of the G25. To me it's a make or break thing given the sacrifice in power vs. the G37, and the likelihood that they'll start off much closer to MSRP than the deals available now on 2010 G37s. I did a calculation based on the Japanese Skyline 250GT mileage rating, and came up with ~24.4MPG combined. I don't claim this is precise, but it's realistic, similar to the 24MPG combined of cars like the 200HP 4-cyl VW CC and the 2.5L 5-cyl Volvo S40. Of course, this has the major assumption that the US version gets the same mileage as the Japanese one.

    Sure would like to see specifics soon, not to mention some indication that they're arriving at dealers.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,897
    I feel the same way. G37s are going for about 4-5k+ off MSRP. If G25s sell near MSRP where is the savings? If they starting discounting them down to say 28k then you are talking. You can't get Nav on the G25 either. With the 7 speed auto trans it better come in at even better mpg than you're estimate or it just won't appeal at that price point.

    They should have MSRP'd it about 2k less and with good mpg they could blow them out. I'm getting the impression that Infiniti is not trying to sell a lot of them, just enough to get new buyers into the Infiniti brand and then sell them up when they trade. Just a thought. I'm not nearly as excited about it after the saw the final MSRP numbers.
  • smarty666smarty666 Posts: 1,503
    Agree with you on the pricing. Infiniti has to be really careful not only what they charge but any incentives or what the finally OTD price is going to be.

    I'm more interested in the mpg the G25 is going to have. For such a power reduction between the G37 and G25, there better be more than just a +1mpg city/highway difference between the G37 and G25.

    I'm hoping it has something like 21mpg city/29mpg highway at the minimum. I'd love to see 22/30 mpg but not sure if it will be that good.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,897
    I saw somewhere that it is still premium fuel recommended and the Japan version, the Skyline gets a little more hp/torque than the published numbers that we are going to get. I also seem to recall that car getting around your wished for numbers but that's a distant memory and I'm not sure about it. If they tune it down a hair they may be able to pull 22/30 out of it or even 23/31.

    Since the car is supposed to be in dealerships within a couple of weeks it seems strange that no EPA numbers have been released.
  • dash5dash5 Posts: 417
    So premium fuel. Do we know if it's available in AWD? Or just RWD. RWD and Premium put it off my list I think sadly.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,897
    Yeah, AWD is the G25x. There's post a couple back that has a link to a dealer that has packages and prices on their site. I priced out a G25x with just one little option and it came to $34,995 MSRP including dest. chg. That's with no sunroof which is an additional $1,000 option. Little ridiculous really when the street price for a G37x with sunroof is less than $35k.

    The only thing that may put it off my list is the price. It should be about $3k less.
  • dash5dash5 Posts: 417
    Looking at it now, Engine is a 2.5L V6 with 218 HP and 187 Torque? Even at 30k what is the incentive over the Kia/Hyundai Turbo offerings? Granted the G is beautiful, and I suppose you'd also be getting AWD which is a nice bonus.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,897
    Well, at the price Infiniti is asking there isn't! However, if the price were, say, less than $30k for the G25 and it got 22/29 with all wheel drive it would be tempting. I think there is still a world of difference in the quality of material and workmanship in the Infiniti versus a Hyundai or Kia product which you can tell by just sitting in one.

    I'm even more interested in the Optima now that Infiniti has priced this new G25 so high.
  • smarty666smarty666 Posts: 1,503
    I don't know, how about better resale value, better quality, more tech/feature offerings, luxury vs non-luxury thing, nicer dealership experience, loaner vehicles, etc etc.

    Kia vs Infiniti is a very odd and wrong comparison in my opinion to say the least; they are not cross shop or compete with each other.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,897
    Agee with just about everything you say except for the possibility of some people cross shopping the G25 and the Optima. I see two people here that are looking at both. Probably not a common thing though I would have to agree. They are not really in the same class but I for one would look at both.
  • smarty666smarty666 Posts: 1,503
    I do have to admit one thing though, the new Optima design is most impressive

    Both Kia and Hyundai are on a roll for sure!
  • dash5dash5 Posts: 417
    I agree all those are strengths of the G25, but it really comes down to price. The top of the line, loaded V6 or Turbo midsize sedans routinely crack 30k. If you're in that neighborhood, you're not going to be peeking at the entry level near lux sexy sedan from Infiniti? Again that's assuming the G25 is reasonably priced in the (very) low 30's nicely equipped.

