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2008 T&C stalling without reason

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  • mswann1mswann1 Posts: 3
    For several months I have been dealing with a sporadic problem (electrical??) with my Chrysler Town & Country Van. On several occasions after I started the engine it immediately cut off. The first time I had the battery checked and replaced. For a number of weeks there was no problem so I believed that the problem was fixed. Then it happened again. I cranked the car repeatedly but each time it cut off before I even had the opportunity to get my foot to the gas pedal. I had the car towed to a shop where it cranked just fine and no one could determine the problem.
    The 4th time it happened someone replaced the alternator. For the last 6 or 7 months the car has been running without incident until yesterday. It stranded me again. I had it towed to a shop. I am hoping someone might know what the problem might be before I spend more money fixing the wrong thing.
  • rgbishoprgbishop Posts: 1
    I have read alittle about this with others having somewhat similar problems. I have a 1997 town and country minivan. It seems to run fine for sometime like maybe even 50-150 miles, then all of a sudden it will lose power and die. It will not gain power again, unless you let it set for a few hours.

    thanks for your reply Russ
  • I have been having the same problem for some time and the Chrysler service garage cannot find the problem and claims to have not encountered it before. My 1999 T&C will start fine, run for a couple seconds, and just shut down. Typically, if it sits for some period of time it will eventually start. It never seems to happen when sitting for long periods of time (like overnight), more typical to occur when shut down for brief periods (20 - 30 minutes). Last fall the problem occurred and after several starts, two second runs, and shutdowns, the engine completely died. I had to be towed to the dealer where ignition parts were replaced including a BCM modul for a cost of over $1000. I thought the problem solved for a couple months and then it started doing it again. You would think the brilliant engineers at Chrysler would have enough smarts to figure this out. They wonder why they are in financial trouble - Chrysler may as well advertise for Toyota and Honda - they are virtually pushing their customers out the door and into the arms of the foreign manufacturers.
  • I have a 97 t&c w/ 150K miles...same symptoms as everyone else...no one can id a prob. CI light is on indicating bad cam and crank shaft pos. sensor. They were replaced and it ran beautifully for 1 week...then back to the same probs. hard to start...erratic running while driving, stalling (usually on left turns). I've found that it's worse on a near empty fuel tank. The dealer said it was a tranny prob....said it need a $2500 overhaul but that just doesn't add up. something IS damaging the sensors though. I'd love it if someone could come up with something on this. It's been a great van up til about 6 months ago.
  • mdmoran2mdmoran2 Posts: 2
    You will not believe this, but I had the starting problem for the better part of 2 years, starts sometimes, sometimes not. Into the Chrysler shop for 3 weeks over that period. Finally, an independent shop said I needed a new battery (apparently a weak battery was causing all the other problems). I did not believe it but put in the battery and it has run great for the last 2 months. Who would have known.
  • mswann1mswann1 Posts: 3
    I hope your problem is fixed, but just so you know I replaced my battery the very first time that I had this problem. It worked fine for 4 or 5 months and then I encountered more of the same.

    I had the Chrysler dealer examine my car last week. It checks out fine. But the problem has already reoccurred.

    Knocking on the guage pod allowed me to get it started just the other day when i had it do the same mess again. The technician said that starting the car more than 4 times unsuccessfully will cause the computer to lock you out, and the car will not start for 24 hours. My son has been talking to technicians and people with this problem on other forums. He says its something to do with the guage pod and alarm system. Even t&c/caravans without alarms or keyless entry have some sort of built in alarm and immobilizer. Its not the BCM or PCM its something that is talking to the BCM and PCM.
  • I have a 1999 T&C that stalls when cold. I changed the coolant temperature sensor. I let it sits for a few hours and when out at night when it was cold. I started it up. The idle was higher and did not stall any longer.
    I tried hard stops and quick acceleration. It did not stall. The change of the sensor seemed to help with my problem. I thought I would share what I found.
  • hoff316hoff316 Posts: 1
    Had the exact problem here today with my 98 Chrysler Town & Country LXI. I have some research and I beleive it is security related. I was using the Valet Key when this occurred. I think it may not be turning the ignition correctly. Once I tried to start and it died three times, it would no longer crank and there were no lights on the dash board. I obtained the original key and it still would not start. Then I disconnected the battery and left it disconnected for three hours. After that I reconnected and it fired right up and started as normal. The security system locked out the ignition and the way I cleared it was to disconnect the battery. Think of it like a computer reboot, you have to cut all power to clear the memory. This has happened before and it may be ignition switch related, but make sure you are using a good key not a copy or the Valet key. Hope this helps. It was not a bad battery.
  • keschulerkeschuler Posts: 1
    I've had similar issues. Our Town and Country starts on the 3rd try almost 100% of the time. We just replaced the battery (no help) and are using a different gas station (were using Exxon almost exclusively). We have 2 different keys that we use as well with no difference... Haven't tried the batter "reboot" at least not for 3 hours. Any other ideas/suggestions?
  • zookeyzookey Posts: 2
    i have been working on a 2002 town and country for a friend.
    this van runs fine most of the time. it has about 70,000 miles on it at this time. the problem is that out of the blue it will not start. wait a little while and it starts right up but the check engine light is on. i pulled the codes one time and got 2 codes for ignition circuit 1 and 2 failure. reset the light and it was fine for a few days and themn it did it again only this time it had 3 codes. ignition coil 3 failure was also listed. i replaced the coil pack and it was fine for 3 days and then bam. wont start the first 2 codes are back. does anyone have any idea what this might be. i am hoping it is not the ecm but that is a possibility. any help would be appreciated
  • mismailimismaili Posts: 16
    To everyone with this type of starting problem, not starting, banging on the dash, sometimes works, fine for a few months and then reappearing. DONT REPLACE YOUR BATTERY, STARTER, BCM OR PCM.Behind your instrumentation panel the the circuit board and the harness attached to it is the problem. After starting and 1 to 3 seconds goes dead, the third or fourth attempt the immobilizer kicks in and you have to let it sit for hours or 24hours. then it just starts as if nothings wrong. I have done all of the above and 1000 dollars at the dealer it still is the same ffffing issue.
  • mismailimismaili Posts: 16
    Does anyone know what the 4 flashing buttons mean? the Top two buttons Rear wiper buttons and the AC-(snowflake) and to the left of the AC button ( not sure what thats called )Is it an error code?
  • rchiirchii Posts: 7
    I would like to know if this solved your problem? I am experiencing the same problem on our '98 T & C van. Runs absolutely fine. But once in a while, door locks act up. When unlocked with key, engine will not stay running, shuts down 3 times then totally disables. No cranking at all. All lights, radio, etc. work fine. If let sit for most of a day, it will start. Also, sometimes while driving the dash goes 'out', Odometer, trans indicator, gauges, speedo, etc and the ABS and security lights come on and stay on. Then next time van is started they work again, but service engine light is on. After driving for a short while, maybe 15 miles or half hour, the service engine clears. Only code I ever get is Aux input/output problem. ???? I have begun to think the BCM was bad. But your posting is making me rethink that. I guess I could pull the dash apart, but what am I looking for? Bad connections, cracked circuit board. Did the problem get resolved on yours? I have to fix this myself, so any help would be great. My email address: rchii@hotmail.com
  • mismailimismaili Posts: 16
    Hey,

