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Honda Odyssey vs Dodge/Chrysler minivans



  • crkeehncrkeehn Posts: 513
    easy to get water in GC, hard to get water out
  • andrewtran71andrewtran71 Posts: 840
    I can't seem to build & price a T&C with a NAV on the web.
    Can you?
  • tomtomtomtomtomtom Posts: 491
    ....but I have asked the parts department and the system costs $2000 labor included.
  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    The Odyssey EX-NAV is reasonably priced, has a very user-friendly NAV, and according to Consumer Reports is much more reliable and holds resale value far better than the Dodge/Chrysler minivans.
        Since one son has a well equipped 2002 Dodge Grand Caravan Sport and another one has a 2001 Odyssey EX, I have been able to make a direct comparison.
        The Odyssey has better seating arrangement with double the cargo space but the Grand Caravan Sport is quieter and has many more nice features not on the Odyssey EX. I imagine the 2001 Ody EX now has a greater resale value now than the newer 2002 GC Sport and will probably go longer before major repairs are needed than will the GC Sport.
        However, if money is no concern, the Dodge/Chrysler minivans do offer the most luxury.
  • lfikelfike Posts: 38
    I don't know about you guys, but I dropping my AAA coverage asap! I mean they have a few good picks there with the Acura and Lexus but gimme a break on the others. Consumer reports would back me on this one!

    Chrysler for the leading mini van?!?!?!?!?!???
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,921
    You should take another look at one :-)

    Steve, Host
  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    We all have our prejudices including Consumer Reports, AAA, etc.
        A closer reading indicates AAA did not consider reliability and resale as their most heavily weighted criteria as does CR.
        Notice their emphasis on items such as "over the road performance, comfort, convenience, workmanship and overall value."
        Maybe AAA considers the HUGE discounts DC has been giving buyers of new Grand Caravans which would make them cost far less than the Odyssey.
        I have compared since one son has a 2001 Ody EX and another has a 2002 Grand Caravan Sport. The Grand Caravan Sport is quieter, smoother riding and has more nice features than does the Ody EX BUT the Ody EX has more flexible seating and double the cargo space behind the 3rd row seating + the 3rd row folds into the floor which is convenient if large items are to be hauled.
  • "Chrysler for the leading mini van?!?!?!?!?!???"

    The whole AAA organization exists for people whose cars are likely to breakdown. Of course they would pick Chrylser. If everyone drove Honda's and Toyotas' there would be no need for an AAA.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,921
    I always thought AAA existed solely to lobby to pave the entire countryside....

    Steve, Host
  • andrewtran71andrewtran71 Posts: 840
    I would never buy a DC van in a million years even if it had factory NAV, which apparently it does NOT since the dealer has to install the NAV.
    Besides, the looks of the T&C inside and outside just looks "slightly ugly" as jsmath5 would put it:-)
  • crkeehncrkeehn Posts: 513
    Apparently the person that wrote is interested in the DC van. They studied and considered that the DC van offered what they were interested in.

    Andrew, apparently you had the opposite feeling. That doesn't make them wrong or you totally right.
  • tomtomtomtomtomtom Posts: 491
    if you are not going to buy DC van in a million years why would you care if they offer a NAV or not. I don't care if Ponitac has one because I will not buy one and certainly won't go to Pontiac's website to see they have one.

    By the way, here is the reason why (I think) DC didn't install the Nav from the factory. Unlike
    most Nav that need a big screen on the center console to operate, the one from DC built within the radio. Since a customized center console is not needed in DC case you can always add one in the future.
  • tomtomtomtomtomtom Posts: 491
    Since my DC van's center console isn't customized I have added a Pioneer Nav and DVD player into the center console. Now I can watch DVD in front while the car is moving. I know it is not safe ;-) but can your Nav equipped Ody do that?
  • andrewtran71andrewtran71 Posts: 840
    I like NAV no matter who has them--DC, Nissan, Honda, Toyota, Buick, etc.
    There are pros & cons with aftermarket NAV, just like all aftermarket products.
    I guess as long as the dealer can install them and give you the same bumper to bumper warranty, it's alright.
    But the most important reason for me is the looks. A big screen NAV on the center console looks great. With the aftermarket, the screen is either small or it is motorized to retract or "disappear" into the unit when it is turned off. And the way it looks just doesn't look quite as good as a permanent NAV screen on the console.
    Of course with your aftermarket, you could install it in your future vehecile and I cannot do that on my Ody.
    But how long does it take for the screen to open up and get started?
    Well, NAV is great, but how does the NAV look on the dealer installed van? Is it a motorized one like your Pioneer?
  • andrewtran71andrewtran71 Posts: 840
    I couldn't care less to watch dvd while the car is moving. I have dvd/vcr/tv for the rear entertainment on a 7" widescreen.
    All I care about while driving is the NAV and the cool looking factory NAV screen.
    But I think your Pioneer aftermarket NAV is just as good as any NAV. Is it voice activated?
  • andrewtran71andrewtran71 Posts: 840
    I guess I'm more used to the Japanese Lexus and Acura looks. Anything else, including the German cars like Mercedes and BMW or "American" cars, just does not look good to me.
    I grew up with my dad and his "American" car plus a million repairs. I finally got him switched to Toyota and now he is a Toyota person forever.
    So based on countless repair experiences, I would never ever buy another "American" car make.
    But that's just me.
    Also, the Ody is the best looking minivan :-)
  • tomtomtomtomtomtom Posts: 491
    It takes 10 seconds for the 7" screen to come out and start playing and yes it is voice activated. The one from DC has the screen on the center of the radio.
  • steelengsteeleng Posts: 71
    I think maybe Andrewtran should be driving a giant Nav system on wheels (with leather seating of course) :). I personally do not care much for Nav systems in vehicles. The $2000 cost is something I just cannot justify when I can easily get by with my $15 atlas for the 2 or 3 times a year that I actually need it (I plan my route ahead of time so that I don't have to look at it while driving). I also do not like the look of a big touch screen in the middle of my dash. Finally, I find them to be a distraction like cell phones. There is nothing like the experience I had riding with my boss in his LS430 with him holding a cell phone to his ear with one hand and poking the Nav screen with his other hand. Luckily we were on a five lane stretch of freeway because that left two lanes for the rest of the drivers to use. YMMV
  • andrewtran71andrewtran71 Posts: 840
    I don't get it. So how big is the screen?
    So is the NAV screen installed on the dash permanently?
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