    For me, the big lure of the G25 would be higher quality interior and general high quality. I cant think of what tech the G would have over the Kia, that thing is loaded. I owned a G35 coupe and the dealer was a pain in the neck, but granted I just may have had a bad dealership. Resale value is certainly a factor, but I tend to keep my cars for a long time so it's lessened somewhat.

    I'm definitely not trying to bash the G25, I'm just saying if they want to sell them at 35k or more it's gonna be a really tough sell for me.
  • smarty666smarty666 Posts: 1,503
    Oh I agree about the price, Infiniti definitely has to keep this thing under 35k. You are right about the overlap in mainstream division mid-size and premium level vehicles and entry-lux vehicles b/c their prices over lap quite often and the way the economy is right now, people are car shopping by price/budget now more than ever.

    I've found over the years, if your only able to budget in that price range then you have to make a decision. If you need a comfort, lots of room, and versatile vehicle then your going to have to stay with the mainstream upper level vehicles. If you don't need those pre mentions things and want something that is smaller, less room, but more sporty with the prestige badge and luxury experience then you can go with the entry-lux level vehicles b/c most of the entry-level lux vehicles, ON AVG, are on the smaller end of size and room (ie G25, 3-Series, A4, C-Class, IS, TSX, Regal, etc) compared to the mid-size and premium level sedans and vehicles from the mainstream divisions. There are some exceptions to the rule of course.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,897
    I agree. The price for the G25 is just too high compared to what you get with the G37. As far as bells and whistles I think there are some that you still won't see on the Optima but then it looks there are a couple on the Optima that aren't offered on the Gs either. I think the Optima has side mirror blinkers, a one-touch 3 blink turn signal, heated rear seats, heated and cooled front seats, split fold-down rear seat, UVO(potentially). That's just off the top of my head. Those things to my knowledge aren't offered in the G. The G has two or three tech nuances that I don't believe are offered in the Optima so all in all not a big difference on the tech side.

    I have to say that I have dealt with the same Infiniti dealer for 8 years and they have been great although I haven't had to use them hardly at all except for routine maint. My '02 QX4 has 77k on it and I just had the very first actual repair work done within the last few weeks and that amounted to the equivalent of about 1 normal car payment. Since it's been paid off for 5 years I don't think you can get much better than that.
  • pavppavp Posts: 13
    edited September 2010
    According to the specs by KBB G25 seems to be smaller than G 37 check the following link

    http://www.kbb.com/new-cars/infiniti/g/2011/specifications-technical?id=353610

    The rear leg room seems to be really less than IS 250 :(
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,897
    Those KBB numbers are wrong. Check Edmunds.....the G37 and G25 are the same size. The KBB numbers are so far off. They have the weight as more than the AWD EX at over 4,000lbs.. If it was smaller and with a smaller engine you would think it would weigh less than the G37...not 400 lbs more.

    The car is the exactly the same but with smaller engine and a little less content.
  • smarty666smarty666 Posts: 1,503
    +1

    I don't know where kbb got those numbers but they are so wrong. The G25 is going to be the exact same size and bodystyle as the G37 and Infiniti has admitted that. That's about all we know though, except for the smaller engine and maybe some feature content changes.

    I'd love to know how even kbb got those wrong numbers considering Infiniti has still not released any super detailed specifications for the G25 as of yet.
  • m6userm6user Posts: 2,897
    They have released the engine hp/torque and some package content. No mpg or dimensions that I know of though but I think it's pretty obvious it's the same car. They wouldn't develop a whole new size car and still call it a G. If you were going to do that they would call it something else and make a big splash IMO. It's the same concept as the FX35 and FX50. Same vehicle, different engine.

    I kind of wish they would come with a EX25. I like the EX35 AWD which I consider just a G hatchback with a little higher ride. It just sucks gas too much and I don't need 300hp. My kids are grown and I very rarely carry anyone in the back seat so that being a little cramped doesn't bother me at all. That's about the only thing everybody complains about is the rear legroom which I don't care about.

    I don't think that the G25 is going to sell at the MSRP they have come out with. Look at the prices paid forums, you can get a G37 cheaper than the MSRP on this thing are. You'd have to really, really want an Infinit and to save some money on gas to consider this unless heavily discounted.
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