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Buick Rainier, Chevy TrailBlazer, GMC Envoy



  • bryancosbryancos Posts: 282
    The only catback plans I've seen are from Gibson Performance -- no part numbers announced yet:


    2002 4.2L,I-6 2/4WD 4 DR TBA TBA


    2002 4.2L,I-6 2/4WD 4 DR TBA TBA

    Talk to your local exhaust shop tho.. they might be able to build a custom setup... Anyone do this yet?
  • Is there a way to not include a radio preference in personalized settings? It is kind of annoying to have the stations change.
  • kimodokimodo Posts: 44
    Thanks for the heads up on letting the fuel get too low. Funny thing is, I used to have a mazda as well, and the light would always go on before I filled her up. Thing was, it was supposed to have a capacity of 11 gallons, but there were times when I filled it with +13 gallons. That was why I was intrigued by the light coming on at 15 and a half galons for the TB. that just seems quite early for me. Also one question for the LS owners who didn't get keyless entry. Anyway to install it yourself, or has anyonei nstalled it themselves, and what's needed. Thanks in advance.
  • allenrallenr Posts: 83
    I would drive it easy for the first 200-300 miles mainly to seat the brake well. I had a friend tell me how he brakes-in his cars in it made so much sense I've used on all my new cars with very good results.

    To break-in a new motor it need periods of moderate loading and periods of costing. The theory being, loading the motor forces the bearing surfaces to wear against each other and the period of coasting let's the oil back in to flush out any debris. I know a lot of people that buy new cars and start out on a long trip? This would tend to go against the moderate load and costing cycle. I know lots of people who don't do this and some of them have had problems. I never seem to have a problem getting 100,000 miles or more out of an engine. 217,000 in one case on an S-10 Blazer 2.8 J
    I've broke in my last 6 engines this way and (nock on wood) never and a single engine problem.

  • dyfinedyfine Posts: 11
    I also noticed the rusty parts you referred to. I noticed them when I was looking under the hood at the engine - the rusty parts were close to the ground. This is my first brand new car, so I'm not sure, but it doesn't seem like this should be. Any thoughts?
  • pepper50pepper50 Posts: 195
    I'm close to finalizing a deal with a salesman for a new Envoy. I think I'll see if he'll throw in some mudflaps and a rear cargo mat. But I've never seen the GM flaps or rear cargo mat. Is the rear cargo mat carpeted and matches the rear carpet, or is it a vinyl mat? And does it have a raised lip around it or not? As for the dealer-installed mudflaps are these equivalent to the aftermarket ones? I guess if I talk him into including them I shouldn't be so picky; but have never seen them. Thanks.
  • cmack4cmack4 Posts: 302
    the mudflaps have a 3d shape to them with the appropriate logo for the vehicle and if the mat is like the bravada's, it will be carpeted and match the interior carpeting and have an anti-skid backing on it. Mine came with the Convenience and Luxury Package... not sure if it comes with the SLT package or not for the Envoy. Anyone actually come across a dealer accessory book yet for the triplets?
  • Bryancos,
    I found your post, Num 3291, for the running boards. Is this part number, 12497885, for the black 'factory' boards are they the bright aluminum colored ones?
  • lurker01lurker01 Posts: 103
    I thought someone mentioned a TSB for the wandering mirrors problem. I am taking mine in this week to have that fixed and would like to bring the info with me. I searched the TSB list online and could not find it. Could you direct me to where you saw it?

    I also have the leaky rear window seal. Has anyone else out there had this fixed? What was the cure?


  • kimodokimodo Posts: 44
    glad that I'm not the only who noticed it, but not glad that that rust is there. Been under my accord and mazda to do iol changes and I can't recall noticing that there was rust like that there. Another thing that I noticed is that the key hole for the glove compartment looked like it was used. In that the paint was worn. This is a barnd spanking new car going on its fourth month, and I hardly ever use the glove compartment, and never even once locked it with the key.

    Those are the same running boards I ordered from gmpartsdirect. They are the black factory ones. Installed them myself this last weekend. Doable by yourself, but it would have been much quicker if I had help. Bolt in the middle of the running boards first, but not all the way, then work on the outside ones. Also, when working on that, if you are in fact doing it yourself, which you should (Save some dough), check to see if you notice rusted parts under there like I did. Such things as the axle rod, and screws and such. Have fun and good luck.
  • Any complaints about the front passenger seat on long trips? I got into an Envoy at an auto show and find out that the floor is not totally flat, and the leg room is slightly angled outwards.
  • vplazavplaza Posts: 47
    I've been quiet about the paint problem because there had not been much movement, but here is the latest.

    Spoke to both my BBB Online processor and the GM Business Relations specialist handling the case on the GM side. (I guess they take BBB complaints seriosly at GM.)

    According to the GM guy, GM will fabricate a "prototype" gasket/moulding that they will install in our vehicle. They expect to have it at the dealership in 10 to 30 days. If that fixes the problem, then I'm dropping the claim.

    Then I can move on and have them fix the wandering mirrors (yep, I've got them too, which is quite annoying) and a situation where it REALLY difficult to get the car out of park. It seems that when it happens, you have to keep pressing on the brake pedal just the right way to release the shifter from park. Has that happened to anyone yet?

    More updates when I have them.
  • vplazavplaza Posts: 47

    I don't normally sit in that seat since when we go on trips, I drive, but I know that my wife has no complaints about the legroom. We've been on one long trip in the vehicle and quite a few roundtrips to her folks (110 miles one way) and she's never said that the legroom caused her grief.

    Obviously, it depends on the person sitting there, but in our case, it isn't a problem.
  • bryancosbryancos Posts: 282
    That was a repost of info provided by one of the others here. Guys, can you comment?
  • tlaurotlauro Posts: 504
    I posted a while back about the dealer replacing my mirrors.

    It's not a TSB that I'm aware of, but there is a fix and two special controllers that are needed.

    I'll search the board for my post and report back.

  • I had the mirror problem and took it to the dealership. They replaced the mirrors with with new ones and the problem went away.
  • I have the same problem with the drivers seat. I am tall, 6'3", and on long trips my foot is killing me. No matter what I do, I can't get it comfortable. I think it has actually started to cause me to get shooting pains in my calf.

    I had a 96 Blazer, and the difference between that and the Trailblazer is the positioning of the gas and brake pedals. The pedals on the Trailblazer are a lot closer to the seat. It causes my foot to be at an angle to the peddles. Plus, with the sloping of the floor, it takes a lot of muscle to keep it in that uncomfortable position.

    Anybody else have the same problems?
  • Kimodo,
    THanks for the info. I ordered the boards and I'll post how the installation went. I will also check for the rust.
    Thanks for your help.
  • Does anyone have an idea where I can purchase
    White Face Gauges for my Envoy? I've only
    seen the one from msg.#3444 regarding the
    "Envoy Max" vehicle. Also, does anyone know
    who makes a speed grille or billet grille for
    the Envoy? Thanks for the help.
  • allenrallenr Posts: 83
    I too seem to be having a problem with the drivers seat. My left knee has started to hurt when I drive my Bravada? No matter how I change the seat it still strains my knee. I might have hurt it some were else and the Bravada position just strains it? it didn't start right away, the first 8 months of driving I had no problem.

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