    Got your posting and Im have forwarded you an email with
    folks with similiar issues who have communicated their results to me. Ive yet to replace my board, but plan to sometime within the next 6 months. My wife has a new used car to drive, so I dont have a real necessity to do so right now. But a good friend/associate of mine, who does all of my vehicle maintance, works for my local chrysler dealer, he's one of their top mechanics and has also confirmed my issue with one of thier vans as well. Changed the circuit board and fixed the problem.

    But if you plan on spending the money, for the BCM,PCM,Battery,starter....etc, do the board first, it's about 420 for the board, plus the labor, or if you can do it yourself, even better. Please, advise how you make out.

    Miz
  • rchiirchii Posts: 7
    I can not believe it... The van just
    acted up' again for my wife. This time I told her that "it sounds odd, but try hitting the dash".. She said she had the key in the on, but not crankng position. When she hit the dash some of the lights blinked, then she hit it again and different ones blinked, on the third hit she said they all blinked and she then tried to start the van. Tah-Dah, the van fired right up. I am now convinced that it is a dash problem. I was just about the sink 1000 plus dollars into a set of computers for it. I have been checking around for an instrument panel, and might get lucky, possibly a $100.00 part. Just have to find out what years, models fit/match. Or I have a little electronics background, may be able to repair the board myself. I will post what I find wrong with the circuit board when I take it apart. This forum has been a lifesaver. Thanks to all...
  • mismailimismaili Posts: 16
    Just an fyi, hitting the dash works most of the time but every now and then it wont.

    Good luck,
  • Ok here we go...I have a 1998 Dodge Caravan Sport, 99000 miles. I have a intermittent starting problem with the van. Every now and then it will start about three times for about 2 sec. each and then not start at all. Lights work on the dash (ABS, temp, etc.) but no gauges. After several hours it will finally start. I have read messages about it timing out due to excessive failures to start, and if I beat on the dash it will start. Well, after reading these messages I tried this technique and it started. Ok..what is my problem? Is it the dash circuit board? I am at whits end! This has been reoccurring for the past two years and every shop and dealership has not been able to help. As they say..if it ain't broke, they can't fix it. And by the time I get it towed to a shop,,,it ain't broke. So,,,whoever can direct me, it would greatly be appreciated.
  • rchiirchii Posts: 7
    I have been struggling with this same problem for a few months now. Hitting the dash has been working. I plan to take it apart this coming weekend. I will post what I find wrong and what I do to fix it. I have been reading that this seems to be a common problem with Chrsyler vehicles in the '97 ~ 2000 year range. Especially the Vans, Sebrings and cloud cars. Some of the info I have gathered indicated a cold solder joint on the circuit board, which would be a relatively easy fix. Some info points at a bad or cracked circuit board. Which I would have a harder time believing, circuits boards do not generally crack unless they are stressed, twisted, bent,etc. Bob H.
  • asetachasetach Posts: 1
    Hi, I have 97 ply van starts and stalls all the same problems everyone is having... I wonder if we can rule out the dash circuit board (inst. circuit board), I have the dash out and van starts and run OK. I have now taken the BCM and circuit board out and I will clean all the connections that plug into it. Does anyone have thoughts about using dielect lube on connections? What is best.
  • kayode65kayode65 Posts: 8
    I am just curious to know what brand of spark plugs and wire set guys are using on their T&C's. Mopar from Chrysler is running at $11 each and wires are $60. I understand that Champion make the Mopar parts (not verified).

    Bosch plugs and wires are cheaper from Autozone. has anyone had any experience of these, or other brands. My van is now on 82000 miles and I feel its time for a tune up.

    Any info is well appreciated.
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